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SINGAPORE/HONG KONG (Reuters) - Singapore state investor Temasek Holdings Pvt Ltd is seeking to sell its $3.1 billion (1.8 billion pounds) stake in Thai telecom company Shin Corp, according to people familiar with the matter, and has approached its SingTel unit as a possible buyer.

Temasek, which owns 41.6 percent of Shin Corp through a subsidiary, held talks with Singapore Telecommunications Co, as SingTel is formally known, late last year, said the people, who declined to be identified as the information is not public. Those discussions have since stalled amid political tensions in Thailand, they said.

The move by Temasek, which oversees $170 billion in assets, is in line with the state investor's plans to consolidate portfolio companies in industry groupings. This would be its first move toward bringing its telecoms assets under one roof, analysts said, potentially creating a regional giant.

The Temasek stake in Shin Corp, founded by former Thailand prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, is worth $3.1 billion by current market value.

Shin Corp's shares now trade more than 50 percent above the price paid in 2006 by a Temasek-led consortium, that included Chinese-Thai businessman Surin Upatkoon, when it bought 96 percent of the Thai firm for a total of $3.8 billion.

"At a fair price such a deal would make sense for SingTel," Chris Lane, senior analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein in Hong Kong who covers Asia-Pacific telecommunications. SingTel is 52 percent-owned by Temasek.

Shin Corp owns 40.5 percent of Thailand's biggest mobile telecoms company, Advanced Info Service Plc. SingTel already has a 23 percent stake in AIS: Adding the Shin Corp stake would cement its position in a bigger market and offset sluggish growth in mature economies where it's also present, like Australia.

"SingTel executives are involved in the day-to-day operations of the company," said Bernstein analyst Lane. "Buying the stake from Temasek avoids the possibility of another 'telco' securing a significant interest in AIS."

Temasek's telecoms strategy mirrors that it has tried to deploy in other business segments - with varying degrees of success.

Last year its financial services portfolio company DBS Group Holdings Ltd made a bid for Bank Danamon Indonesia Tbk, but it failed to get approval from Indonesian regulator. The future of its 18 percent stake in London-based bank Standard Chartered PLC is a constant source of speculation for bankers, who have previously suggested merging Standard Chartered with DBS.

POLITICAL STALEMATE

The slowdown in Shin Corp deal talks makes it the second potential transaction in Thailand to be put on the back burner due to political stalemate. ING Groep's planned sale of a 31 percent stake in TMB Bank Pcl has also hit roadblocks, Reuters previously reported.

Shin Corp occupies a position of symbolic importance in Thailand. Along with Thai investors, Temasek and Surin Upatkoon bought the 96 percent Shin Corp holding in 2006 through a vehicle known as Cedar Holdings Ltd. While Cedar has since sold most of its ownership, Temasek remains a Shin Corp shareholder through a subsidiary called Aspen.

The change in its ownership triggered accusations of insider trading and tax evasion as the family of then Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and others involved received $1.9 billion tax-free.

Thaksin insisted at the time that the sale satisfied all the rules in a country where share sales conducted through the stock market are not taxed. Protests in Bangkok followed, ultimately leading to a coup that ousted Thaksin.

Thailand is one of 25 countries in which SingTel operates, with more than 500 million subscribers in total and more than three-quarters of its core earnings coming from outside Singapore. The company had a cash flow of S$2.5 billion at the end of December.

But SingTel has been seeking to overhaul a portfolio of telecoms investments that include stakes in Australia's Optus, India's Bharti Airtel Ltd, Globe Telecom Inc in the Philippines and Indonesia's PT Telkomsel. Last year, it unsuccessfully tried to sell the Australian satellite business.

A spokesman for Temasek Holdings declined to comment on the talks, but added, "We are a long term investor in Asia including in ASEAN."

A Shin Corp official in Bangkok declined to comment, while a SingTel spokeswoman also declined comment.

SingTel shares fell 0.6 percent on Tuesday, while the benchmark Strait Times index was steady by mid-morning. Shin Corp shares were down 2.3 percent, while the Bangkok index was 1.2 percent lower.

http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-temasek-seeks-sell-3-053754092.html
 

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Let's put it this way...

Thaksin Shinawatra didn't just come to Singapore for bak kut teh. :wink:


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freedalas

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Not so much as left to right pocket but father's pocket to son's pocket or should I say mother's pocket to daughter's pocket since chiefs of both organisations are females.
 

halsey02

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Not so much as left to right pocket but father's pocket to son's pocket or should I say mother's pocket to daughter's pocket since chiefs of both organisations are females.

Same 'body', wearing clothes, with many, many pockets, to confused those who are watching & the 60%, who are always befuddled, so they think..it is different. The best part is, the 'body' is still alive & kicking....:biggrin:
 
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temasek wil ofcos make a huge profit in selling 2 sing-n-tel ...

wa! ... dotter-in-law is such a clever investor! ... much betta dan ah warren buffet ...
 

halsey02

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temasek wil ofcos make a huge profit in selling 2 sing-n-tel ...

wa! ... dotter-in-law is such a clever investor! ... much betta dan ah warren buffet ...

They so clever...like merging POSB with DBS...SAM TENG....
 

freedalas

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They so clever...like merging POSB with DBS...SAM TENG....

Not really bro. POSB was then a statutory board under Ministry of Finance while DBS was a commercial bank. The 2 organisations were not really in the same family. In this case, Temasek is the holding company of Singtel. So it's like a father selling his shares to his son or as I said earlier, a mother selling her shares to her daughter.
 

halsey02

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Not really bro. POSB was then a statutory board under Ministry of Finance while DBS was a commercial bank. The 2 organisations were not really in the same family. In this case, Temasek is the holding company of Singtel. So it's like a father selling his shares to his son or as I said earlier, a mother selling her shares to her daughter.

Please lah!...POSB was a STAUTORY BOARD...you gotta be kidding!!...POSB held a SAVINGS BANK LICENCE....you go check the old ABS or MAS reports...every on Jan 1, whom they paid licence to...you will know. POSB was placing their surplus funds on LMM...Stat Board? in that case..CPF, HDB etc..could place funds in LMM too...POSB have to transfer their surplus funds to Min Fin....

All of them, are like the toe bone, that is connected to the...then to the hip bone..that is connected to....so are like the pockets...in one, out three others in different parts of the 'body'...
 

laksaboy

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Left pocket to right pocket song.

You put your left hand in,
You put your left hand out;
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!
 

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Same 'body', wearing clothes, with many, many pockets, to confused those who are watching & the 60%, who are always befuddled, so they think..it is different. The best part is, the 'body' is still alive & kicking....:biggrin:

That fucking body about to be a rotting corpse in coming days or weeks

THEN WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND SING AND DANCE ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS

FOLLOWED BY COLLABORATORS DANCING UNDER THE LAMP POSTS
 

freedalas

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Please lah!...POSB was a STAUTORY BOARD...you gotta be kidding!!...POSB held a SAVINGS BANK LICENCE....you go check the old ABS or MAS reports...every on Jan 1, whom they paid licence to...you will know. POSB was placing their surplus funds on LMM...Stat Board? in that case..CPF, HDB etc..could place funds in LMM too...POSB have to transfer their surplus funds to Min Fin....

All of them, are like the toe bone, that is connected to the...then to the hip bone..that is connected to....so are like the pockets...in one, out three others in different parts of the 'body'...

No offence bro, but POSB was indeed a statutory board before it merged with DBS.
 

freedalas

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Please lah!...POSB was a STAUTORY BOARD...you gotta be kidding!!...POSB held a SAVINGS BANK LICENCE....you go check the old ABS or MAS reports...every on Jan 1, whom they paid licence to...you will know. POSB was placing their surplus funds on LMM...Stat Board? in that case..CPF, HDB etc..could place funds in LMM too...POSB have to transfer their surplus funds to Min Fin....

All of them, are like the toe bone, that is connected to the...then to the hip bone..that is connected to....so are like the pockets...in one, out three others in different parts of the 'body'...

Hi bro, here is the historical info of POSB:

n 1972, the Post Office Savings Bank, or commonly referred as the POSB or POSBank by then, was made a statutory board under the Ministry of Communications. Prior to the consolidation, the Post Office Savings Bank Act of 1971 was passed to govern the structure and operational efficiency of the bank. In 1974, POSBank was transferred to become part of the Ministry of Finance; Credit POSB Pte Ltd was established in the same year to provide custom-tailored loans relating to HDB housing ownership.

By 1976, POSBank had one million depositors, while deposits crossed the S$1 billion mark. In 1980, it introduced the Passcard, and set-up the Principal Branch. In 1981, its first Cash-On-Line ATM opened at the Newton Branch. In 1983, its headquarters were shifted to the new 8-storey complex, the POSBank Centre at Bras Basah Road. In 1984, the current account facility was introduced, and by 1986, deposits crossed the S$10 billion mark.

The Post Office Savings Bank was renamed as POSBank in March 1990. It was subsequently fully acquired by DBS Bank on 16 November 1998 for S$1.6 billion; at the same time, ceased to exist as a statutory board under the Ministry of Finance. POSBank still operates one of the highest number of bank branches in Singapore, especially in the suburban neighbourhoods, and operates the highest number of ATM outlets throughout Singapore. The integration of both banks allowed customers of either bank to share the facilities; DBS Bank depositors may use the Cash Deposit Machine installed islandwide in POSBank branches and vice-versa.
 

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Hi bro, here is the historical info of POSB:

n 1972, the Post Office Savings Bank, or commonly referred as the POSB or POSBank by then, was made a statutory board under the Ministry of Communications. Prior to the consolidation, the Post Office Savings Bank Act of 1971 was passed to govern the structure and operational efficiency of the bank. In 1974, POSBank was transferred to become part of the Ministry of Finance; Credit POSB Pte Ltd was established in the same year to provide custom-tailored loans relating to HDB housing ownership.

By 1976, POSBank had one million depositors, while deposits crossed the S$1 billion mark. In 1980, it introduced the Passcard, and set-up the Principal Branch. In 1981, its first Cash-On-Line ATM opened at the Newton Branch. In 1983, its headquarters were shifted to the new 8-storey complex, the POSBank Centre at Bras Basah Road. In 1984, the current account facility was introduced, and by 1986, deposits crossed the S$10 billion mark.

The Post Office Savings Bank was renamed as POSBank in March 1990. It was subsequently fully acquired by DBS Bank on 16 November 1998 for S$1.6 billion; at the same time, ceased to exist as a statutory board under the Ministry of Finance. POSBank still operates one of the highest number of bank branches in Singapore, especially in the suburban neighbourhoods, and operates the highest number of ATM outlets throughout Singapore. The integration of both banks allowed customers of either bank to share the facilities; DBS Bank depositors may use the Cash Deposit Machine installed islandwide in POSBank branches and vice-versa.

Interesting indeed....thanks for the info...how could a statutory board be accepting deposits or giving out loans, like a bank. I was in Local Money market for a while...I know POSB place funds in LMM...all the time, I thought they held a Savings Bank Licence....anyway, it is still a 'toe bone' connected to the...whatever thing...they can do it....YOU CAN NOT!.

one pocket in, another pocket out..same shirt, on the same 'body'...righto!?:rolleyes:
 

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Interesting indeed....thanks for the info...how could a statutory board be accepting deposits or giving out loans, like a bank. I was in Local Money market for a while...I know POSB place funds in LMM...all the time, I thought they held a Savings Bank Licence....anyway, it is still a 'toe bone' connected to the...whatever thing...they can do it....YOU CAN NOT!.

one pocket in, another pocket out..same shirt, on the same 'body'...righto!?:rolleyes:


Agree. Because ultimately Temasek (that owns DBS) is still under MOF 's watch though not as directly as POSB. You're still right.
 
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