Leader Board - Punggol East By Elections

[scroobal]

Looks like all the main opposition parties are waiting for PM to announce BE before they name their candidates. The word is the all the main stream parties will take the opportunity to articulate their vision,create a profile, attract new members ,etc before agreeing to a consensus at the 11th hour just before nomination day. Interestingly both KJ and Desmond have been advised. Not sure if people will play ball but looks like we have a new Maurice in town.

The PM is expected to hold out until Teo Ho Ping parts the bumcheeks of Das, Lau and Chew for the answers for the question raised by everyone who is sane and curious in this country and for the whole saga to die down.

 

[aurvandil]

With all the unresolved scandals involving the establishment, how will he find a window to call the BE?

Looks like all the main opposition parties are waiting for PM to announce BE before they name their candidates. The word is the all the main stream parties will take the opportunity to articulate their vision,create a profile, attract new members ,etc before agreeing to a consensus at the 11th hour just before nomination day. Interestingly both KJ and Desmond have been advised. Not sure if people will play ball but looks like we have a new Maurice in town.

The PM is expected to hold out until Teo Ho Ping parts the bumcheeks of Das, Lau and Chew for the answers for the question raised by everyone who is sane and curious in this country and for the whole saga to die down.

 

[andyfisher]

You mean with all these 'so called' scandals..you think the people bother? talk kok only la

all want to hold out their kkj and wait for the paps to rubba rubba the kkjs and give them dont know wat allowance.

chinkporeans and the new tiongporeans only bothered abt when their next bak kaw is going to come from la...so enuf with this crap la..

pinky power

 

[kukubird58]

Looks like all the main opposition parties are waiting for PM to announce BE before they name their candidates. The word is the all the main stream parties will take the opportunity to articulate their vision,create a profile, attract new members ,etc before agreeing to a consensus at the 11th hour just before nomination day. Interestingly both KJ and Desmond have been advised. Not sure if people will play ball but looks like we have a new Maurice in town.
The PM is expected to hold out until Teo Ho Ping parts the bumcheeks of Das, Lau and Chew for the answers for the question raised by everyone who is sane and curious in this country and for the whole saga to die down.

hahaha......again got say like no say.
If it is a straight fight between papee and opps, I call you Dad and retire from sbf.....period.

True to your usual twisting and turning and opportunistic style, one moment you post that nothing criminal, the next moment you twist and turn and try to milk the AIM situation.

 

[Fook Seng]

you overestimate the good will between the parties...

remember when GMS take credit for tricking PAP into thinking that they will be in MK... just t save his face ...

once GE is over, he start going all mad cow on MK

If he had skipped the post-election outburst, he could have been credited with a strategic master stroke. Unfortunately we know the fact. He is no more than someone who was caught by the circumstances.

 

[Fook Seng]

I agree with red bean that if it is a 5-cornered fight, opposition supporters should give their votes to the PAP to send a strong message, once and for all, to the Opposition that such a suicidal madness has no place in the desperate political scene here.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Most likely we will only have a 3 corner contest, which may actually be a blessing in disguise.

Goh Meng Seng

Looks like all the main opposition parties are waiting for PM to announce BE before they name their candidates. The word is the all the main stream parties will take the opportunity to articulate their vision,create a profile, attract new members ,etc before agreeing to a consensus at the 11th hour just before nomination day. Interestingly both KJ and Desmond have been advised. Not sure if people will play ball but looks like we have a new Maurice in town.

The PM is expected to hold out until Teo Ho Ping parts the bumcheeks of Das, Lau and Chew for the answers for the question raised by everyone who is sane and curious in this country and for the whole saga to die down.

 

[brocoli]

Looks like all the main opposition parties are waiting for PM to announce BE before they name their candidates. The word is the all the main stream parties will take the opportunity to articulate their vision,create a profile, attract new members ,etc before agreeing to a consensus at the 11th hour just before nomination day. Interestingly both KJ and Desmond have been advised. Not sure if people will play ball but looks like we have a new Maurice in town.

flip floping roti prAta who has been discredit so many times....

1 minute, say the NCMP will resign his seat to contest a seat which most likely to lose just to prevent Vincent Wijeysingha from running..

couple weeks back, he was begging Vincent Wijeysingha not to engage in fucking foreign funded causes ....

now he say both KJ and Desmond have been advised, by who? never say.... any1 who is spending like 40k do not need any advise if they will likely lose their pants...

NOW he can predict that we will have consensus at the 11th hour when we do not even know if there will be BE,. PM have announced nothing yet/....

FUCKING delusional kukubird... thinkjnng there is a lot of good will between all the parties...

did not Sylvia said "They are not in Parliamanet, We are"
did not SDP like to said "opposition unity" only to announce that also want to contest BE,
did not Desmond Lim cry father cry mother against WP
did not KJ flame WP as "Approved opposition" whenever he gas the chance ?

there are no goodwill, every one want to maximise their exposure with minimum cost... all the joker thinking they can blackmail WP for 2016...

and WP do not mind wasting a BE that they are not confident of winning to whack the rest of idiots in line for 2016

 

[kukubird58]

FUCKING delusional kukubird... thinkjnng there is a lot of good will between all the parties...

did not Sylvia said "They are not in Parliamanet, We are"
did not SDP like to said "opposition unity" only to announce that also want to contest BE,
did not Desmond Lim cry father cry mother against WP
did not KJ flame WP as "Approved opposition" whenever he gas the chance ?

there are no goodwill, every one want to maximise their exposure with minimum cost... all the joker thinking they can blackmail WP for 2016...

and WP do not mind wasting a BE that they are not confident of winning to whack the rest of idiots in line for 2016

hahaha....u bad...why u scold me????

 

[myfoot123]

Hey guys, don't forget about Dr Ang Yong Guan from SDP, he is the cheerful kind of guy next door.

 

[brocoli]

Hey guys, don't forget about Dr Ang Yong Guan from SDP, he is the cheerful kind of guy next door.

right
Dr Ang Yong Guan is the 1 that WP should fear, he was PAP grassroots leader at Bedok Reservoir-Punggol under George Yeo, and he used to chaired the Punggol Community Club management committee for a long time.

Punggol Community Club is 30m away from 522 where Low hold his MPS...

Harmony Park is a stone throw from Punggol Park which is where Punggol East is.....

Dr Ang Yong Guan should be quite familar with that area

 

[liongsum]

hahaha......again got say like no say.
If it is a straight fight between papee and opps, I call you Dad and retire from sbf.....period.

True to your usual twisting and turning and opportunistic style, one moment you post that nothing criminal, the next moment you twist and turn and try to milk the AIM situation.

Nothing criminal, but it is not sweet. Since when are town councils into selling things? Even when they invest, some got badly burned. Next, will they be designing games and sell them or maybe buy a few properties to profit form capital gains? Are such things within their scope? Who determines what they can or cannot do? Can MCST councils do this?

 

[kukubird58]

Nothing criminal, but it is not sweet. Since when are town councils into selling things? Even when they invest, some got badly burned. Next, will they be designing games and sell them or maybe buy a few properties to profit form capital gains? Are such things within their scope? Who determines what they can or cannot do? Can MCST councils do this?

hahaha.....of course papee can be accused of boh swee/kia su/ungentlemanly; etc.....
wp waited for more than a year to bring out this matter.....
let us wait for a few days more before making further judgement....
btw try to read the replies/releases/letters from all sides to make informed judgement....

 

[aurvandil]

WP is using the AIM sage to show why they are the best party to contest the PE BE. I expect WP will keep this burning until the upcoming Budget debate where it will get prominent airing in Parliament. I expect them to also question the role of the PA in Parliament during the upcoming Budget debate and so resurrect the the MP-LO affair.

For SDP, they are seen as a spoiler at the moment. If they want to win, their best play would be to unveil their king card and go walking around PE. The longer he walks around, the more legitimacy he will have to contest in PE. This will force WP's hand. WP has no king card at the moment to counter SDP. As the SDP king card gains recognition, public perception will shift to WP being the spoiler who should withdraw.

Taken together, we should have a nice build up of pressure on LHL to hold the PE BE. The longer he drags, the more politicized PE will become. While the courts have ruled he has unfettered discretion, the PAP will suffer in terms of credibility and reputation if this drags beyond the 6 month "guideline" period that has been proposed. Also the PAP will probably parachute an unknown into PE. This works in favor of SDP playing their king card early and working the ground for support.

Assuming the SDP king card does well, this would be basis for SDP to claim PE for GE 2016. This would create all sort of problems for the redrawing of the boundaries. PAP is hoping to weaken WP in East Coast GRC by dumping some of the weaker constituencies into Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC. If Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC takes in a toxic PE, TCH himself could become vulnerable.

 

[Fook Seng]

For SDP, they are seen as a spoiler at the moment. If they want to win, their best play would be to unveil their king card and go walking around PE.

Very creative analysis. But quite a few things need to turn out correctly though.

SDP's king card is Ang Yong Guan? When did he start walking around PE recently? How long ago did he last walked? He will need to walk like an Olympic walker to make up for lost time.

The last time he walked, I believe, he was as a PAP grassroots. If there is any affection for him, it would be from the PAP supporters, not the Opposition.

But we should go back to PE 2011 to see how strong or otherwise such vote swing could be. TCB had been a very strong votes gatherer during his MP days with the PAP. Yet he could not garner the votes from both the PAP and Opposition camps to beat Tony Tan.

Mind you, in a PE, some voters do not vote along party lines as the Presidential Office is probably treated as neutral by a fair number of people, so greater vote swing was expected. Not so with a constituency BE. AYG would be treated by PAP supporters as a turncoat rather than someone they would give their votes to.

SDP must think a bit harder if they want to play this card.

 

[aurvandil]

In GE 2011, SDP fielded their A team in Holland Bukit Timah. That GRC has arguably the most bohemian demographic in Singapore. Even then, SDP paid a high price when news of VW's orientation was splashed across all the msm newspapers. PE's demographic is young. It is however conservative which is why I am confident SDP will lose deposit if they field VW in a 3 corner against a weak WP LL.

If you are looking at king cards, you should look beyond those that ran in GE 2011. You shoould also consider the heavyweights that spoke at their rally. And then of course we also have the prospect of TJS rejoining and running under SDP.

 

[aurvandil]

Thanks.The focus is not SDP but rather a look behind the strategy considerations facing PAP, WP annd SDP.

Very creative analysis. But quite a few things need to turn out correctly though.

SDP's king card is Ang Yong Guan? When did he start walking around PE recently? How long ago did he last walked? He will need to walk like an Olympic walker to make up for lost time.

The last time he walked, I believe, he was as a PAP grassroots. If there is any affection for him, it would be from the PAP supporters, not the Opposition.

But we should go back to PE 2011 to see how strong or otherwise such vote swing could be. TCB had been a very strong votes gatherer during his MP days with the PAP. Yet he could not garner the votes from both the PAP and Opposition camps to beat Tony Tan.

Mind you, in a PE, some voters do not vote along party lines as the Presidential Office is probably treated as neutral by a fair number of people, so greater vote swing was expected. Not so with a constituency BE. AYG would be treated by PAP supporters as a turncoat rather than someone they would give their votes to.

SDP must think a bit harder if they want to play this card.

 

[kingrant]

I forgot all about Ang Yong Guan. Yes, have to concede that he is another possibility to VW.

In GE 2011, SDP fielded their A team in Holland Bukit Timah. That GRC has arguably the most bohemian demographic in Singapore. Even then, SDP paid a high price when news of VW's orientation was splashed across all the msm newspapers. PE's demographic is young. It is however conservative which is why I am confident SDP will lose deposit if they field VW in a 3 corner against a weak WP LL.

If you are looking at king cards, you should look beyond those that ran in GE 2011. You shoould also consider the heavyweights that spoke at their rally. And then of course we also have the prospect of TJS rejoining and running under SDP.

 

[aurvandil]

Of course he is a possibility. I suspect VW to be a ruse.

I forgot all about Ang Yong Guan. Yes, have to concede that he is another possibility to VW.

 

[brocoli]

PE's demographic is young. It is however conservative which is why I am confident SDP will lose deposit if they field VW in a 3 corner against a weak WP LL.

If you are looking at king cards, you should look beyond those that ran in GE 2011. You shoould also consider the heavyweights that spoke at their rally. And then of course we also have the prospect of TJS rejoining and running under SDP.

I agree that SDP will do badly, not sure if VW will lose deposit against lilian although I must admire your flip floping

After I pointed out that young couples have the most to lose from the liberal, you flip flop and say PE's demographic is young. but conservative
yesterday you were still championing the TJS as the ultimate WP killer... TJS is no less liberal than VW...

After I pointed out AYG is the ex chair of Punggol CC, you now flip prata and say AYG is King Card...

another KUKUBIRD like Scoobal, no originality but a wild imagination///

see what he say ....

TJS is the only king card WP will fear. The demos of PE is such that it is a relatively young constituiency. TJS will has big credentials and will come across as a lot more credible than LL. While WP won't lose deposit, the loss margin should be large enough for SDP to declare they have beaten WP.

yesterday say WP will just barely lose deposit to TJS, today say VW will lose deposit against lilian....

the only difference between TJS and VW is that TJS is more damaged than VW after his stunt in PE.... I cant wait to dig out all your PE post and post mortem all your bullshit

Of course he is a possibility. I suspect VW to be a ruse.

huat ruse, ?? the only 1 worshipping VW is your goot fren, the godfather of this forum...