Khaw said ILS is a technical excuse used by mudland to trigger unfriendly act. Exactly what I said! Jealousy is the root cause. All lame excuses!

Seems that KHAW has dump his loyalty for Singapore.
 
Tongkatali said:
Can the m&ds stop stressing Khaw later he needs to go for second $8 bypass.
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Appealing to barbarian criminal bullies based on health reason is no use. They will be rejoicing and clapping instead. Again i am not talking based on hot air but solid evidence. Just need to look at how the m&d rats here @musashi @sweetiepie @AhMeng @Valium etc react to my thread on sleep apnea.
 
ginfreely said:
Oops forgot to say I am in the same league as Khaw. ILS is just an excuse for invasion!
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Btw before the bloody thick skinned m&d rats dare to open their mouth to ask to take back air space management, they should go find the missing plane first that they managed until vanished into thin air and wasted whole world resources to look for it.
 
ginfreely said:
Khaw is right. Of course mudland will create issue out of no issue for anything and everything indeed. I am not talking based on hot air but my actual unfortunate experience with ccb Malaysians. Exactly what m&d RATS did to me @sweetiepie @musashi @AhMeng @rotiprata etc etc
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Khaw is doing the dirty work for Gen Kee Chiu.
There was NO consultation with Mudland on the ILS. There is no need for Seletar, a secondary airport, to have ILS. If planes can't land in Seletar, go to Changi. So, the intent is to stir up shit.
Looks like Khaw is in the Kee Chiu camp.

Khaw's response is a non-response. He didn't justify the need for ILS. He didn't address the issues raised. He does even acknowledge the Mudland's concerns. That is the typical PAP arrogance which sinkees have put up with but other countries don't have to take. PAP always use it on Mudland. They don't dare to do it to Indonesia or Thailand or any other countries. So, this twin is kicking the older twin and seeking a fight. Let the fight begin.
 
winnipegjets said:
Khaw is doing the dirty work for Gen Kee Chiu.
There was NO consultation with Mudland on the ILS. There is no need for Seletar, a secondary airport, to have ILS. If planes can't land in Seletar, go to Changi. So, the intent is to stir up shit.
Looks like Khaw is in the Kee Chiu camp.

Khaw's response is a non-response. He didn't justify the need for ILS. He didn't address the issues raised. He does even acknowledge the Mudland's concerns. That is the typical PAP arrogance which sinkees have put up with but other countries don't have to take. PAP always use it on Mudland. They don't dare to do it to Indonesia or Thailand or any other countries. So, this twin is kicking the older twin and seeking a fight. Let the fight begin.
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No we did seek consultation from more than one year ahead. It’s the m&ds that no hew and no response until recent months.

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winnipegjets said:
Khaw is doing the dirty work for Gen Kee Chiu.
There was NO consultation with Mudland on the ILS. There is no need for Seletar, a secondary airport, to have ILS. If planes can't land in Seletar, go to Changi. So, the intent is to stir up shit.
Looks like Khaw is in the Kee Chiu camp.

Khaw's response is a non-response. He didn't justify the need for ILS. He didn't address the issues raised. He does even acknowledge the Mudland's concerns. That is the typical PAP arrogance which sinkees have put up with but other countries don't have to take. PAP always use it on Mudland. They don't dare to do it to Indonesia or Thailand or any other countries. So, this twin is kicking the older twin and seeking a fight. Let the fight begin.
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Why do you have blind loyalty to m&ds and blind to facts? Khaw did address the issues and the news reported the inaccuracies of that stupid m&d chinese minister point by point.

On Tuesday (Dec 11), Malaysia’s Transport Minister Anthony Loke posted a video on his Facebook page that is more than a minute long, and it raised several points to illustrate why there is objection to the ILS procedures being rolled out at Seletar Airport.

However, Singapore’s Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan told reporters on Wednesday that the video “contains a few inaccuracies”.

Inaccuracy 1

What the video says: Structures 3km away from Seletar Airport cannot be built higher than 54m, while structures 6km away from Seletar cannot be built more than 145m. A mobile crane at 103m will breach the height limits and there are also other tall buildings in Johor.

What the facts are: The ILS procedures were designed in line with international standards and taking into account Pasir Gudang’s existing structures.

Under the ILS procedures, flights will use a glide path when they descend. Below this glide path is the Obstacle Assessment Surface, or to put it simply, a safety height buffer that extends from the on-the-ground structure to the glide path. Structures cannot penetrate this buffer and the height restrictions vary along the path of descent.

The safety height buffer at the 3km mark is 93.8m, and at the 6km mark, it is 193.1m. This means the height of structures cannot exceed those figures.

Right now, the tallest structure in Pasir Gudang is 105m tall and is located 3.6km from Seletar Airport. So, it falls under the 198.1m height restriction. These height restrictions can be further adjusted if required.

Inaccuracy 2

What the video says: The flight path prevents the construction of tall buildings over Pasir Gudang.

What the facts are: So far, developments in Pasir Gudang have not been constrained by the existing flight path. Malaysia would, in the past, inform Singapore of new developments. Singapore would them assess and adjust procedures as necessary.

As of now, Singapore has not been informed of any upcoming developments that would significantly affect the flight path for flights going to Seletar Airport.

To ensure aviation safety, Malaysia is required under international guidelines to provide early notification of upcoming developments.

Inaccuracy 3

What the video says: Pasir Gudang Port will be subjected to higher risks and multiple restrictions.

What the facts are: Activities at the port and in the sea will not be affected by the existing flight path. There has been a standard procedure for flights to be held back while tall vessels cross the Straits of Johor.

Inaccuracy 4

What the video says: Previously, Seletar Airport did not use ILS. Pilots can manoeuvre around obstacles and no height regulation is required around flight path area. With ILS, it will be compulsory to impose height restrictions.

What the facts are: Just because pilots use ILS does not mean they do not have full control of the planes. They still do, meaning they can manually intervene should security concerns require it.

Under international standards, it is also a requirement to mitigate the impact of tall buildings on aviation safety. This is regardless of whether or not pilots use the ILS or manual procedures.

Inaccuracy 5

What the video says: The existing flight path affects development in various areas, from Pasir Gudang up north to Ayer Tawar and almost to Kota Tinggi.

What the facts are: The further an area is from Seletar Airport, the higher is the safety height barrier. Therefore, there will be less impact on ground developments. For instance, planes will be flying at a height of 1km at Ayer Tawar.

Inaccuracy 6

What the video says: Mr Loke said that Malaysia is not against Seletar Airport, “but as far as the descending flight path is concerned, it cannot be over Pasir Gudang”. He urged Singapore to withdraw the ILS and to amend the flight path for entry from the southern end.

What the facts are: Singapore already told its neighbour that the ILS will be for flights coming into Seletar Airport from the north and south. This is necessary as wind blows from a north-easterly direction for the first half of the year, and south-westerly in the second half of the year.

The ILS procedures are already used for flights coming from the north and, as such, there is a need for instrument flight approaches for planes arriving from the south.
 
ginfreely said:
Why do you have blind loyalty to m&ds and blind to facts? Khaw did address the issues and the news reported the inaccuracies of that stupid m&d chinese minister point by point.

On Tuesday (Dec 11), Malaysia’s Transport Minister Anthony Loke posted a video on his Facebook page that is more than a minute long, and it raised several points to illustrate why there is objection to the ILS procedures being rolled out at Seletar Airport.

However, Singapore’s Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan told reporters on Wednesday that the video “contains a few inaccuracies”.

Inaccuracy 1

What the video says: Structures 3km away from Seletar Airport cannot be built higher than 54m, while structures 6km away from Seletar cannot be built more than 145m. A mobile crane at 103m will breach the height limits and there are also other tall buildings in Johor.

What the facts are: The ILS procedures were designed in line with international standards and taking into account Pasir Gudang’s existing structures.

Under the ILS procedures, flights will use a glide path when they descend. Below this glide path is the Obstacle Assessment Surface, or to put it simply, a safety height buffer that extends from the on-the-ground structure to the glide path. Structures cannot penetrate this buffer and the height restrictions vary along the path of descent.

The safety height buffer at the 3km mark is 93.8m, and at the 6km mark, it is 193.1m. This means the height of structures cannot exceed those figures.

Right now, the tallest structure in Pasir Gudang is 105m tall and is located 3.6km from Seletar Airport. So, it falls under the 198.1m height restriction. These height restrictions can be further adjusted if required.

Inaccuracy 2

What the video says: The flight path prevents the construction of tall buildings over Pasir Gudang.

What the facts are: So far, developments in Pasir Gudang have not been constrained by the existing flight path. Malaysia would, in the past, inform Singapore of new developments. Singapore would them assess and adjust procedures as necessary.

As of now, Singapore has not been informed of any upcoming developments that would significantly affect the flight path for flights going to Seletar Airport.

To ensure aviation safety, Malaysia is required under international guidelines to provide early notification of upcoming developments.

Inaccuracy 3

What the video says: Pasir Gudang Port will be subjected to higher risks and multiple restrictions.

What the facts are: Activities at the port and in the sea will not be affected by the existing flight path. There has been a standard procedure for flights to be held back while tall vessels cross the Straits of Johor.

Inaccuracy 4

What the video says: Previously, Seletar Airport did not use ILS. Pilots can manoeuvre around obstacles and no height regulation is required around flight path area. With ILS, it will be compulsory to impose height restrictions.

What the facts are: Just because pilots use ILS does not mean they do not have full control of the planes. They still do, meaning they can manually intervene should security concerns require it.

Under international standards, it is also a requirement to mitigate the impact of tall buildings on aviation safety. This is regardless of whether or not pilots use the ILS or manual procedures.

Inaccuracy 5

What the video says: The existing flight path affects development in various areas, from Pasir Gudang up north to Ayer Tawar and almost to Kota Tinggi.

What the facts are: The further an area is from Seletar Airport, the higher is the safety height barrier. Therefore, there will be less impact on ground developments. For instance, planes will be flying at a height of 1km at Ayer Tawar.

Inaccuracy 6

What the video says: Mr Loke said that Malaysia is not against Seletar Airport, “but as far as the descending flight path is concerned, it cannot be over Pasir Gudang”. He urged Singapore to withdraw the ILS and to amend the flight path for entry from the southern end.

What the facts are: Singapore already told its neighbour that the ILS will be for flights coming into Seletar Airport from the north and south. This is necessary as wind blows from a north-easterly direction for the first half of the year, and south-westerly in the second half of the year.

The ILS procedures are already used for flights coming from the north and, as such, there is a need for instrument flight approaches for planes arriving from the south.
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So proven that m&d chinese minister a Cantonese LOKE is another piece of shit anyhow making accusations of Singapore based on hot air without knowing the basics of airspace management. This kind of m&d quality dare to want to take over airspace management. Go to hell man.
 
ginfreely said:
What the facts are: Activities at the port and in the sea will not be affected by the existing flight path. There has been a standard procedure for flights to be held back while tall vessels cross the Straits of Johor.
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Err! How eill they know when a crane will lift high or ships passing through? Malaysian can sabotage by anchoring a heavy lift crane at pasir gudang with its crane at highest level.
 
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