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Serious Kausikan says train and train! Heck care if NSmen die!

steffychun

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https://mothership.sg/2019/01/bilahari-kausikan-aloysius-pang/

Audience member Angie Chew, who said she did not represent any particular organisation, asked:

“Our young men are being put on alert whenever the governments are arguing. And with the recent loss of Aloysius Pang, I would like to share that as a parent, we are all very concerned about the safety of our children, especially our boys.
And leadership comes with accountability. And what is your view in terms of accountability both in terms of words are spoken and the lives of our young men being put at risk. Not for war, but for practice. And this has been ongoing, many lives have been lost.”​

She added that “we need transparency.”


Singapore still needs a strong deterrent capability
First, Bilahari replied that tensions between Singapore and the rest of Southeast Asia will always exist because of “inherent contradictions.”
He said that “this is an existential state of affairs, you’re going to need a strong deterrent capability. To have a strong deterrent capability, you will have to have realistic training.”
However, he emphasized that he was not making light of training accidents, but they did occur despite precautions being taken.
Second, Bilahari believes that given the environment that Singapore is in, there is “no substitute” for deterrence.
Remarking specifically on tensions with Malaysia, Bilahari said Singapore had to demonstrate that there is a limit beyond which Malaysia should not go.
He said that without Singapore being able to demonstrate that from time to time, in a broader context of having a strong deterrent force, things are more likely to get out of hand, not less.
Wait for Committee of Inquiry results
Drawing on his past National Service experiences, Bilahari said he was enlisted in 1971, and left the reserves when he was 50 years old.
In that time, he said that training safety standards have been raised, and that it was being taken “very seriously”.
He also mentioned the Committee of Inquiry set up to investigate the circumstances surrounding Pang’s death.
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Bilahari said:
“I don’t think Mindef has been untransparent about this last or previous incidents. But this tragedy just happened, quite recently, I believe a Committee of Inquiry will be instituted, and I think the results of that Committee of Inquiry will be made public.”​
He concluded by asking her to reserve judgment and not to confuse two things that are “quite separate”:
“National Service policy, realistic training is vital, because without that, there is no deterrence. If there is no deterrence, bilateral tensions will get worse, not better.”​
The concluding remark received much applause from the audience.
Top image by Andrew Wong.
 

shittypore

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Tat lady put her questions wrongly, shld ask wat are we protecting and training for, wat part of Sinkiepore do we own, the sacrifice we parent give to tis shithole for wat in returned? Forget abt loyalty or service to this cuntry. Ask MIW how much of their service have they sacrific for tis cuntry. Get real, by examples and not words.
 

borom

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had his son died during NS/Reservist would he have said the same thing?
I do not wish it on anybody, even on the PAP politicians, but all these COI has not stopped the number of deaths from going up.
If the Minister of Defence has to step down like they do in some other countries, that might be some hope, if not have to remove PAP as govt before things will change for the better
 

winnipegjets

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https://mothership.sg/2019/01/bilahari-kausikan-aloysius-pang/

Audience member Angie Chew, who said she did not represent any particular organisation, asked:

“Our young men are being put on alert whenever the governments are arguing. And with the recent loss of Aloysius Pang, I would like to share that as a parent, we are all very concerned about the safety of our children, especially our boys.​
And leadership comes with accountability. And what is your view in terms of accountability both in terms of words are spoken and the lives of our young men being put at risk. Not for war, but for practice. And this has been ongoing, many lives have been lost.”​

She added that “we need transparency.”


Singapore still needs a strong deterrent capability
First, Bilahari replied that tensions between Singapore and the rest of Southeast Asia will always exist because of “inherent contradictions.”
He said that “this is an existential state of affairs, you’re going to need a strong deterrent capability. To have a strong deterrent capability, you will have to have realistic training.”
However, he emphasized that he was not making light of training accidents, but they did occur despite precautions being taken.
Second, Bilahari believes that given the environment that Singapore is in, there is “no substitute” for deterrence.
Remarking specifically on tensions with Malaysia, Bilahari said Singapore had to demonstrate that there is a limit beyond which Malaysia should not go.
He said that without Singapore being able to demonstrate that from time to time, in a broader context of having a strong deterrent force, things are more likely to get out of hand, not less.
Wait for Committee of Inquiry results
Drawing on his past National Service experiences, Bilahari said he was enlisted in 1971, and left the reserves when he was 50 years old.
In that time, he said that training safety standards have been raised, and that it was being taken “very seriously”.
He also mentioned the Committee of Inquiry set up to investigate the circumstances surrounding Pang’s death.
Advertisement

Bilahari said:
“I don’t think Mindef has been untransparent about this last or previous incidents. But this tragedy just happened, quite recently, I believe a Committee of Inquiry will be instituted, and I think the results of that Committee of Inquiry will be made public.”​
He concluded by asking her to reserve judgment and not to confuse two things that are “quite separate”:
“National Service policy, realistic training is vital, because without that, there is no deterrence. If there is no deterrence, bilateral tensions will get worse, not better.”​
The concluding remark received much applause from the audience.
Top image by Andrew Wong.

Idiotic Bilahari just messed up the PAP's plan on easing tension with Mudland. After the gung ho cries by the politician generals and their supporters which Mudland took it as a challenge, there was an urgency to de-escalate as tensions was growing. Pang's death provided the opportunity. The lowering of training 'tempo' was the message to Mudland that SINKapore was not gaming for a fight. Now, idiot Kasukan harps on SINKapore's deterrence.
 
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Confuseous

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Sometimes one but cannot help think that he talks for the sake of talking OR purposely say something really pokey to get
the peasants aroused.
 
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