John Tan not short listed as Pap candidate for 2020 GE

[Annunaki]

All one kind of typical PAP elitist fuck face

 

[maxsanic]

Ultimately all the candidates put up by the PAP will fall into broadly 3 categories in order of importance:

1) The real identified elites who are put up in order to take up executive positions like MOS/Ministers. They are the usual SAF/AO/GLC senior executives.
2) Special people who identify as representatives of either racial or interest groups.
3) The leftovers who are usually chosen from the PAP grassroots level membership. These are token candidates put up to show that the leadership 'takes care' of their grunts and perhaps soften the elite image of the party in the eyes of the electorate.

The real challenge for the PAP/Singapore is is #1. As eluded by scroobal, the high achievers in the society generally do not want to be associated with the PAP or partake in its politics. That's why every election we are stuck with the incestuous relationship of only getting people who are already in or heavily involved with the government in the first place.

These 200 or so identified 'candidates' are probably all fighting for the #2 & #3 slots which in the national grand scheme of things is rather irrelevant. Even if selected they will be performing mostly municipal administration and are not destined to hold any responsibility or authority of significance.

 

[halsey02]

Inbreeding produces RETARDS, those who voted for them, are retards anyway...it is ok!

 

[Wunderfool]

Ultimately all the candidates put up by the PAP will fall into broadly 3 categories in order of importance:

1) The real identified elites who are put up in order to take up executive positions like MOS/Ministers. They are the usual SAF/AO/GLC senior executives.
2) Special people who identify as representatives of either racial or interest groups.
3) The leftovers who are usually chosen from the PAP grassroots level membership. These are token candidates put up to show that the leadership 'takes care' of their grunts and perhaps soften the elite image of the party in the eyes of the electorate.

The real challenge for the PAP/Singapore is is #1. As eluded by scroobal, the high achievers in the society generally do not want to be associated with the PAP or partake in its politics. That's why every election we are stuck with the incestuous relationship of only getting people who are already in or heavily involved with the government in the first place.

These 200 or so identified 'candidates' are probably all fighting for the #2 & #3 slots which in the national grand scheme of things is rather irrelevant. Even if selected they will be performing mostly municipal administration and are not destined to hold any responsibility or authority of significance.

Maybe not. Some in the # 3 or #4 can get a shot at Presidency.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

all decline comment. speaks volume, doesn't it?

Bwahahahahahahaa... :p:p:p

all decline comment. speaks volume, doesn't it?

Bwahahahahahahaa... :p:p:p

all decline comment. speaks volume, doesn't it?

Bwahahahahahahaa... :p:p:p

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altogether Huat Ahhh....200 has been selected for the once in 5 years Super ToTo Lucky Draw...from it only about 10 to 15% will selected for the Grand Draw. huat ahh !

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

Quote by CheeBye Mouth John :Oppie Low would be invited to commit hara kiri for his mismanagement of aljunied town council.

See this report outside SG UtusanBiz go sue them ! but its factual!!

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translation please

 

[steffychun]

As the mid-point of its five-year term approaches, the ruling People's Action Party (PAP) has identified about 200 potential candidates for the next general election, The Sunday Times has learnt.

Some names floated at this early stage are: Mr Charles Lim, 41, general counsel at the sovereign wealth fund GIC; Mr Alvin Tan, 37, head of public policy (South-east Asia), at social media giant Facebook; and Ms Jaclyn Seow, 32, who works in strategic projects at Raffles Medical Group.

Others include those who spoke at the PAP convention two weeks ago: Ms Fang Eu-Lin, 39, a partner at consultancy PricewaterhouseCoopers and daughter of former Nominated MP Fang Ai Lian; Mr Jagathishwaran Rajo, 30, an NTUC industrial relations officer; and Ms Asyifah Rashid, 27, an A*Star biomedical research administrator.

The list - which consists of people from the private and public sectors - is still growing. Some were first considered for the 2015 General Election.

Around a quarter of the 200 have begun attending tea sessions with ministers, which party insiders said began in earnest earlier this year. These sessions help party leaders assess them, and are part of a long process before they are whittled down to the final slate. The PAP replaces about a quarter of its slate for every general election - with 26 new faces in 2006, and 24 each in 2011 and 2015.

PAP organising secretary Gan Kim Yong, who is overseeing the selection process, told ST that names are suggested by MPs, party activists and supporters.



"It's an ongoing process that spreads over the entire period from GE to GE," said the Health Minister, who also oversaw the process for the 2015 General Election.

The next general election is due by April 2021. Mr Gan is assisted by Mr Heng Swee Keat, who is Finance Minister, and Ms Sim Ann, who is Senior Minister of State for Trade and Industry and Culture, Community and Youth.

The search this round comes as the ruling party is forming the core of its fourth-generation leadership.

While Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong - who has said he intends to step down by 2022 - has indicated the fourth PM is likely to be in the current Cabinet, PAP MPs said new candidates at the next general election could still form part of the fourth-generation leadership.

In the current Cabinet, just six of the 21 ministers are younger politicians who entered politics in 2011 and 2015. In addition, one who entered in 2006 - Minister in the Prime Minister's Office Josephine Teo, 49 - is seen as a fourth-generation leader.

Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC MP Zainal Sapari said: "We need people to be ministers, political office holders, as well as people who can connect on the ground."

A PAP MP, who asked not to be named, added: "There are always leadership opportunities for some in the next batch. Now is the time to look out for new layers of leadership as well."

In the initial phase of the selection process, groups of potential candidates attend tea sessions hosted by a minister and a few MPs.

In the later stages, they are interviewed individually by panels of ministers. ST understands that the panel stage has not begun.

In the past, candidates have also been asked to undergo psychological profiling.

Closer to the election, they will typically be attached to MPs to do constituency work, if they were not party activists previously.

Tampines GRC MP Baey Yam Keng said that compared with 2006, when he was a new candidate, the party now asks hopefuls to get involved on the ground earlier.

This avoids last-minute introductions, which can trigger rumblings among party rank and file about candidates being parachuted in.

Public servants, though, are usually sent in only in the final months leading up to an election - after they have resigned from public service.

Mr Tan has been a volunteer at Kreta Ayer-Kim Seng since 2005, while Ms Fang is now helping out at Bukit Timah.

Mr Lim is not yet at any PAP branch, but has been a district councillor at the Central Community Development Council for the past decade.

All declined comment.

But the task of recruiting potential candidates is more difficult this time round, said several MPs. Those who declined cited reasons such as a more difficult electorate and rising vitriol on social media.

Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC MP Teo Ser Luck added that some of those he approached are concerned about the political climate for PAP MPs becoming tougher over the years.

A veteran party activist who did not want to be named also cited "nastier attacks" on social media.

But some who said "no" when approached can still be persuaded to hold off on deciding, said the MPs.

Marine Parade GRC MP Seah Kian Peng said he coaxes people to keep an open mind and to attend tea sessions first, adding: "I tell them that it's a journey where there is a bit of self-discovery for the individual, while at the same time the party is assessing you."

http://www.straitstimes.com/politics/pap-identifies-200-hopefuls-for-next-ge

No PAPer General or Rear Admiral on the list? Or Hongyi?

 

[Narong Wongwan]

No PAPer General or Rear Admiral on the list? Or Hongyi?

Those will come later with the civil serpents....
Paper generals can’t be politically affiliated.

 

[scroobal]

Couple of others things

1. One MP slot is reserved for Chinese Language Teachers Rep since the 80s. Their union is arguably the most powerful particularly during Old Man’s Time. They also on per capita basis receive the most benefits such as overseas trips, grants and scholarship.

2. Sometime in late 80s, early 90s, OMS candidate’s are required to attend programme prior to departure and to return to Singapore after 1st year for 2 reasons - pairing off and also groom them for higher public ( read politics). Both goals have been successful as intermarriage within OMS is now an all time high and rejection rate of OMS scholars are not as bad as before. Both are old man’s ideas.

3. Scholars typically will reject postings to PA and NTUC.

4. Aline Wong was the first MP to come from migrant group but she turned out to be best to date as she was fully integrated. No successful candidates since then as they tend to stick out. I am leaving out likes of Janil and other ex Malaysian and Indonesians.

5. There is second pathway and this is for non elected posts - CCC, MCC, Town Councils and appendages of PAP. These are usually developers and principal partners of the big 4. Developers provide resources to the party and look after heathens for the benefits gained from the existing system. Recall the soup lines though is part of this. The big 4 effectively become captive and therefore signing off yearly accounts of various GLCs, Stats boards do not lead to explosive headlines.

6. Except for the 1st and 2nd batch of NMPs most of whom who had a mind of their own, things have changed. Now it’s representation along industry and social sectors. The proof of the pudding for all to see is how they voted on the population white paper. The change from individuals on merit to industry and social sectors has proved good for the PAP as more people are prepared to come forward and genuinely but erroneously think they are not part of the PAP system. Note the massive drop in quality since the early batches.

8. Role of various think tanks is now part of the social fabric which previously was handled Bub SPH Research Unit. Unfortunately it gives the impression that alternative views are sought and given but it only to the charade. The cherrypicking is the order of the day. What is interesting is that NUS and NTU core faculty which in the early decades of nation building helped by a lot and even included MPs in parliament have been completely cut-off as they found to be too professional - intellectually honest.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

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of the 200 called how many are chosen ?

how many on reserved list .?

what happened to those Not chosen to run for 2020 GE ?



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All 200 are existing PAP members who have put their names into the hat or their Branch have put their names forward and they agreed to it. The pool for party members to be MPs is small.

The bulk will come from those who are not party members but identified and persuaded by Ministers. Many especially Minister category candidates will come from Public Service or have private practice usually medical doctors.

In the past, only a shortlist of party members will go thru the tea party but because of grumbling within the party all now are given tea Party as a show. None of these will go thru psychological testing.

Interestingly a rare few long standing party members who are considered serious contenders and may even be Minister material are not part of the 200. They are picked by HQ and Ministers and not Branch. They are either kids or close relatives of former MPs and Ministers and have long ties. Ong is a good example.

The Malay lady and the Indian chap. Malays PAP MPs are strong candidates as for the Malays they must be endorsed by their community who pick their own candidates and they would have been signed up with party sometime ago. The Indian chap is from NTUC who are given a quota.

The model from the late 80s remains the same - the bulk will come from outside the Party. Most from Public service, GLC and Regulated professions.

The usual problem remains, few people actually are keen to be part of the PAP if they do not have to depend on the party for their business or career.

 

[batman1]

John Tan por-lum-par skills not up to standard.

 

[pakchewcheng]

John Tan por-lum-par skills not up to standard.

John Tan should be publicly rotanned so he be encouraged to get all his skills up to standard!
More to enjoy with our chips and dips and popcorn!

 

[GoldenDragon]

Many years ago, SC Cavindar Bull was invited to join the MIW but he declined. He would have been more than an MP.

He declined because he did not agree being fielded as an Indian candidate! He’s a S’porean after all - not Indian, not Chinese, not Malay, not Eurasian.

Compare him with that lady. An Indian but overnight became and agreed to become a minah. Disgraceful.

 

[zhihau]

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altogether Huat Ahhh....200 has been selected for the once in 5 years Super ToTo Lucky Draw...from it only about 10 to 15% will selected for the Grand Draw. huat ahh !

You make it sound like those Reader's Digest Sweepstakes...

 

[eatshitndie]

Many years ago, SC Cavindar Bull was invited to join the MIW but he declined. He would have been more than an MP.

He declined because he did not agree being fielded as an Indian candidate! He’s a S’porean after all - not Indian, not Chinese, not Malay, not Eurasian.

Compare him with that lady. An Indian but overnight became and agreed to become a minah. Disgraceful.

times have changed. it's perfectly ok now to change identities, race, ethnicities, names, parties, cuntries, citizenships, allegiances. for only $69k a year of free chobolan incum i would gladly change my ethnicity to mudyoyo.

 

[Cottonmouth]

Sir John should use his skills credit for a course, Masters in Fellatio, he will be pushed up the ranks.