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Serious It's Official! Good Minister Shan Losing Money From Renting At Ridout! Need To Top Up From His Lawyer's Income! Cannot Tahan For Long!

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Letter from PM Lee Hsien Loong to PAP MPs on Rules of Prudence on 31 Jul 2020​

All PAP MPs

RULES OF PRUDENCE​

It is a tradition for the Prime Minister to send a letter on “Rules of Prudence” to all the PAP MPs after every general election. The context each time may be different, but the subject remains constant. Integrity, honesty and incorruptibility are fundamental to our Party. We must never tire of reminding ourselves of their importance.

Our Party has won 83 out of 93 seats in the just concluded General Election, with all seats contested. Overall, the PAP won 61.2% of the votes.

The people have endorsed what we have done in our previous term, and given us a clear mandate to take Singapore forward, through the crisis and beyond. Now we must work with Singaporeans to keep COVID-19 in check, protect jobs and livelihoods, and make sure everyone comes through safely together.

Be humble in victory. Always remember that as MPs we are servants of the people, not masters. Listen closely to Singaporeans, help them to tackle pressing needs, and express their worries and aspirations to the Government. Never break faith with the people. Always carry out our duties responsibly, addressing their concerns and advancing their interests. This will help us persuade Singaporeans to support policies which are to their own long-term benefit. It will also enable the Government to formulate good policies and stay in close touch with the people.

UPHOLDING OUR REPUTATION AND INTEGRITY​

One vital factor that has enabled the PAP to retain the trust of Singaporeans all these years is honesty and integrity. The PAP’s reputation for clean, incorruptible government is one of our most precious assets. As PAP MPs, your personal standing reflects this high standing of the Party as a whole. I cannot stress strongly enough that every MP must uphold the rigorous standards that we have set for ourselves and do nothing to compromise them. Never give cause for allegations that you are misusing your position, especially your access to Ministers. That would discredit both you and the Party.

As MPs, you will come across many different sorts of people. Many altruistic, public spirited individuals will help you without wanting anything in return, spending time and money to get community projects going and to serve residents. But a few will cultivate you to obtain benefits for themselves or their companies, to gain respectability by association with you, or to get you to influence ministries and statutory boards to make decisions in their favour. Gift hampers on festive occasions, dinners and entertainment, and personal favours big and small are just some of the countless social lubricants which such people use to ingratiate themselves to MPs and make you obligated to them.

You must distinguish between these two groups of people, and be shrewd in assessing the motives of those who seek to get close to you. At all times be seen to be beyond the influence of gifts or favours.

Be scrupulously proper in your contacts with government departments or public officers. Do not lobby any ministry or statutory board on behalf of anyone who is not your constituent or grassroots volunteer. Do not raise matters with public officers on behalf of friends, clients, contractors, employers, or financiers to advance their business interests. Conduct business with government agencies in writing and avoid making telephone requests. If you have to speak, follow up in writing to put your requests on record.

MPs are often approached by friends, grassroots leaders or proprietors and businessmen to officiate at the openings of their new premises or other business events. They usually offer a gesture in return, such as a donation to a charity or constituency welfare fund. Though it may be awkward to refuse such requests, once you accept one, you will be hard-pressed to draw a line. As a rule, you should decline invitations to such business events. If you feel you should attend, please seek prior approval from the Whip.

SEPARATING BUSINESS AND POLITICS​

Separate your public political position from your private, professional or business interests. MPs who are in business, who occupy senior management positions in companies, or who sit on company boards should be especially vigilant. You must not exploit your public position as Government MPs, your close contacts with the Ministers, or your access to government departments and civil servants, for your personal interest or the benefit of your employers. Your conduct must always be above board.

MPs who are employed by companies or industry associations may at times have to make public statements on behalf of their company or industry association. If you have to do so, make it clear that you are not speaking as an MP, but in your private, professional or business capacity.

Do not use Parliamentary questions or speeches to lobby the Government on behalf of your businesses or clients. When you raise matters in Parliament related to your own businesses or your clients, be careful to first declare your pecuniary interest in the issue.

You may, however, relay feedback and speak freely to Cabinet Ministers, who are your Parliamentary colleagues. Ministers will listen carefully to arguments on principles, especially when they relate to the general policy of their Ministries. But Ministers will not exercise their discretion to change individual decisions without very good reasons which they can justify publicly. Parliamentary Secretaries and Ministers of State who intervene in their Ministries to reverse or alter decisions should promptly report the matter to their Ministers to protect themselves against the suspicion of misconduct. The Government must always base decisions on the merits of the issues, and not yield to pressure from interested parties.

PARLIAMENT​

MPs are expected to attend all sittings of Parliament. If you have to be absent from any sitting, seek permission from the Government Whip. Please inform the Whip if you have to leave the Parliament premises while a sitting is on.

If you travel abroad, or need to be absent from Parliament for any reason, you must apply to the Speaker for leave, with copies to the Leader of the House and the Government Whip. You should also inform the Whip where you can be reached while abroad.

I have asked the Speaker to give all MPs, particularly new MPs, ample opportunity and latitude to speak in Parliament. Your first opportunity will be during the debate on the President’s Address at the opening of Parliament in August 2020. Following that, at the Budget Debate and the Committee of Supply, all MPs should speak up. Script your speeches or put your key points in note form and deliver these clearly, to enable your audience and the media to grasp your points well.

With more opposition MPs in the new Parliament, and a Leader of the Opposition formally designated, we must expect sharper questioning and debate in Parliament. PAP MPs should express their views frankly, whether for or against Government policies. During debates, speak freely and with conviction. Press your points vigorously, and do not shy away from robust exchange. Be prepared to engage the opposition, to clarify their interventions and scrutinise their ideas. However, please exercise judgement when putting your points across, and do not get carried away playing to the gallery.

Bring out questions and issues that Singaporeans and your constituents have concerns about, and grapevine talk for the Government to address, but avoid unwittingly lending credence to baseless gossip. This will show that you and the Party are in touch with the ground, and speaking up for Singaporeans. Bringing up pertinent issues and questions in a timely manner helps Ministers to put across the facts, explain the reasons for policies and decisions, and maintain public confidence in the openness and integrity of our actions.

Your honest, informed views are an important political input to Ministers when they formulate and review policies. Ministers will accept valid, constructive suggestions, but they have to challenge inaccurate or mistaken views. Over time, the public will see that PAP backbenchers are as effective as opposition MPs, if not better, at holding Ministers to account, getting issues fully debated, and influencing policies for the better.

GIFTS​

You should not accept gifts which might place you under obligations which conflict with your public duties. If you receive any gifts other than from close personal friends or relatives, you must declare them to the Clerk of Parliament who will have the gifts valued. If you wish to keep the gifts, you must pay the Government for them at the valuation price.

FUND-RAISING​

Party Branches should not raise funds on their own without permission, for example by soliciting advertisements for a souvenir magazine or a carnival. If you intend to raise funds, please clear it beforehand with the Organising Secretary. When your branch embarks on a collective fund-raising activity, e.g. a Family Day or Walk-A-Jog, or is offered a donation from a well-wisher or supporter, you must follow the rules strictly.

For constituency and grassroots organisations, you will from time to time need to raise funds, e.g. to build a new community club or to sponsor community events. But even for these non-political purposes, be careful when raising funds and accepting donations. Make an effort to gather multiple small contributions, rather than depending heavily on one or two large donors. Avoid incurring obligations which may expose you to awkward requests later.

FINANCIAL PRUDENCE​

As MPs, you should manage your personal financial affairs prudently. Do not over-extend yourself or become financially embarrassed. This would be not only a potential source of personal embarrassment, but also a weakness which may expose you to pressure or blackmail.

In particular, be careful about making major financial commitments assuming that you will continue to receive your MP’s allowance. While MPs typically serve several terms, you cannot assume that you will automatically be fielded in future General Elections, or that if fielded you will definitely be re-elected. There is neither tenure nor job security in politics.

DIRECTORSHIPS​

MPs are often invited to serve on the Boards of private and publicly listed companies. This is a sign that the private sector values PAP MPs’ integrity and experience, and reflects the high standing of PAP MPs in general. The Party permits MPs to serve as directors, provided you keep your private and public responsibilities rigorously separate, and your private appointments do not compromise your duties and performance as an MP.

The public will closely scrutinise your involvement in companies, because you are a PAP MP. Conduct your business activities so as to bring credit to yourself and to the Party. Adverse publicity on your performance as a director, or lapses in the companies you are associated with, will tarnish your reputation as an MP and lower public regard for the Party.

You should not solicit Directorships in any companies, lest you appear to be exploiting your political position to benefit yourself.

You should not accept directorships where your role is just to dress up the board with a PAP MP or two, in order to make the company look respectable.

Some grassroots leaders are businessmen who own or manage companies. You should not sit on any boards of companies owned or chaired by grassroots leaders appointed by you, so as to avoid the perception that you are obligated to them or advancing their business interests.

If you are offered a Directorship, you have to decide for yourself whether to accept. The Party is not in a position to vet or approve such decisions. Before accepting, consider the possible impact of the Directorship on your political life. Ensure that the company understands that you are doing so strictly in your private capacity, and will not use your public position to champion its interests, or lobby the government on its behalf.

Make every effort to familiarise yourself with the business, track record and background of the key promoters of the company. Satisfy yourself that the company is reputable, and that you have a meaningful contribution to make. Specifically, just like anyone else contemplating a Directorship, you should ask yourself:

  1. How well do you know the company, its business strategy, financial status, shareholding structure and the underlying industry?
  2. Do you know your fellow directors, the way the Board and its committees fulfil their responsibilities, the reporting structure between Board and Management and the relationship between shareholders and the company?
  3. Do you have sufficient industry, financial or professional expertise to fulfil your expected role and responsibilities as a Director? Do you understand your obligations under the law and the Code of Corporate Governance? Will you be able to discharge your fiduciary duties properly and without fear or favour?
  4. Will you face any conflicts of interest, and if so can you manage them?
If in any doubt, you should decline.

DECLARATION OF DIRECTORSHIPS AND INCOME​

For your own protection, every MP should disclose to me, in confidence, your directorships, business and professional interests, your latest employment and monthly pay, all retainers and fees that you are receiving, and whether your job requires you to get in touch with officers of Government Ministries or statutory boards on behalf of employers or clients. Detailed reporting requirements are listed in the Annex. This should be done by 28 August 2020. Office holders need not do so because you are subject to the reporting requirements of the Code of Conduct for Ministers.

SOCIAL MEDIA​

Social media has become a part of our daily lives. By all means use social media to let the public know about your work, or get to know your views better. Have some fun with the medium and try out different platforms.

However, be mindful you are a public figure elected by your residents. So observe decorum, ensure factual accuracy as this is an absolute requirement for us, and remember every social media post will be permanently associated with you and the Party.

Be honest, empathetic, positive and affirming in all your messages. Know your audience and be sensitive to how they feel. Do not use social media to attack another person.

While social media is another way to connect with people, do not end up in long and extended engagement online. You also need to interact with your residents and attend to their needs in person.

IMPORTANT PUBLIC OCCASIONS​

On certain occasions, like the National Day Parade and the Investiture Ceremony for National Day Awards, the whole Establishment, i.e. the Executive, the Legislature and the Judiciary, will be present. Those who cannot attend must have very good reasons. Those who have accepted the invitation must attend, otherwise they leave empty seats, which does no credit to them or to the Party.

At all public functions and constituency events, punctuality is of paramount importance.

GENERAL BEHAVIOUR​

The PAP has held our position in successive elections because our integrity has never been in doubt, and because we are sensitive to the views and attitudes of the people we represent. MPs must always uphold the high standards of the Party and not have lifestyles or personal conduct which will embarrass themselves and the Party. Any slackening of standards, or show of arrogance or indifference, will erode confidence in the MP, and ultimately in the Party and Government. New MPs can pick up the dos and don’ts from older MPs. Always conduct yourselves with modesty, decorum and dignity, particularly in the media. You must win respect, not popularity, to stay the course.

MEDIA PUBLICITY​

I am releasing a copy of this letter to the media so that the public knows the high standards we demand of PAP MPs.

LEE HSIEN LOONG

cc: Government Whip
The rules of prudence for PAP MPs and Code of conduct for PAP ministers can throw into the dustbin.
 

Scrooball (clone)

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Damage is already done la.

These clowns think they are being clear and transparent by saying they paid for repairs and shit. Imagine this…. They are so fucking rich and out of touch that Sham actually revealed that he spent $500,000 for repairs on a rental! That’s money he will never get back once the tenancy is up.

Some clowns don’t even have $50,000 to do renovation for a house they own!
 

LexLuthor

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I think TCH made a very a good point when he tried to explain the concept of conflict of interests - that many in the Parliament are lawyers and he is not. So why NOT get the CJ or a retired High Court Judge to explain ?

In essence, according to TCH (and later Mambo), two elements have to be present - duty and interest. If one of them is missing, there is no conflict of interests. The recusal removes the element of "duty", and therefore there is no conflict of interests, actual, potential and perceived.

The Ministerial Code is NOT a law, but if our Courts are required to explain the concept of conflict of interests, can we rely on TCH's layman explanation backed by Mambo who is the subject of the review ? If it's not a legal precedent, then what value does it hold ?

Potential Conflict of Interests

The need to recuse oneself from the decision-making implies that a potential conflict of interests is present (or has already arisen). Whether or not the recusal is able to negate the (potential) conflict of interests is another matter, but we can all agree that at that point of time there was already a potential conflict of interests without which a recusal would not have been necessary.

If one really wants to adhere to both the letter and the spirit of the Ministerial Code (and not just the spirit but not the letter), as soon as a potential conflict of interests arises, the prudent person will avoid the transaction altogether. The recusal cures any actual conflict of interests when the transaction is carried through, but it does not prevent the potential conflict of interests from arising. Ironically, it's because a potential conflict of interests arises that you need to recuse yourself.

When you visit Mandai Zoo, you are told NOT to climb over the fence where the tiger is crouching. If you climb over the fence, the tiger might or might NOT attack you. So if you climb over the fence, the potential of being attacked by the tiger arises immediately. What do you do ? You climb over the fence with a gun and two snipers behind your back ? Will that negate the potential of being attacked ? Of course not. It will only ensure that if you are attacked you will still be protected. The prudent way is to avoid climbing over the fence.

Perceived Conflict of Interests

This is even easier to understand. It has absolutely nothing to do with recusal or not. The need to have a Ministerial Review and to devote 5 hours worth of Parliamentary session is SOLID EVIDENCE that there is a perceived conflict of interests. Otherwise, what is the Ministerial Review for if there is NO perceived conflict of interests ? Isn't it because of negative public perception that a Ministerial Review becomes necessary ?
 

ginfreely

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Wow I am in the same league as shanmugan rent out my condo to rent others’ condo/apartment.
I am so proud to be in the same league and did the same thing as doggie @JohnTan ‘s good minister. Not like the others here only know how to open mouth talk cock smear people then act innocent fake righteous, losers with no substance. Pui!
 

tobelightlight

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Whether it is of conflict of interested based on law is inconsequential. The real deal is how the people think it is a conflict of interest.
 

ginfreely

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I am so proud to be in the same league and did the same thing as doggie @JohnTan ‘s good minister. Not like the others here only know how to open mouth talk cock smear people then act innocent fake righteous, losers with no substance. Pui!
Having said that the vital difference is I didn’t have the benefit of a stupid landlord that rented out a property that is much bigger to me at a price that I can rent out my own much smaller property to be able to afford to rent it. I had to rent a much smaller property - albeit a brand new one - and later as the rental market moved up, a worse condition one.
 

ginfreely

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I am so proud to be in the same league and did the same thing as doggie @JohnTan ‘s good minister. Not like the others here only know how to open mouth talk cock smear people then act innocent fake righteous, losers with no substance. Pui!
Many shameless shallow fake righteous do evil act innocent dogs here that looked down on others when they are low life low class criminal bully dogs themselves indeed. Just like busted @countryman that looked down on others growing up poor when their own parents are not even rich hahahahaha.
 

ginfreely

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Having said that the vital difference is I didn’t have the benefit of a stupid landlord that rented out a property that is much bigger to me at a price that I can rent out my own much smaller property to be able to afford to rent it. I had to rent a much smaller property - albeit a brand new one - and later as the rental market moved up, a worse condition one.
But then I shan’t claim to be the expert of high end private property. Options are always few and limited when you are at the low end of private property market. Things may be different for high end properties. I don’t know.
 

ginfreely

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And I am not like those disgusting hdb sinkies that take hundreds of thousands of hdb benefits and then act righteous point finger on others having benefit hahaha
 

ginfreely

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And I am not like those disgusting hdb sinkies that take hundreds of thousands of hdb benefits and then act righteous point finger on others having benefit hahaha
Talk is cheap lah, hdb sinkies should give up their hundreds and thousands of hdb benefits before pointing their finger at others. Is hundreds and thousands of government grant subsidized hdb bto profit little money? Why some hdb sinkies are so privileged to get such huge benefits? Ohh they think they are entitled to benefits? Why am I not privileged and not entitled to such benefits then?
 

ginfreely

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Talk is cheap lah, hdb sinkies should give up their hundreds and thousands of hdb benefits before pointing their finger at others. Is hundreds and thousands of government grant subsidized hdb bto profit little money? Why some hdb sinkies are so privileged to get such huge benefits? Ohh they think they are entitled to benefits? Why am I not privileged and not entitled to such benefits then?
Isn’t it so hypocritical that hdb sinkies getting hundreds and thousands of handouts are crying others are privileged?
 

ginfreely

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But then I shan’t claim to be the expert of high end private property. Options are always few and limited when you are at the low end of private property market. Things may be different for high end properties. I don’t know.
a handout - be it subsidized bto profit from government or free money from rich parents - do make a world of difference when buying private property okay? A big difference between buying small or big, low end or mid tier property meaning big difference in subsequent profit okay? For example I read somewhere in year 2000 - when my small one bedroom condo resale price was $400k - someone bought a terrace house at east coast for $800k and now resold it at near $4m while my condo didn’t even double. But is there anyway I could have bought the $800k terrace house in 2000? No way. And that’s how privileged hdb sinkies gained from hundreds and thousands of handouts. Don’t deny your privileged hdb benefits.
 

ginfreely

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a handout - be it subsidized bto profit from government or free money from rich parents - do make a world of difference when buying private property okay? A big difference between buying small or big, low end or mid tier property meaning big difference in subsequent profit okay? For example I read somewhere in year 2000 - when my small one bedroom condo resale price was $400k - someone bought a terrace house at east coast for $800k and now resold it at near $4m while my condo didn’t even double. But is there anyway I could have bought the $800k terrace house in 2000? No way. And that’s how privileged hdb sinkies gained from hundreds and thousands of handouts. Don’t deny your privileged hdb benefits.
Only people like me from poor family AND get zero privileges and zero hdb benefits are qualified to kpkb indeed
 

ginfreely

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a handout - be it subsidized bto profit from government or free money from rich parents - do make a world of difference when buying private property okay? A big difference between buying small or big, low end or mid tier property meaning big difference in subsequent profit okay? For example I read somewhere in year 2000 - when my small one bedroom condo resale price was $400k - someone bought a terrace house at east coast for $800k and now resold it at near $4m while my condo didn’t even double. But is there anyway I could have bought the $800k terrace house in 2000? No way. And that’s how privileged hdb sinkies gained from hundreds and thousands of handouts. Don’t deny your privileged hdb benefits.
And subsequently when I bought my half million 99 year condo - again with zero handout - freehold condos were selling at least $800k but is there anyway I could have bought? No way. No money no privilege no benefits no nothing means no option okay? No difference from choice of what you study in university indeed.
 

ginfreely

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And subsequently when I bought my half million 99 year condo - again with zero handout - freehold condos were selling at least $800k but is there anyway I could have bought? No way. No money no privilege no benefits no nothing means no option okay? No difference from choice of what you study in university indeed.
And that’s two persons buying at 50:50 sharing and with generous developer rebates in down payment then can afford half million 99 year condo.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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Yes, Vivian did. Good minister Vivian spent about $200k on fixing up the place, which he cannot claim back from SLA. That $200k of home fixing will benefit the next tenant of Ridout once Vivian moves out. It looks like SLA got the last laugh from two Cabinet Ministers not familiar with renting GCBs.
Oso complained abt SNAKES IN AND OUTSIDE HOUSE !!

HOW HONESTl
I speculate that as a senior partner at a top five law firm in SG, he made between $5 million to $8 million a year, before income taxes.
He said he paid 2 mln in income tax
 

ginfreely

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a handout - be it subsidized bto profit from government or free money from rich parents - do make a world of difference when buying private property okay? A big difference between buying small or big, low end or mid tier property meaning big difference in subsequent profit okay? For example I read somewhere in year 2000 - when my small one bedroom condo resale price was $400k - someone bought a terrace house at east coast for $800k and now resold it at near $4m while my condo didn’t even double. But is there anyway I could have bought the $800k terrace house in 2000? No way. And that’s how privileged hdb sinkies gained from hundreds and thousands of handouts. Don’t deny your privileged hdb benefits.
Oh ya I am not that clever. Take me decades to realise some sia suay hdb sinkies here use handout paid by me taxpayers to buy their first private property while looked down on me a virgin from poor family using my own hard earned clear shit job money and bonus to buy my first private property. And these sia suay sinkie traitor dogs got the cheek to smear and harass me a virgin as slut whore mistress. Pui!
 

ginfreely

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Oh ya I am not that clever. Take me decades to realise some sia suay hdb sinkies here use handout paid by me taxpayers to buy their first private property while looked down on me a virgin from poor family using my own hard earned clear shit job money and bonus to buy my first private property. And these sia suay sinkie traitor dogs got the cheek to smear and harass me a virgin as slut whore mistress. Pui!
It’s good that I am not that clever and that’s why I blur blur very happy when I bought my first private property. No bitterness no nothing. Just like I blur blur grow up poor but happy indeed.
 

JohnTan

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Damage is already done la.

These clowns think they are being clear and transparent by saying they paid for repairs and shit. Imagine this…. They are so fucking rich and out of touch that Sham actually revealed that he spent $500,000 for repairs on a rental! That’s money he will never get back once the tenancy is up.

Some clowns don’t even have $50,000 to do renovation for a house they own!

Who are those clowns? Most sinkies spend easily $50k to do reno for their BTOs, including muuds. That's how good PAP has been to sinkies.
 
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