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Look what I found, Dr Ong CT aka Fang ZhiYuan posted this on his FB
"Fang Zhi Yuan: Is it necessary to expose him?"
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Interesting Story on Wayang Party...
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Look what I found, Dr Ong CT aka Fang ZhiYuan posted this on his FB
"Fang Zhi Yuan: Is it necessary to expose him?"
The "former member" did not speak up for JO. In fact, he was trying to distance himself and TR from JO.
Correction. He was trying to distance JO from TR. And save face at the same time.
I had wanted to leave this chap alone and felt he did some good running TR and was pitiful enough, but his compulsive lying is getting on my nerves. Stop the nonsensical and imaginary stories, fighting police, and continue to do what you do best. Nothing is going to save your credibility no matter how you invent stories. The only way is to keep quiet and do what you do best and hopefully people stop talking about JO one day.
Amazing how the JO incident made the whole TR "gang" do what they had not done since the start - "reveal" and "expose" the actual "strength", "slate" and "history" of the "people" behind TR just because an ex-founder was exposed - yet people believe it.
"They" will tell you "they" felt compelled to do so now because "their" reputation is at stake.
All along TR has done is reducing others' reputations into tatters because of their stories without facts and basis. Coupled that some stories are real, "they" got the high from responses and started getting personal by dishing all the personal info of others and think "they" can get away with it because no one knows who "they" are
And you are right, All their actual strength, slate, history, who and who, so and so are all revealed in an effort to smoke everyone, those who really believe must have just read TR.
I think they poo-ed without cleaning up the mess. The below page shows that the list of editors and writers were different from the ones he listed in his latest stories.
http://www.theonlinecorpitiam.com/wayangparty/?page_id=14
The "Lim Siow Kuan" was one close to "Eugene" and "Fang" because he was their Malaysia correspondent, covering a lot of Malaysia news at one time. At one time, WYP was only a anti-WP + Malaysia news site. Where this "Lim" supposedly played a role. Yet "they" forgot him in their invention.
"Cheng Siew Peng" was the other "female" correspondent that "they" proudly flaunted. Even getting "her" to write an article on why women wouldn't join NSP to spite GMS.
Also, "Fang Zhi Yuan" went from "Fung Chee Yuen" to "Fong Chee Yen" by JBJ's funeral, then became a China citizen. The funniest thing isn't the inability to spell his name or changing his place of birth (and his own life history in the process) but no one telling this guy that China people do not have dialect names spelt in English alphabets.
The problem is when you tell so many lies, you forget the lies you tell. And then he continues to lie, exposing even more. Goodness the doctor needs a doctor himself. Still unrepentant but refuse to end this.
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He has come to the realisation that people will continue to believe even if the lies are blatant and the whole thing does not make sense. Human ego is fragile, it will not be easy to admit that they got it wrong.
The opposition has to be mindful not to endorse, encourage or remain silent when their material appears. Guilt by association even when no explicit consent is given, is considered tacit approval with time.
He has now dragged NSP into it and it will not be healthy. When push came to shove, he quickly despatched a hamper to Seng and agreed with the minister Lui and and blamed the online netizens for their insensitivity. This is despite he stoking the fire in the initial stages.
He has a number of options from hereon;
1) Carry good material and have a balanced view yet be critical. For this he would have to reveal himself to his contributors to get long term commitment. I don't think he will do this as there are number of lawsuits awaiting.
2) Continue to sensationalise events by embellishing them and cite netizens as his source and thus place the blame on the source when it hits the fan. This is something that will continue to garner page hit and the easiest thing to do.
3) Close the site. He has been obsessed for the past 6 years doing this and I don't think he can help himself. Stalking is time intensive and only a whacko has the energy to do it. This guy setup 3 sites by himself and 1 site by collaborating with people who did not know his name. 4 sites is not easily done and clearly shows unusual amount of energy not to mention the online cyber-taunting and fights.
My sense is option 2 as there are enough gullible people and those who are not with the govt will also enjoy it. I note is that he has avoided directly taking on a Minister whereas he was happily slandering members of the opposition. So in a way, it does help the govt cause.
The opposition has to be mindful not to endorse, encourage or remain silent when their material appears. Guilt by association even when no explicit consent is given, is considered tacit approval with time.
He has now dragged NSP into it and it will not be healthy. When push came to shove, he quickly despatched a hamper to Seng and agreed with the minister Lui and and blamed the online netizens for their insensitivity. This is despite he stoking the fire in the initial stages.
He has a number of options from hereon;
1) Carry good material and have a balanced view yet be critical. For this he would have to reveal himself to his contributors to get long term commitment. I don't think he will do this as there are number of lawsuits awaiting.
2) Continue to sensationalise events by embellishing them and cite netizens as his source and thus place the blame on the source when it hits the fan. This is something that will continue to garner page hit and the easiest thing to do.
3) Close the site. He has been obsessed for the past 6 years doing this and I don't think he can help himself. Stalking is time intensive and only a whacko has the energy to do it. This guy setup 3 sites by himself and 1 site by collaborating with people who did not know his name. 4 sites is not easily done and clearly shows unusual amount of energy not to mention the online cyber-taunting and fights.
My sense is option 2 as there are enough gullible people and those who are not with the govt will also enjoy it. I note is that he has avoided directly taking on a Minister whereas he was happily slandering members of the opposition. So in a way, it does help the govt cause.
Do you have any of your usual juicy insider gossip on who is going to sue?
TR shows no sign of backing down.
TRs editorial team rejects TNP journalist Ms. Ng coffee session invitation
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/1...s-journalist-ms-ng-coffee-session-invitation/
Further to our official reply to the misleading article by Ms. Ng Wan Ching which was published in The New Paper on 9th October 2010 (Temasek Review’s response to TNP’s misleading article), the same journalist has extended an invitation to the editorial team of Temasek Review to a “coffee session” at The New Paper’s office.
In 2 separate emails dated 11th October 2010 addressed to the Managing Editor of Temasek Review, Ms. Ng wrote:
Email #1 @ 1606 hours Singapore time
Hi, I am interested in one of your postings where you detailed who started Temasek Review and what their individual roles were.
In the interest of accurate reporting, I am requesting a meeting with all the persons named in the posting – “Eugene, me (admin04), Amanda and Damon”.
Please email me regarding the best time for this meeting. The New Paper is also offering its premises for the meeting.
Ng Wan Ching
[email protected]
Email #2 @ 1723 Singapore time
Hi, further to my original request, I am asking now to meet with the members of the current editorial board for Temasek Review.
Please email me with the best times to meet.
We are our premises for the meeting.
Ng Wan Ching
[email protected]
After some discussion, the editorial team of Temasek Review voted unanimously to reject Ms. Ng’s kind invitation and to reply to her email on our site instead of by return email which may be “misunderstood” and/or “misrepresented” by the “spin doctors” at Singapore Press Holdings.
We publish below our official reply to her invitation:
Dear Ms. Ng Wan Ching
We thank you for your kind invitation to a “coffee session” at your good office which unfortunately, we have to reject due to the following reasons and concerns.
1. Many of us have been away from Singapore for quite some time and we heard that Singapore has changed tremendously over the years with many new Singaporeans and Foreign Talents “running the show”, example: most public transport companies now employ these “talents” to drive their buses and taxis.
We have heard from one of our readers (from UK) who reflected that once he took a taxi from Jurong wanting to go to Orchard Road but ended up at the Botanic Garden instead. When he confronted the taxi driver, the taxi driver claims to not be able to understand English very well and thought that the reader had actually wanted to look at “Orchids” and thus he drove him to the Botanic Garden.
It is for this same concern that we are worried a simple trip from the airport to your good office might “accidentally” ended up with us being taken to the Whitley Detention Centre due to communication problem with the taxi driver.
2. Although our acquaintances in Singapore Press Holdings have attested to the excellent coffee served to journalists and guests, we also heard that the coffee served at Whitley Detention Centre “sucks” big time. We certainly are not looking forward to drinking coffee that “sucks” should we be accidentally driven to the Whitley Detention Centre due to the failure of the taxi driver to understand simple English.
3. We also further heard that the people at Whitley Detention Centre are very “friendly and hospitable”. According to an acquaintance of ours Mr. Francis, the last time he was there, the people at the centre were so “delighted and honored” with his presence that they insisted he prolong his “visit” and stay with them for half a year, food and lodging fully provided for. He was even allocated a “big executive suite”.
Embarrassing as it may be to even mention, most of us at Temasek Review are not as well paid as journalist working for Singapore Press Holdings. We have a family to feed where we are based right now. We also have to contribute part of our salaries to Temasek Review to sustain it and cannot afford to take a long leave of absence from our editorial role in Temasek Review as we do not employ “spin doctors” due to financial constrains. We have to practically do our own research, fact findings and due diligence on our articles instead of relying on “spin doctors” to spin one or the relevant agencies to “feed” us.
Although we have quite a few authors, contributors and moderators, they are not involved in the administration aspect of Temasek Review and therefore an accidental detour to Whitley Detention Centre and a prolonged “holidaying” stay in Singapore will effectively destroy Temasek Review, something which many of our readers would not want to see happen.
As you already know, Temasek Review is a non-profit site setup to provide space for columnists and reader comments from across the political spectrum to foster, facilitate and promote serious debate and discourse for true blue Singaporeans.
Million thanks to our readers and people like you (for the free advertising), we are able to make Temasek Review one of the TOP socio-political blog in Singapore. We owe it to our readers to ensure our site’s stability, accessibility and readability at all times, thus taking a leave for a “coffee session or holiday” in Singapore is not an option for the time being.
However, we are not ruling out the possibility of meeting you or your colleague in the future, for a “coffee session” on the Moon or even on the International Space Station if we have time and Singapore Press Holdings agrees to sponsor the “air fare”.
Before we pen off, we again reiterate that Temasek Review is now under a new management and not related in anyway to the “old guards” of Wayang Party. We are not in contact with them and therefore your request for contact information for “Eugene, me (admin04), Amanda and Damon” is something we cannot provide even if we want to. You might want to pay a visit to Sammyboy’s forum by Sam Leong (Millionaire Pornographic Webmaster) as we understand that some of them are still “contributing” there.
Thank you and regards.
Amanda Tan
for Temasek Review
TRs editorial team rejects TNP journalist Ms. Ng coffee session invitation
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/1...s-journalist-ms-ng-coffee-session-invitation/
Further to our official reply to the misleading article by Ms. Ng Wan Ching which was published in The New Paper on 9th October 2010 (Temasek Review’s response to TNP’s misleading article), the same journalist has extended an invitation to the editorial team of Temasek Review to a “coffee session” at The New Paper’s office.
In 2 separate emails dated 11th October 2010 addressed to the Managing Editor of Temasek Review, Ms. Ng wrote:
Email #1 @ 1606 hours Singapore time
Hi, I am interested in one of your postings where you detailed who started Temasek Review and what their individual roles were.
In the interest of accurate reporting, I am requesting a meeting with all the persons named in the posting – “Eugene, me (admin04), Amanda and Damon”.
Please email me regarding the best time for this meeting. The New Paper is also offering its premises for the meeting.
Ng Wan Ching
[email protected]
Email #2 @ 1723 Singapore time
Hi, further to my original request, I am asking now to meet with the members of the current editorial board for Temasek Review.
Please email me with the best times to meet.
We are our premises for the meeting.
Ng Wan Ching
[email protected]
After some discussion, the editorial team of Temasek Review voted unanimously to reject Ms. Ng’s kind invitation and to reply to her email on our site instead of by return email which may be “misunderstood” and/or “misrepresented” by the “spin doctors” at Singapore Press Holdings.
We publish below our official reply to her invitation:
Dear Ms. Ng Wan Ching
We thank you for your kind invitation to a “coffee session” at your good office which unfortunately, we have to reject due to the following reasons and concerns.
1. Many of us have been away from Singapore for quite some time and we heard that Singapore has changed tremendously over the years with many new Singaporeans and Foreign Talents “running the show”, example: most public transport companies now employ these “talents” to drive their buses and taxis.
We have heard from one of our readers (from UK) who reflected that once he took a taxi from Jurong wanting to go to Orchard Road but ended up at the Botanic Garden instead. When he confronted the taxi driver, the taxi driver claims to not be able to understand English very well and thought that the reader had actually wanted to look at “Orchids” and thus he drove him to the Botanic Garden.
It is for this same concern that we are worried a simple trip from the airport to your good office might “accidentally” ended up with us being taken to the Whitley Detention Centre due to communication problem with the taxi driver.
2. Although our acquaintances in Singapore Press Holdings have attested to the excellent coffee served to journalists and guests, we also heard that the coffee served at Whitley Detention Centre “sucks” big time. We certainly are not looking forward to drinking coffee that “sucks” should we be accidentally driven to the Whitley Detention Centre due to the failure of the taxi driver to understand simple English.
3. We also further heard that the people at Whitley Detention Centre are very “friendly and hospitable”. According to an acquaintance of ours Mr. Francis, the last time he was there, the people at the centre were so “delighted and honored” with his presence that they insisted he prolong his “visit” and stay with them for half a year, food and lodging fully provided for. He was even allocated a “big executive suite”.
Embarrassing as it may be to even mention, most of us at Temasek Review are not as well paid as journalist working for Singapore Press Holdings. We have a family to feed where we are based right now. We also have to contribute part of our salaries to Temasek Review to sustain it and cannot afford to take a long leave of absence from our editorial role in Temasek Review as we do not employ “spin doctors” due to financial constrains. We have to practically do our own research, fact findings and due diligence on our articles instead of relying on “spin doctors” to spin one or the relevant agencies to “feed” us.
Although we have quite a few authors, contributors and moderators, they are not involved in the administration aspect of Temasek Review and therefore an accidental detour to Whitley Detention Centre and a prolonged “holidaying” stay in Singapore will effectively destroy Temasek Review, something which many of our readers would not want to see happen.
As you already know, Temasek Review is a non-profit site setup to provide space for columnists and reader comments from across the political spectrum to foster, facilitate and promote serious debate and discourse for true blue Singaporeans.
Million thanks to our readers and people like you (for the free advertising), we are able to make Temasek Review one of the TOP socio-political blog in Singapore. We owe it to our readers to ensure our site’s stability, accessibility and readability at all times, thus taking a leave for a “coffee session or holiday” in Singapore is not an option for the time being.
However, we are not ruling out the possibility of meeting you or your colleague in the future, for a “coffee session” on the Moon or even on the International Space Station if we have time and Singapore Press Holdings agrees to sponsor the “air fare”.
Before we pen off, we again reiterate that Temasek Review is now under a new management and not related in anyway to the “old guards” of Wayang Party. We are not in contact with them and therefore your request for contact information for “Eugene, me (admin04), Amanda and Damon” is something we cannot provide even if we want to. You might want to pay a visit to Sammyboy’s forum by Sam Leong (Millionaire Pornographic Webmaster) as we understand that some of them are still “contributing” there.
Thank you and regards.
Amanda Tan
for Temasek Review
The reply by itself is nothing very interesting unless you are a regular TR reader/fan.
What is interesting is the complete lack of fear and the repeated provocation.
You are deluding yourself again.
The only thing TR is good in is twisting words in articles to enable them to create a story. Of course "they" have to put up a brave front to show that they do not fear, but slowly you will see how "toned down" the articles will become
I must admit though, even crap sites have their fan boys and girls. :p
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Because over here got the most backlash compared to other forum communities and websites. :p
Here is a gist of the long piece by Joe Amanda Ong
- that there is a team and it is based overseas
- wayangparty.com not associated with them but with old guards
Note the shot at Sam's site. Looks like we are still giving him heartburn. Maybe I should put up a chronology of how he started and the various adventures that he took. Ng Wang Ching might to have a chat with her SPF colleague Peh Shing Huei on this chap.
- that there is a team and it is based overseas
- wayangparty.com not associated with them but with old guards
Note the shot at Sam's site. Looks like we are still giving him heartburn. Maybe I should put up a chronology of how he started and the various adventures that he took. Ng Wang Ching might to have a chat with her SPF colleague Peh Shing Huei on this chap.
I think that will be very useful. I hope TNP will fire back with another fierce piece against TR. If things are allowed to stand as they are, the Sg MSM looks very impotent and lame.
Joseph is just trying to throw some smoke bomb. I am not any Eugene Yeo. He is just trying to pin all the blame on one of the monikor of his.
Strange that he should mentioned all the admin except Andrew Pang, who was the "web admin" in Wayang Party. Also, there are so many monikers that he had totally forgotten about a "Manisha Kumari" appointed "managing editor" on 16 Sep 2009, but was never mentioned by BK or Molina. Although TR had deleted this announcement from their website, fortunately we still got google cache to dig out some archive.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...iew&cd=1&hl=fi&ct=clnk&gl=fi&client=firefox-a
I think he is on prozac at the moment as he more and composed unlike when he first began especially the stalking and the constant harassment of TOC.
Joseph is just trying to throw some smoke bomb. I am not any Eugene Yeo. He is just trying to pin all the blame on one of the monikor of his.
Strange that he should mentioned all the admin except Andrew Pang, who was the "web admin" in Wayang Party. Also, there are so many monikers that he had totally forgotten about a "Manisha Kumari" appointed "managing editor" on 16 Sep 2009, but was never mentioned by BK or Molina. Although TR had deleted this announcement from their website, fortunately we still got google cache to dig out some archive.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...iew&cd=1&hl=fi&ct=clnk&gl=fi&client=firefox-a
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