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  1. RiverOL

    RiverOL Alfrescian Old Timer

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    One Day at A Time

    One day at a time, with its failures and fears,
    With its hurts and mistakes, with its weakness and tears,
    With its portion of pain and its burden of care;
    One day at a time we must meet and must bear.

    One day at a time to be patient and strong;
    To be calm under trial and sweet under wrong;
    Then its toiling shall pass and its sorrow shall cease;
    It shall darken and die, and the night shall bring peace.

    ( To be continued )
     
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    One day at a time — but the day is so long,
    And the heart is not brave, and the soul is not strong,
    O Thou pitiful Christ, be Thou near all the way;
    Give courage and patience and strength for the day.

    Swift cometh His answer, so clear and so sweet;
    "Yea, I will be with thee, thy troubles to meet;
    I will not forget thee, nor fail thee, nor grieve;
    I will not forsake thee; I never will leave."

    ( To be continued )
     
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    Not yesterday's load we are called on to bear,
    Nor the morrow's uncertain and shadowy care;
    Why should we look forward or back with dismay?
    Our needs, as our mercies, are but for the day.

    One day at a time, and the day is His day;
    He hath numbered its hours, though they haste or delay.
    His grace is sufficient; we walk not alone;
    As the day, so the strength that He giveth His own.

    End.
     
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    Watch your tongue!


    The tongue weighs practically nothing, but so few people can hold it. James 3:1-12

    Great minds discuss ideas;
    Average minds discuss events;
    Small minds discuss people.

    He who loses money, loses much;
    He who loses a friend, loses more;
    He who loses faith, loses all.

    Friends are a very rare jewel, indeed. They make you smile and encourage you to succeed. They lend an ear they share a word of praise, and they always want to open their hearts to us.
     
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    The best way to cheer yourself up is to cheer somebody else up.
     
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    A man was polishing his new car; his 4 yr old daughter picked up a stone and scratched on the side of the car. In anger, the furious Man took his child’s hand & hit it many times, not realizing he was using a wrench. At the hospital, the child lost some of her fingers due to multiple fractures.

    When the child saw her father, with painful eyes she asked ‘Dad when will my fingers grow back?’ The man was so hurt and speechless. He went back to the car and kicked it many times. Devastated by his own actions, sitting in front of the car he looked at the scratches, His daughter had written ‘LOVE YOU DAD’.

    Moral: Remember, Anger and Love have no limit. Always remember that “Things are to be used and people are to be loved”. But the problem in today’s world is that “People are being used & Things are being loved”.

    ' In your anger, do not sin '
     
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    There was a preacher who had a church in a small town in the South. The climate was warm most of the time. He had been here all of his life so when he got a letter from another Church looking for a Pastor he was intrigued.

    This Church needed a Pastor and was located in the upper mid-west. He prayed for God's guidance in this matter as he did with most things. After about two weeks he had decided to take the position, so he called a family meeting with his wife and four children. He explained to them how he felt that this was the will of God. As always they supported his decision.

    When he and his family arrived at the new location they were met by the Church Deacons and their wives. It seemed as if this was where he belonged.

    The first Sunday the Church was packed and continued to be every Sunday until winter set in. The nights were bitter cold and the days were not much better. There was over two feet of snow on the ground and getting around was near impossible. Cars and trucks were out, the only way to get anywhere was by sleigh or on foot.

    The Church was caught in a financial bind because there was little attendance in winter so they had asked the new Pastor if he could wait until spring to get paid. Being a man of God he agreed.

    This meant that he and his family would have to become very careful about spending. This Pastor and his wife were dealing with the situation fairly well until Christmas. They had four children who were going to be very disappointed on Christmas morning. You see with no money coming in and no way to travel to a larger community to shop, it meant no gifts. This also meant that the food would run out soon. They would all have to survive on what little food was in the house.

    Then about a week before Christmas things became worse. The Church told him that because the weather was worst this year than ever they were going to suspend church services all together until the middle of spring. This meant that he and his family would have to get by with little else than faith.

    He became very discouraged and began to question God for allowing him to move here. Then he and his wife began to have arguments about being here and because they now were stuck here with no way out until the snow melted. They were in one of these argument when he received a message that one of the Church members was ill.

    He told his wife that he must go and left on the five mile walk to the house of the one person that he dreaded most to visit. The man was a total pain and was one who was never happy, he was the one who complained every Sunday about something. After his long walk in the snow he arrived at the house and was shown in. He ask about the mans health and was shown into the room where the man was in bed. Never once was he offered anything to help warm him up after the long walk not even a cup of tea. After having prayer with the man he started his long walk home, he knew it would be almost dark when he arrived.

    When he arrived he was met by his wife and a warm cup of coffee. He told his wife that he was sorry that he had ask her to come to this place. He went into his small study and began to pray to God and ask why he had been abandoned. He felt as though God had forgotten him and his family. He was angry and began to tell God that if he every got away from here he would never serve him again.

    He was ready to tell his wife about his decision when there was a knock on the door, it was the Store keeper from town, he was also the mail man and because of the weather he could not find help so he would deliver mail after closing the store. He had four big boxes on the back of his sleigh that he explained had arrived today for them. After helping unload them he left after wishing them merry Christmas.

    There was a note in an envelope with one of the boxes; it read :'we thought that since you were not use to cold weather this might help.' It was from the small southern town he had left, and there was also a check from some fellow pastors they said that God had lead them to send this so use it as God intended. Inside the boxes were clothes and gifts for the children. He broke down right there and began to cry, his wife thought that it was because he was glad and that god had delivered them, but it was because he had lost faith and was ashamed of himself.

    He explained to his wife that he had given up on God and how he had quit because he felt abandoned. He then went back into the study and asked forgiveness for what he had said and asked God to continue to use him. He gave thanks for the gift that he had received, not the package that arrived but the gift of forgiveness.
     
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    Know God, No Peace



    So Joshua conquered the entire region – the hill country, the Negev, the land of Goshen, the western foothills, the Jordan Valley, and the mountains and lowlands of Israel. The Israelite territory now extended all the way from Mount Halak, which leads up to Seir, to Baal-gad at the foot of Mount Hermon in the valley of Lebanon. Joshua killed all the kings of those territories, waging war for a long time to accomplish this. No one in this region made peace with the Israelites except the Hivites of Gibeon. All the others were defeated. For the LORD hardened their hearts and caused them to fight the Israelites instead of asking for peace. So they were completely and mercilessly destroyed, as the LORD had commanded Moses. (Joshua 11:16-20 NLT)
     
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    Wa, so violent! I thought God is so full of love that He nearly choked on it!:p
     
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    Nehemiah 8

    "... the joy of the Lord is your strength." (v.10)

    Joy is part of a Christian's armor. Jealousy, for example, can quickly find a lodging place in a heart which is unsatisfied. The joy of Jesus banishes all that. This particular fruit of the Spirit secures us from the sins which can so easily beset us. Brimming joy, for example, helps to cancel out any envy that may arise within us. Instead, our souls long to share the treasures that we ourselves have found.

    Joy keeps us alert and alive spiritually. Disease germs, we are told, penetrate most easily into a body debilitated by despondency. So do the termites of the spirit. They enter without ceremony and eat away the health of the soul. Joy gives them no room. It immunizes the spirit against attack. Joy is not just the bloom of health; it is its protection also. Remember, you are made for joy and if there is not joy in your life, then there is something wrong: joy is being blocked. Clear away the blocks and joy comes automatically.

    If you are conscious that you lack this deep abiding joy, then look within. Ask yourself: how close am I to God? What steps do I need to take to deepen my relationship with Him? Give yourself to Him fully. If He is to transfer to you His total joy, then He must have the total you. A garage has a sign: "Limp in -- leap out." That's what will happen to you when you surrender yourself fully to Him. You will limp in and leap out. God is not withholding Himself and you must not withhold yourself. Where the two meet, joy is inevitable.
     
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    The bible needs to be read in the context 2000 to 3000 years ago. During that period, the jews were not a civilized race(yet). But the israelite God got improved himself in the new testament, you find a less violent god in the NT...But again look at the troubles and millions of lives killed in the name of religion in the world after Jesus came, you would not disagree with me that God needs a 2nd round of self improvement;)

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    More Violence and Inhumanity -Baby Bashing



    "Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." Psalms 137:9 NAB
     
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    Saul’s Kindness



    Saul sent this message to the Kenites: "Move away from where the Amalekites live or else you will die with them. For you were kind to the people of Israel when they came up from Egypt." So the Kenites packed up and left. Then Saul slaughtered the Amalekites from Havilah all the way to Shur, east of Egypt. (1 Samuel 15:6-7 NLT)
     
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    If that is the case, what is so great about the bible then? You dont see aesops fables (even older than the bible) teaching to kill children or smash their heads.
     
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    A word with a great history
    Philippians 4:1-9
    "... the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds ..." (v.7)

    We pass now from considering love and joy to the third fruit of the Spirit -- peace. The order is an inspired one: first, love -- love is preeminent; then joy -- joy comes as a result of love; and then peace -- peace is joy grown quiet and assured. A preacher once drew a comparison between joy and peace: "Joy is peace with its hat thrown high in the air and peace is joy with its arms folded in serene assurance." How beautiful!William Barclay says that the word "peace" (Greek: eiriene) came into the New Testament with a great history. It is a translation of the Hebrew word shalom, meaning peace. In classical Greek, "peace" was mainly negative, implying freedom from war or hostilities, but in the New Testament, the word gathers up positive elements such as are seen in shalom. The central meaning is serenity and harmony. "Peace" occurs eighty-eight times in the New Testament, and it appears in every book. This makes the New Testament a book of peace.
    The peace of which we are speaking here is not something that can be manufactured. We cannot make it -- any more than we can make the other fruit of the Spirit. It is divinely and supernaturally given -- a glorious consequence of God's presence in the soul. Jesus knew this kind of peace and He offers the same serenity to every one of His disciples: "My peace I give to you ... Let not your hearts be disquieted or timid" (John 14:27, Moffatt). Remember this -- when you remain in Him, you have access to a peace that not only passes understanding -- but all misunderstanding also.
     
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    The world we live today would be more peaceful and harmonious if there is no bible and no koran. Period ;)

    The bible regardless of being read in the right context or wrong context, correct interpretation or wrong interpretation can be a highly abusable and therefore dangerous book(in the wrong hands). It can be abused for GENOCIDE, WAR, SEX, RAPE, INCEST, VIRGIN CAPTURE, SLAVERY, PROSPERITY AND TITHING.
     
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    whahahahahaha.....

    ;)
     
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    Then such abuse is not restricted to the Bible alone, so why are you so fixated on singling out the Bible for attack? Sheer anti-Christian bigotry.
     
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    Paul wrote in Romans Chapter One, "But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness. They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles."
     
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    And how would you know that? The atheistic regimes killed millions in the last century alone, betcha don't know that. Abysmally ignorant atheist as usual.
     

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