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Nothing against local rich people, maybe just ageism and xenophobia. If you build your wealth literally from nothing. Congrats, you earn it. Unless, you're sharing your wealth with me. Otherwise, it's time for you to expire in isolation and stop your antics.

These places are literally INFESTED with foreign staff of undesirable quality. I.E: pinoys, malaysians, mostly with tattoos, questionable IQ or character. These places are originally and mostly started by the British, you demented monkeys are running it like a Chinese sweatshop.

I'II start with the more popular CC 1st, the rest you can click and read it yourself.



Tanglin Club's 'toxic' workplace culture under scrutiny after member allegedly abused employee​


The private club's general manager resigned in 2023 over alleged verbal abuse by a general committee member, according to an internal report.​
Tanglin Club's 'toxic' workplace culture under scrutiny after member allegedly abused employee

Tanglin Club was founded in 1865. (File photo: Facebook/Tanglin Club)

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27 Jan 2025 08:13PM(Updated: 30 Jan 2025 11:50PM)
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SINGAPORE: Tanglin Club's "toxic" workplace culture is facing scrutiny by members after an allegation of staff abuse that contributed to the departure of the club's general manager.
Founded in 1865, the private members' club has more than 4,000 members and about 200 employees.

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On Jun 28, 2023, Tanglin Club's general manager David Brightling was allegedly on the receiving end of verbal abuse from a member of its general committee.
Mr Brightling resigned on Sep 27, 2023. He said that "a toxic work environment" was the main "push" factor, according to internal documents seen by CNA.
The general manager was also headhunted to manage a private members' club in Hong Kong and left to take up that position.
The member involved was removed from the general committee after a vote called by the club's president Chong Zhi Cheng on Oct 16, 2023.
The vote was called on the basis that his alleged verbal tirade breached club rules that no member of the club shall "reprimand or abuse" any member of the staff.
An independent review committee was tasked to look into the removal of the member in question on Jan 30, 2024.
After investigating, the review committee found that the alleged abuse did take place, according to its report dated May 23, 2024.

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According to Mr Brightling, he sent an email on Jun 28, 2023, about the club's gym. The review committee's report indicated that this was because a member had been seen "moving the exercise bicycles around".
Mr Brightling then received a phone call from the member in question, calling him to a meeting later that day. The member had allegedly taken issue with being accused and named in the email.
The review committee found that Mr Brightling was clear in his evidence that the member used the words "evil", "incompetent" and "stupid" towards him at this meeting.
The general manager was also shouted at over the phone, and had the phone "banged down" on him by the member in question.
Together with the verbal abuse, this constituted "plainly abusive conduct", the review committee comprising three ordinary club members found.
In a statutory declaration, the general manager stated that in almost three years working at the club, he had come across "many incidents" of harassment and bullying.

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He said the Jun 28, 2023 incident was "certainly the most egregious example" in his entire career.

Mr Brightling's observation of a "toxic" work culture at Tanglin Club was also supported by others the committee interviewed, who said that staff, including management, were "afraid" of members.
If a club member misbehaved, staff would purportedly tend not to make a formal complaint, but inform their head of department and let their manager handle the matter, or simply resign.
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This affected staff morale and cost the club in terms of staff turnover and replacement, the review committee said.
They recommended that the club's general committee establish an anti-harassment policy for members and staff, and a way for staff to report abuse without making a direct complaint against a member.
They also suggested having a standard protocol to handle disciplinary complaints against club members to ensure "fairness and transparency", and lay down expected timelines.
The review committee also pointed out that it was a challenge to "get the right people" into the general committee, as only about 300 out of 4,000 members voted in elections.


A greater focus on diversity was needed as members of the general committee "tend anecdotally to be male and older", in their 50s and 60s.
"Work needs to be done to encourage women and younger members to stand for election to the (general committee) and in so doing, to also contribute to the club," the report stated.

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The review committee noted that "factions, cliques and political in-fighting" were affecting working relationships within the general committee, and between the committee and the club's president.
General committee members could consider mediation "or other efforts to heal divisions, rather than exacerbate them", the report stated.
Finally, the review committee recommended exploring the suitability of a code of conduct "to set the right tone and improve the dynamics underlying the relationships at the club".
CNA has reached out to Tanglin Club to ask about the implementation of the review committee's recommendations.
Disputes involving Tanglin Club members have been a source of controversy before.
In 2022, the Straits Times reported that the club's former president Yeoh En Lai had resigned amid questions about his university qualifications.

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Mr Brightling, then the general manager, reportedly made a police report over this.
In 2018, TODAY reported that a member had sued Tanglin Club and its general committee for causing him humiliation and distress after he was subject to disciplinary proceedings.
This reportedly happened after he was accused of sending "offensive and disrespectful emails and WhatsApp messages".


https://www.asiaone.com/lifestyle/5-reasons-why-millennials-stopped-coveting-country-clubs-singapore

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/down-4-cs-why-country-160000738.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35499444

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...ountry-club-president-cancelled-club-politics


 
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Singapore Swimming Club wins appeal to get back $1.5m from former president​

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The Singapore Swimming Club won the appeal to get back $1.5 million in club funds that former president Freddie Koh (pictured) used to defend a defamation suit against him.PHOTO: ST FILE
Selina Lum
PUBLISHED Apr 26, 2016, 07:45 PM


SINGAPORE - In a twist to a long-running saga, the Singapore Swimming Club on Tuesday won an appeal to get back $1.5 million in club funds that former president Freddie Koh used to defend a defamation suit against him.

In a written judgment, the Court of Appeal overturned a High Court decision last year which rejected the club's bid to recover the money. The appeal court ruled that the club was entitled to a refund on grounds that it had paid Mr Koh's legal bills under a mistaken belief, and that Mr Koh had breached his fiduciary duties to the club.

Mr Koh, 70, became club president in May 2008 and was ousted at an extraordinary general meeting in March 2012.


The case stemmed from a defamation suit brought against him in 2009 by four members of the previous committee.

Shortly after Mr Koh was sued, the management committee headed by him passed a resolution, stating that the club will assume liability for legal actions brought against office bearers as a result of them discharging their duties to the club.

Following this resolution, the club bore his legal costs.


In 2011, Mr Koh lost the defamation suit. The Court of Appeal found that he had made the defamatory remarks with malice and that he had been on a "witch hunt" against the plaintiffs.

After this ruling, the club continued to pay Mr Koh's legal bills.

In March 2012, club members voted to remove Mr Koh, to recover the legal costs paid for him and to stop further payment.


He sued the club, arguing that it has to indemnify him for the costs.

The club, represented by Senior Counsel Tan Chee Meng, countersued him for the return of the money it had paid for his legal costs.

The High Court dismissed both claims in 2014. The club appealed.

In its 68-page judgment yesterday, the appeal court accepted Mr Tan's arguments that, prior to the 2011 defamation judgment, the club had paid Mr Koh's bills under a mistaken belief that he was sued as a result of him discharging his duties to the club.

The payments after the defamation judgment were not made under this mistake.

But the court noted that after the defamation ruling, Mr Koh continued to hand over invoices to the club's treasurer and financial controller for payments to be made.

This was despite the fact that the question of whether his legal costs is still covered under the resolution had arisen by then.

"In our view, no responsible president of a club in such a situation should have done so," said the court, finding that he had acted to further his own interests rather than that of the club.

 
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Good for reading.

However, Selina Lum didn't do a good job at reporting.

Cannot find good legal correspondents?
 
Tiagong Freddie was a pilot.

Tiagong tio sued until bankrupt because he could not pay the $1.52m in damages.
 
Tiagong Freddie was a pilot.

Tiagong tio sued until bankrupt because he could not pay the $1.52m in damages.
His property was sold to pay them off. I wouldn't be smiling like that if I am bankrupt. Either he's demented or hidden some assets.
 
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These places are literally INFESTED with foreign staff of undesirable quality. I.E: pinoys, malaysians, mostly with tattoos, questionable IQ or character.

You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Only those FTs would work for the pittance there. :biggrin:
 
As for toxic work cultures, I have seen many instances at publicly-listed companies, SMEs, non-profit organizations and even private clubs. A lot of the abuse is perpetuated not by High SES individuals, but low life who are power hungry.
 
I have been a member of Tanglin Club for decades, and seen more young SPGs there on the arms of elderly Caucasian club members than anywhere else in S'pore.
Do you think if the pimps approach them for solicitation have a better chance of "sales"?

Second, are you one of those geezers who like to take power trips from time to time? (I don;t mean member to staff , but more like member to member. Coz I understand cognitive functions decline with age. This is a biological fact, coz you dont see a 20 or 30 yr old with dementia)
 
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Do you think if the pimps approach them for solicitation have a better chance of "sales"? Second, are you one of those geezers who like to take power trips from time to time? (I don;t mean member to staff , but more like member to member. Coz I understand cognitive functions decline with age. This is a biological fact, coz you dont see a 20 or 30 yr old with dementia)
I have seen low SES managers at Tanglin Club lord it over their subordinates (staff) more than the senior club members to each other.
 
I have been a member of Tanglin Club for decades, and seen more young SPGs there on the arms of elderly Caucasian club members than anywhere else in S'pore.
Like that mean culture very inclusive and has good diversity mah
 
I have seen low SES managers at Tanglin Club lord it over their subordinates (staff) more than the senior club members to each other.
Guess each club has their own brand of toxicity. In SSC, it goes both ways. My lord, it is beyond cringe. The management staff probably trained by the committee to have a unique brand of patronising quality. Fuck the foreigners over there and demented committee members.
 
I don't even have to be a member. One of my buddies is a member there and asks me to go there to drink and dine at least 3-4 times a month. All the staff there knows me and I can even bring my own clients there for meeting. Just have to quote my friend's membership number and I'll sign for it by scribbling on the bill.
 
Tanah Merah Country Club is better. A friendlier, newbie-friendly atmosphere. Less snobbish, more like a working class country club.
 
Tanah Merah Country Club is better. A friendlier, newbie-friendly atmosphere. Less snobbish, more like a working class country club.
Tanah Merah is more like Raffles Town Club for the nouveau riche, while SICC and TC are for "old money".
 
Nothing against local rich people, maybe just ageism and xenophobia. If you build your wealth literally from nothing. Congrats, you earn it. Unless, you're sharing your wealth with me. Otherwise, it's time for you to expire in isolation and stop your antics.

These places are literally INFESTED with foreign staff of undesirable quality. I.E: pinoys, malaysians, mostly with tattoos, questionable IQ or character. These places are originally and mostly started by the British, you demented monkeys are running it like a Chinese sweatshop.

I'II start with the more popular CC 1st, the rest you can click and read it yourself.



Tanglin Club's 'toxic' workplace culture under scrutiny after member allegedly abused employee​


The private club's general manager resigned in 2023 over alleged verbal abuse by a general committee member, according to an internal report.​
Tanglin Club's 'toxic' workplace culture under scrutiny after member allegedly abused employee's 'toxic' workplace culture under scrutiny after member allegedly abused employee

Tanglin Club was founded in 1865. (File photo: Facebook/Tanglin Club)

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Davina Tham

27 Jan 2025 08:13PM(Updated: 30 Jan 2025 11:50PM)
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SINGAPORE: Tanglin Club's "toxic" workplace culture is facing scrutiny by members after an allegation of staff abuse that contributed to the departure of the club's general manager.
Founded in 1865, the private members' club has more than 4,000 members and about 200 employees.

ADVERTISEMENT
On Jun 28, 2023, Tanglin Club's general manager David Brightling was allegedly on the receiving end of verbal abuse from a member of its general committee.
Mr Brightling resigned on Sep 27, 2023. He said that "a toxic work environment" was the main "push" factor, according to internal documents seen by CNA.
The general manager was also headhunted to manage a private members' club in Hong Kong and left to take up that position.
The member involved was removed from the general committee after a vote called by the club's president Chong Zhi Cheng on Oct 16, 2023.
The vote was called on the basis that his alleged verbal tirade breached club rules that no member of the club shall "reprimand or abuse" any member of the staff.
An independent review committee was tasked to look into the removal of the member in question on Jan 30, 2024.
After investigating, the review committee found that the alleged abuse did take place, according to its report dated May 23, 2024.

ADVERTISEMENT
According to Mr Brightling, he sent an email on Jun 28, 2023, about the club's gym. The review committee's report indicated that this was because a member had been seen "moving the exercise bicycles around".
Mr Brightling then received a phone call from the member in question, calling him to a meeting later that day. The member had allegedly taken issue with being accused and named in the email.
The review committee found that Mr Brightling was clear in his evidence that the member used the words "evil", "incompetent" and "stupid" towards him at this meeting.
The general manager was also shouted at over the phone, and had the phone "banged down" on him by the member in question.
Together with the verbal abuse, this constituted "plainly abusive conduct", the review committee comprising three ordinary club members found.
In a statutory declaration, the general manager stated that in almost three years working at the club, he had come across "many incidents" of harassment and bullying.

ADVERTISEMENT
He said the Jun 28, 2023 incident was "certainly the most egregious example" in his entire career.

Mr Brightling's observation of a "toxic" work culture at Tanglin Club was also supported by others the committee interviewed, who said that staff, including management, were "afraid" of members.
If a club member misbehaved, staff would purportedly tend not to make a formal complaint, but inform their head of department and let their manager handle the matter, or simply resign.
ADVERTISEMENT
This affected staff morale and cost the club in terms of staff turnover and replacement, the review committee said.
They recommended that the club's general committee establish an anti-harassment policy for members and staff, and a way for staff to report abuse without making a direct complaint against a member.
They also suggested having a standard protocol to handle disciplinary complaints against club members to ensure "fairness and transparency", and lay down expected timelines.
The review committee also pointed out that it was a challenge to "get the right people" into the general committee, as only about 300 out of 4,000 members voted in elections.


A greater focus on diversity was needed as members of the general committee "tend anecdotally to be male and older", in their 50s and 60s.
"Work needs to be done to encourage women and younger members to stand for election to the (general committee) and in so doing, to also contribute to the club," the report stated.

ADVERTISEMENT
The review committee noted that "factions, cliques and political in-fighting" were affecting working relationships within the general committee, and between the committee and the club's president.
General committee members could consider mediation "or other efforts to heal divisions, rather than exacerbate them", the report stated.
Finally, the review committee recommended exploring the suitability of a code of conduct "to set the right tone and improve the dynamics underlying the relationships at the club".
CNA has reached out to Tanglin Club to ask about the implementation of the review committee's recommendations.
Disputes involving Tanglin Club members have been a source of controversy before.
In 2022, the Straits Times reported that the club's former president Yeoh En Lai had resigned amid questions about his university qualifications.

ADVERTISEMENT
Mr Brightling, then the general manager, reportedly made a police report over this.
In 2018, TODAY reported that a member had sued Tanglin Club and its general committee for causing him humiliation and distress after he was subject to disciplinary proceedings.
This reportedly happened after he was accused of sending "offensive and disrespectful emails and WhatsApp messages".


https://www.asiaone.com/lifestyle/5-reasons-why-millennials-stopped-coveting-country-clubs-singapore

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/down-4-cs-why-country-160000738.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35499444

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...ountry-club-president-cancelled-club-politics


Malaysians and philippinos are normally courteous and well mannered. Only old money sinkies misbehave like this.
 
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