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hypocrisy of pap exposed after punggol BE

Discussion in 'The Courtyard Café' started by leetahbar, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. leetahbar

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    “As for childcare centres, Mr Teo said these will be difficult to facilitate as they are no longer the representatives for the area.” – Channel Newsasia, 5 February 2013.

    The above comment is made by Teo Ser Luck, Minister of State, Ministry of Trade and Industry and Mayor, North East District – just as Parliament is debating the matter of our future population and how the welfare of Singaporeans are at the core of our government’s policies.

    Mr Teo’s remarks also come on the same day that Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office Grace Fu said “marriage and parenthood is central to maintaining a strong Singaporean core.” One wonders why it would be “difficult to facilitate” the establishment of childcare centres in Punggol East, since the welfare and well-being of our children should not be subject to the political winds.

    As a friend posted on my Facebook page:

    There are a few contentious issues here for discussion when Teo says something like that.

    1) Yes PAP didn’t win the ward and thus, has no mandate to shape the childcare facilities in Punggol East. But there should be nothing obstructing WP from collaborating with private child care operators or NTUC First Campus. Yet we all know that in reality, this is not going to happen.

    2) Alternatively, being appointed as Chairman of Punggol East GRO, KPK could also mobilize Sparkletots (under the umbrella of PCF) or NTUC First Campus and work with WP, the elected party, to set up the much needed childcare services as well. Saying that they are now no longer able to facilitate to do so is simply playing political tactics.

    When the welfare of our children is so callously subject to the whims and fancies of politicians and political parties, it is hard to believe the affirmation these politicians make about how parenthood is central to the Singaporean core.

    It was thought that the ruling party had left behind its discriminatory practices of the past, of using sticks and carrots, of using threats of withdrawal of services from opposition wards. One would have thought that the recent fiasco over the AIM saga has taught the PAP a valuable lesson.

    Apparently not.

    It now seems to want to withdraw establishing or at least not help to establish childcare centres in Punggol East, since the PAP’s candidate lost the by-election there.

    It is such myopic, selfish and infantile attitudes and thinking which have left our politics mired in pettiness.

    The PAP really needs to grow up and realise that if it continues to act in such a manner, it will be seen as a sore loser and this will further erode the support that the party has.

    The PAP can be sure that behaving like this is not going to win it the support of parents who will need childcare support. Its behaviour only further gives credence to the perception that the government does not really care about Singaporeans but that it only cares about the numbers – digits – it needs to prop up GDP growth.

    Indeed, such behaviour betrays all that is being said in Parliament by those such as Ms Fu.

    It is a shame and a disgrace to all Singaporeans, and an affront to all parents that the PAP would treat the care and welfare of our children as a political tool to wield however it wants.

    It makes a complete mockery of the government’s call for Singaporeans to have more children.

    It is disgusting to exploit the burden which parents carry in providing care for their children.

    Mr Teo should be ashamed of himself, and more so since he is also a minister and a mayor.

    We Singaporeans should unequivocally condemn this sort of unbecoming behaviour, unworthy of those who would represent our country.

    Our children – those innocent ones – certainly deserve better.

    Dr Koh was portrayed as a family man, with his own children, during the by-election. He, more than anyone, should know that childcare must not be used for political purposes. One would therefore expect that he would be up in arms about this. But alas ....
     
  2. leetahbar

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    pre BE: for the people.

    post BE: against the people, u die your business.

    that's the forked tongue of the pap! sadly, this is also their year. :p
     
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    If the people of Punggol rejected the PAP, why should they still feel entitled to PAP assistance for their children.

    It would be like a girl rejected a date but still expecting the man she rejected to pay for her meal when she goes out with someone else.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too. :rolleyes:

    Damned sinkies are getting more and more ludicrous by the day.
     
  4. TracyTan866

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    You are ridiculous.

    if your logic is correct, then shdnt the pap close the primary schools and secondary schools in Opposition wards? Shdnt the pap close all the Police stations in Opposition wards? Shdnt the PAP close all the Community Centres in Opposition wards?

    Do you see your warped reasoning?
     
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    u talking nonsense, childcare is the government job, the money for the childcare comes from taxpayer, not from PAP internal party fundraising.
     
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    I see nothing wrong with Teo's comments.

    He's saying PAP (the party itself) won't push for the things they wanted to see. WP can still push for the same things or for other things PAP did not think of.

    The issue is the government's fair cooperation and fair distribution of funds.
     
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    I wish they would. That would teach those people who are disloyal to the PAP a lesson they wouldn't forget in a hurry.

    The problem with many sinkies is that they take the PAP for granted. What they need is a good dose of suffering under an inept leadership.
     
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    I think if the WP can run large town councils they should have the ability to set up child care facilities. if they can manage that they are in a position to win more seats. The PAP still had 40% plus support. If they act in this way even this wil be eroded.
     
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    yes, wp can push for it but ultimately it's the pap that's holding the purse and the machinery to go ahead. pinky's vow of fixing the opps hasn't really been resolved. he's still bent in fixing the opps and making opp ward's voters suffer for the consequences.

    pap is NOT for the people. they are there to control the people for their own well-being.

    sheer pap's hypocrisy has been exposed!
     
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    Well said bro! That basically sums up what the PAP is going for.
     
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    If Teo Ser Luck was a businessman, his statement shows no fault. We sell a service, but you didn't buy it, so we can't provide any after-sales service for another brand or company, other than their own.

    However, Teo Ser Luck is speaking as a Minister.. representing the government of Singapore. Does the government only serve the people who voted for PAP, a political party? Or for Singaporean citizens? So, if he is saying that Pungol East will not get childcare centres, does he mean that Pungol East voters are not Singapoean citizens?

    Pungol East residents, who are Singaproe citizens, should take this matter all the way and ask this Teo for a clarrification on whether his Minister pay is from their taxes. If it is, then he has to deduct the Pungol East citizens share from his pay, cos he is NOT serving them in his capacity as a Minister in the Singapore government.

    Don't let this type of "political hooliganisim" go unchecked.
     
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    How come like that?
     
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    Going by your logic, the people of PE shouldn't pay taxes to the PAP government. All taxes should go to the WP instead.
     
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    Kindergartens and children's schools are public goods and essential to the survival of Singapore. By playing politics with it, Leegime has committed treason and sedition. Political parties come and go, but public goods must be here to stay under ministerial supervision and support, not PAP or WP or any political party. Those with money can go to private ones.
     
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    If they don't pay taxes to the PAP, they aren't entitled to drive on roads beyond the boundaries of their own ward nor seek medical attention in any hospital outside of Punggol East nor expect the police to respond if they need help.

    I think that's a great idea... let them pay their taxes directly to the WP and see what that loser party can offer them in return.
     
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    Maybe then PE men should not do NS or ICT. They have no obligation
     
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    Punggol East is lost to the PAP forever. PAP has simply no class.

    You lose and then you threaten. Nobody takes this shit anymore .... not in this era. These pappy dogs are emulating LKY's penchant for intimidating the electorate when he was the PM. His time is over. This is a very different electorate; one that is not as enamoured with LKY as the older generation. Many young people don't even know the contributions of LKY. They may read about his contributions in textbooks, but it doesn't resonate with them.

    This scare tactic will definitely backfire on the pappies.
     
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    Why the hell do spoilt sinkies need child care centres in the first place?:rolleyes: They should look after their own damned children. My grandmother raised 12 kids all on her own without a child care centre in sight.

    It is unbelievable how feelings of entitlement have permeated the whole country in such a short period of time. If the PAP has any faults, it is in the way it has pampered Singaporeans to the point where they think that a cushy, comfortable life with no effort on their part is a god given right.
     
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    When 6.9 million you have, child care you need.
     
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    My grandmother raised her 12 children in a city with far more than 6.9 million people. :rolleyes:
     

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