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How Mrs Lee Kuan Yew treated the Istana staff

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How Mrs Lee Kuan Yew treated the Istana staff

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October 7th, 2010 |
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I have 2 stories to share about Mrs Lee. But I must confess their veracity cannot be confirmed, unless LKY confirms the 1st and the party involved in the 2nd instance is located.
I have a friend who was for many years attached to the Istana.His father was a gardener during the 60s, and my friend followed suit before becoming an Istana driver later on.
The first incident occurred sometime in the 60s, when LKY first came to power. In fact it was reported he was very down to earth and approachable. Given the problems in the PAP, such the Barisan walkout etc, he did not believe he would remain in power very long, just as David Marshall and Lim Yew Hock before him.
LKY did not become aloof or distant then, he would regularly chat with the Istana staff, from the humble gardeners, butlers, drivers all the way up.
However soon after our independence, when it became clear that he would remain power for much longer that 1st anticipated,staff overheard Mrs Lee chiding him for fraternising with such staff so openly. She told him there was a need to maintain a distance between him and them, given his ‘new permanent status’ as the unchallenged leader of Singapore.
Of course the only 1 who can truly verify this story will be Mr Lee himself, and I doubt he will ever give confirmation. Yet, if one observes his demeanour in public from the late 50s and early 60s, to the late 60s onwards, one can see a marked difference in how much direct contact he had with ordinary members of the public.
Obviously there are perhaps valid reasons for such a change, but my point is to merely highlight the influence she had over him, to the detriment of the common man in the street.
The 2nd incident was again at the Istana in the 80s. As is commonly known, there are lots of fruit trees grown on the Istana grounds. I believe local fruit trees like mangoes, jackfruit, bananas etc are still grown there to his very day.
Like her husband and her sons, Mrs Lee was known to jog regularly in the evenings on the Istana grounds. One such day she spotted 1 of the lower staff (gardener, driver etc, I can’t remember who exactly because I was told this story many years back) picking up some fruits that had fallen to the ground.
She made a check with her security officers later on where, that staff had reported the incident or kept the fruits to himself. It was later confirmed that the staff had intended the fruits for his own consumption. He was told to either return the fruits and resign, or be subject to formal police investigations and face the possibility of being charged. Naturally he took the first offer.
Again here, technically speaking Mrs Lee was right because the fruits are public property, however on a moral basis, one feels she could and should have, let the matter rest.
Generally speaking that was typical of her and the standards she expected, especially to those below her station in life. The human factor was never as important as the belief, that everyone must stick firmly to the rules, without exception. According to my friend, Istana staff were terrified of her, because of her tendency to point out even the smallest of infractions, or worse, bring to the attention of her husband, which she did on several occasions. And when the Big Man enquirers about such things, everyone jumps and greatly fears his questioning.
So because of these things that were told to me, I never really liked Mrs Lee. I do believe LKY did set out to do things with good intentions in the beginning, and he truly did a lot of good. Unfortunately, in later years, I feel he no longer was the person he was in the 50s and early 60s, a champion for the underdog, an anti-Communist and a believer of basic rights. Instead now we see him embracing Chinese Communist Party leaders like long lost kin, promoting a culture that gives the elite a priority over the lower classes. And in place of basic freedom and expressions, is a demand that he and the party knows best, and the people should follow without question.
And I firmly believe Mrs Lee played a very crucial role in that change in him.
So with her passing, I am reminded of the speech by a UK MP (quoting Cromwell) in demanding Prime Minister Chamberlain’s resignation in 1940:
You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately … Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!

Roger the Dodger

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How Mrs Lee Kuan Yew treated the Istana staff

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I have 2 stories to share about Mrs Lee. But I must confess their veracity cannot be confirmed

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LOL!!!!

2nd statement already warned you that this is probably random Bullshit. Only a Bullshit website like TR would publish BS like this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

twinseeker

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did we forget his disclaimer?

"... Without her, I would be a different man, with a different life...."
 

tanwahtiu

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Seems like this is the begining of family dirt coming off from the carpet slowly. Could imagine how many more dirts coming out from the carpet can LHL and his family take after LKY died.
 

saratogas

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1st- everyone getting too close to MM Lee, it's natural for the wife to prevent others getting too close with her husband...

2nd- every staff Kenna sack will say all the negative stuff of their ex- boss...
 

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2nd- every staff Kenna sack will say all the negative stuff of their ex- boss...


The fact that very little gossip has been heard about her, is that people feared her. Which already tells you something about her.

No one dare say anything when she's was still alive. They worry about the repercussions. Now that she's gone, they feel safer talking about her warts & all.

Pretty soon when the mother & father of Spore are gone, so too will be the myths of the Lee.
 

Balls2U

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Just ask those ex-lawyers from Lee & Lee who were there in the 70s and 80s and they'll tell u what sort of person and boss she is.
 

i_am_belle

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whats the big deal abt coming home from work to eat lunch with the children, and then going back to work ? like she was the only one who did that ? :confused: :mad:

during that era most ppl come home for lunch, or someone brings them a tingkat ...

those who shed tears or felt touched during the recent high profile funeral are the type who - curse curse curse PAP and then when GE comes along, give in and choose the lightning bolt logo ... spineless wimps !

ive finished one of two bottles of sparkling chmpagne, and am waiting to pop the other - you know when ... :biggrin:
 
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