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How Many Billions Has the Familee Amassed?

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Saturday, February 5, 2011
Egyptian president has cash in British and Swiss banks plus UK and US property
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Gamal and Hosni Mubarak are reported to have built up huge fortunes, including properties in London. Photograph: Cris Bouroncle/AFP/Getty Images
Phillip Inman, guardian.co.uk
President Hosni Mubarak's family fortune could be as much as $70bn (£43.5bn) according to analysis by Middle East experts, with much of his wealth in British and Swiss banks or tied up in real estate in London, New York, Los Angeles and along expensive tracts of the Red Sea coast.
After 30 years as president and many more as a senior military official, Mubarak has had access to investment deals that have generated hundreds of millions of pounds in profits. Most of those gains have been taken offshore and deposited in secret bank accounts or invested in upmarket homes and hotels.
According to a report last year in the Arabic newspaper Al Khabar, Mubarak has properties in Manhattan and exclusive Beverly Hills addresses on Rodeo Drive.
His sons, Gamal and Alaa, are also billionaires. A protest outside Gamal's ostentatious home at 28 Wilton Place in Belgravia, central London, highlighted the family's appetite for western trophy assets.
Amaney Jamal, a political science professor at Princeton University, said the estimate of $40bn-70bn was comparable with the vast wealth of leaders in other Gulf countries.
"The business ventures from his military and government service accumulated to his personal wealth," she told ABC news. "There was a lot of corruption in this regime and stifling of public resources for personal gain.
"This is the pattern of other Middle Eastern dictators so their wealth will not be taken during a transition. These leaders plan on this."
Al Khabar said it understood the Mubaraks kept much of their wealth offshore in the Swiss bank UBS and the Bank of Scotland, part of Lloyds Banking Group, although this information could be at least 10 years old.
There are only sketchy details of exactly where the Mubaraks have generated their wealth and its final destination.
Christopher Davidson, professor of Middle East politics at Durham University, said Mubarak, his wife, Suzanne, and two sons were able to accumulate wealth through a number of business partnerships with foreign investors and companies, dating back to when he was in the military and in a position to benefit from corporate corruption.
He said most Gulf states required foreigners give a local business partner a 51% stake in start-up ventures. In Egypt, the figure is commonly nearer 20%, but still gives politicians and close allies in the military a source of huge profits with no initial outlay and little risk.
"Almost every project needs a sponsor and Mubarak was well-placed to take advantage of any deals on offer," he said.
"Much of his money is in Swiss bank accounts and London property. These are the favourites of Middle Eastern leaders and there is no reason to think Mubarak is any different. Gamal's Wilton Place home is likely to be the tip of the iceberg."
Al Khabar named a series of major western companies that, partnered with the Mubarak family, generated an estimated $15m a year in profits.
Aladdin Elaasar, author of The Last Pharaoh: Mubarak and the Uncertain Future of Egypt in the Obama Age, said the Mubaraks own several residences in Egypt, some inherited from previous presidents and the monarchy, and others the president has commissioned.
Hotels and land around the Sharm el-Sheikh tourist resort are also a source of Mubarak family wealth.


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Typical western propaganda and bias.
Nobody needs more than he can chew.
The most this dictator has amass is probably in the region of tens of millions, after thirty years of work.
The billions they talk about is probably the ruling party funds. Without a healthy fund, the ruling party cannot control and discipline its members, bribe the generals etc.
 
Typical western propaganda and bias.
Nobody needs more than he can chew.
The most this dictator has amass is probably in the region of tens of millions, after thirty years of work.
The billions they talk about is probably the ruling party funds. Without a healthy fund, the ruling party cannot control and discipline its members, bribe the generals etc.
talk cock!
 
Why do you think they abolished Estate Duty ?

To help peasants save $ ?

Chey. Think about it.
 
Political money is a top secret in singapore unlike other democratic countries.

If you know how much billions they have from GIC and Temesak, you can be charged under the top secret act and ISA will put u in jail for all eternity.
 
Special performance bonus I'm told for year 2010 is 24 months nia nia.

Plus GIC, City Bank, Morgan Stanley and pension money, you go and add up lah.
 
Why do you think they abolished Estate Duty ?

To help peasants save $ ?

Chey. Think about it.

I think a few years ago, the oppos estimated the Familee wealth at $5 billion. If you add the Kwa family wealth, than its a few billions more. Probably the 2 families are over $10 billion.
 
Typical western propaganda and bias.
Nobody needs more than he can chew.
The most this dictator has amass is probably in the region of tens of millions, after thirty years of work.
The billions they talk about is probably the ruling party funds. Without a healthy fund, the ruling party cannot control and discipline its members, bribe the generals etc.



Mr. Mubarak could had done himself a favour, if he had bribed the voters like some smart politicians do.
No need to guess follow who...
 
Typical western propaganda and bias.
Nobody needs more than he can chew.
The most this dictator has amass is probably in the region of tens of millions, after thirty years of work.
The billions they talk about is probably the ruling party funds. Without a healthy fund, the ruling party cannot control and discipline its members, bribe the generals etc.

Suharto was rumoured to be worth US$120 billion.

Surely LKY is smarter than Suharto, got Univ education, honors, etc, etc :rolleyes:
 
Special performance bonus I'm told for year 2010 is 24 months nia nia.

Plus GIC, City Bank, Morgan Stanley and pension money, you go and add up lah.

Don't forget the other side of the Lee empire, selling weapons to 3rd world juntas, acting as middlemen for the Israelis, .....

I sometimes wonder how come Spore spends so much on defence:confused: Could some people be getting some grease money?
 
bros,

i am thinking...whether to join csj as his cellmate?

luckily, last time, i was told if you accused lky of integrity problem, you will get sued and go to jail. on the other hand, if you scold lky vulgar words, so far nothing has happened,phew...but one thing i heard and read when i was in psychological imprisonment, i can cfm lky is a lan jiao lang.

i also know 识时务者为俊杰,通机变者为英豪! but when i see his pappies, 我做不下。。。:oIo:
 
hahaha....legalised corruption or wanton greed exist openly in the West also under guise of retaining talents.
Wall Street execs who very neraly caused the whole world economy to collapse in 2008 pays themselves the following bonuses:

2009: USD128bill
2010: USD135bill

Wonder who is going to vote them out?????
 
bros,

i am thinking...whether to join csj as his cellmate?

luckily, last time, i was told if you accused lky of integrity problem, you will get sued and go to jail. on the other hand, if you scold lky vulgar words, so far nothing has happened,phew...but one thing i heard and read when i was in psychological imprisonment, i can cfm lky is a lan jiao lang.

i also know 识时务者为俊杰,通机变者为英豪! but when i see his pappies, 我做不下。。。:oIo:

If scolding and cursing LKY can go to jail, UncleYap would be serving at least 3 life sentences. Go ahead, curse LKY.
 
Don't forget the other side of the Lee empire, selling weapons to 3rd world juntas, acting as middlemen for the Israelis, .....

I sometimes wonder how come Spore spends so much on defence:confused: Could some people be getting some grease money?

The defense industry is one of the most corrupt in the world. Lots of briberies, graft, etc. going on. U better believe some kickbacks happening from the defense contractors back to the MIW. There is no reason why we need F-15s, stealth frigates, etc. Selling weapons is a small part of their business. By and large, they have not met with great scuccess here.
 
hahaha....legalised corruption or wanton greed exist openly in the West also under guise of retaining talents.
Wall Street execs who very neraly caused the whole world economy to collapse in 2008 pays themselves the following bonuses:

2009: USD128bill
2010: USD135bill

Wonder who is going to vote them out?????

what kind of stupid fuck logic is this? In the west, these wall street execs, are investigated by the SEC, police and newspapers. Their pay, bonuses, and performanances are scrutinized like crazy. SOme are charged and go to jail. Singapore got anything like this or not? Any smell of investigation in singapore at all? Talk cock.
 
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