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How does it justify to have SAF guards & guns for KGC funeral?

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Her official status is only a private citizen nothing more.

She can use Sri Temasek to hold wake and use SAF men & gun carriage for her fucking funeral?

The famiLEE have abused the state facilities and exploited the Singaporean people (as fools) as usual.

:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

She is just the fucking bitch in LKY's bed what is the fucking big deal.

Singaporean people want to pee on her corpse!

:mad::mad::mad:
 
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2005/yax-444.htm

May 2005

The mess that is our presidency





Wee Kim Wee (President of Singapore, 1985 – 1993) died recently and was given a state funeral. Many citizens had a collective cry. He was a genuinely well-liked man; his personal humility impressed thousands. He lived up to the role of a non-political head of state, as symbol and unifier, yet with a common touch. In his passing, he filled that role one last time: his state funeral gave people reason to feel Singaporean regardless of race, creed and political affiliation.

Once it was over, a tiny little question was asked and a huge can of worms opened.

Why, a reader wrote to the Straits Times to ask, was Ong Teng Cheong (President of Singapore 1993 – 1999) not likewise given a state funeral when he died in February 2002?



Presidents of Singapore since independence:
1965 -1970 Yusof Ishak
1970 - 1981 Benjamin Henry Sheares
1981 - 1985 C V Devan Nair
1985 - 1993 Wee Kim Wee
1993 - 1999 Ong Teng Cheong
1999 - present S R Nathan



The government's reply was an empty one (see the excerpt from the Straits Times on the right). Basically it said that the policy on state funerals was "still evolving" and is decided on a case-by-case basis by the Prime Minister and the cabinet. You'd notice that it completely failed to address the key question: WHY didn't Ong get a state funeral?

Two former presidents have passed away before. Yusof Ishak and Benjamin Sheares, the first and second presidents of Singapore respectively, both died in office and were given state funerals.

Thus, of the 4 former presidents who have passed away, only one, Ong Teng Cheong, didn't get a state funeral.

Most Singaporeans think they know the reason: Ong had taken his office too seriously and challenged Goh Chok Tong's government on a number of issues, particularly that relating to the value of the reserves. Worse yet, upon leaving office, he made his grievances public. It was nearly scandalous, coming from someone who had once been a Deputy Prime Minister and a People's Action Party (PAP) stalwart.

To understand what happened, we need to go back to the early 1990s.

* * * * *


In the general election of August 1991, about a year after Goh Chok Tong took over from Lee Kuan Yew as Prime Minister, the PAP lost an unprecedented 4 seats out of 81, compared to the outgoing Parliament that had only 1 opposition member. Their share of the vote (in the constituencies that were contested, and many were not) slipped to 61%.

Soon after, (although Ong himself said the idea had been bruited by Lee Kuan Yew as far back as 1982) the government began to speak of the need for a president with some "executive" powers. What they meant was a president with some blocking or veto powers. The fear, as expressed, was that of an "irresponsible" opposition party winning votes through profligate populism, promising tax cuts and subsidies at the same time. Singapore would be ruined, the government said.

So a constitutional amendment was passed (it's easy when you have 77 seats out of 81 in parliament) in order to establish a new rule. Under this new requirement, when a government leaves office, the state assets are sequestered. The incoming government can spend what revenue it acquires through its taxation or other policies, but it cannot spend the "nest-egg" built up by the previous government without the consent of the president.

The idea is that no new government (meaning the opposition) can raid the bank so carefully built up by the previous thrifty government (the PAP) in order to "buy" votes to keep themselves in power.



14 May 2005
Straits Times

PM and Cabinet decide who gets state funeral

Singaporeans who have made 'truly exceptional contributions' will receive a state funeral.

But it is not feasible to have a set formula on who gets one, based on a person's previous rank or appointment, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's press secretary said yesterday.

'The decision to hold one is made by the Prime Minister and the Cabinet,' Mr Chen Hwai Liang said in his letter to the Today newspaper and Chinese-language daily Lianhe Zaobao.

[snip]

As a young country, Singapore's practices and customs for public ceremonies and observances are still evolving, added Mr Chen. 'As the years pass, we will gradually establish norms and traditions that will reflect the Singapore way of honouring our best sons and daughters who have passed away, that is dignified, restrained and expresses the gratitude and sense of loss of the nation.'



Goh foresaw that in the event of a showdown between a government that wanted to spend the reserves and a president that wanted to be more prudent, it would be necessary for the president to have a stronger mandate from the people. Thus, at the same time as the veto powers were enshrined in the constitution, provision was also made for direct elections (i.e. by citizens) to fill the office of President. Previously, when the presidency was just a ceremonial position, it was Parliament who voted the candidate into office.

Furthermore, to ensure that only candidates who were financially trustworthy could every make it to the newly empowered presidency, the constitution was changed to stipulate that only those who met these criteria were eligible to stand for election: they had to be at least 45 years old, and have had at least three years' experience as ministers, heads of statutory boards or key government agencies, or have headed a company whose minimum paid-up capital was $100 million, or had equivalent experience.

These conditions make it virtually impossible for the opposition parties to field any candidate for the foreseeable future, which is hardly a surprise since the whole idea of veto powers is to put a safe person in place in order to deny any non-PAP government freedom of manoeuvre with the finances.

However, while all this was very neat in theory, in practice, it's been unraveling ever since.

Ong Teng Cheong was elected to the presidency in 1993. One of his first moves was to ask the civil service for a list of assets that the government had started off with. Six years later, one of his complaints at the end of his term of office in 1999, was that he never quite got a full accounting. Another of his complaints was that he was never given enough staff to check the numbers given to him.

Here is the relevant portion of Asiaweek's interview with Ong (issue dated 10 March 2000)

It was this issue that caused the dispute between you and the government?

Yes. But I don't want to go into details and upset everybody. The thing is that the elected president is supposed to protect the reserves, but he was not told what these are until five years later. From the day the Constitution was amended in 1991 to provide for an elected president, he was supposed to fulfil that role. My predecessor, Wee Kim Wee, although he was not elected, was supposed to play that role during the last two years of his term. But he did not actively check. So, when I came in in 1993, I asked for all this information about the reserves. It took them three years to give it to me.

The holdup was for administrative reasons?

Either that or they did not think there was any urgency. You see, if you ask me to protect the reserves, then you've got to tell me what I'm supposed to protect. So I had to ask.

Why did they not want to tell you?

I do not know. Don't ask me, because I don't have the answer. I've been asking them. In fact, in 1996, exactly halfway through my term, I wrote prime minister Goh a letter. At that time, everybody was expecting a general election in December or January. After the election, a new government would be sworn in. When that happens, all the reserves, whether past or current, become past reserves and are locked up on the changeover date. As president, I have to safeguard them and they can only be drawn upon with my permission. So I said to Mr Goh It's already halfway through my term, but until today I still don't know all these figures about the reserves.

So the government had been stonewalling you, the president, for three years?

Yes. What happened actually was, as you know, in accounting, when you talk about reserves, it's either cash reserves or assets reserves. The cash side is straightforward investment, how many million dollars here and there, how much comes from the investment boards and so on. That was straightforward -- but still we had to ask for it. For the assets, like properties and so on, normally you say it's worth $30 million or $100 million or whatever. But they said it would take 56-man years to produce a dollar-and-cents value of the immovable assets. So I discussed this with the accountant-general and the auditor-general and we came to a compromise. The government would not need to give me the dollar-and-cents value, just give me a listing of all the properties that the government owns.

They agreed?

Well, yes, they agreed, but they said there's not the time for it. It took them a few months to produce the list. But even when they gave me the list, it was not complete.

It seems the Singapore government does not know its own assets?

Yes. It's complicated. It's never been done before. And for the assets of land, I can understand why. Every piece of land, even a stretch of road, is probably subdivided into many lots. There are 50,000 to 60,000 lots and every one has a number. If you want to value them all, it would take a long time. In the past, they have just locked everything up and assumed it is all there. But if I am to protect it, at least I want to know the list.

When they eventually gave you the list -- the incomplete list, did you have enough staff to do the checking and other work?

No, I did not. I only had one administrative staffer and two part-timers from the auditor-general's office.


You can see the Asiaweek article at
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw00/000310a3.htm

The government took exception to many of the points Ong made in this interview. You can see their response at
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw00/000310st.htm

As you can sense from the tone of Ong's words, there was some acrimony. We can deduce two things from these remarks Firstly, Ong obviously felt very strongly about living up to his job, and secondly, the government was either embarrassed they couldn't give an accounting, or too injured in their pride to co-operate ("He had the temerity to ask! Who does he think he is? The President?")

To make things worse, Ong contemplated standing for reelection again in 1999. The government, citing his lymphoma, refused to support his proposed candidacy, and instead arranged to put up S R Nathan as their preferred candidate. Even then, Ong still considered contesting and if he did, observers felt, he would likely have trounced the government's Nathan. Ong had the benefit of wide respect, name-recognition, incumbency and belonging to the majority race. Moreover, he had the fierce loyalty of many Chinese-speaking Chinese, being one of them, unlike Prime Minister Goh. Nathan, on the other hand, was unknown, and of Indian descent.

Although it didn't come out into the public till later, it was a moment of crisis. It risked splitting the PAP down the middle, and making Goh's government look like a loser.

Fortunately for the PAP, Ong changed his mind and retired. Nathan's name was submitted on Nomination Day... and no one else's. So it was a walkover. There was no contest. President Nathan, the elected president -- the one who was supposed to have a strong mandate to stand up to the government of the day if necessary, remember ? -- came to office without being elected.
 
blatant abuse of state resource


chao cheebye lau lee


think they own sinkieland

mother fucker

hope cheebye lee stay alive to witness a revolt where his whole familee

get string up for past sins
 
:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

Her official status is only a private citizen nothing more.

She can use Sri Temasek to hold wake and use SAF men & gun carriage for her fucking funeral?

The famiLEE have abused the state facilities and exploited the Singaporean people (as fools) as usual.

:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

She is just the fucking bitch in LKY's bed what is the fucking big deal.

Singaporean people want to pee on her corpse!

:mad::mad::mad:

She is just in keeping with the rest of her family in the wastage of taxpayers money:

-Hubby Old Goat still collecting million $ salary when he should have been long retired.
- Son Gay Loong collecting $ million salary and nowhere to be seen during crisis time, and still need his daddy, Wooden, and 2 other ministers to personally assist him in his mental retardation.
- DIL Whore Jinx losing billion $ and still defiant about it
- Son Hsien Yang running telcoms, and not knowing what he is doing but collecting large CEO fees

Now its her turn to waste taxpayer's money too with the state funeral. Nothing new, its the Lee Dynasty. Public funds is like their personal piggy bank.
 
:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

Her official status is only a private citizen nothing more.

She can use Sri Temasek to hold wake and use SAF men & gun carriage for her fucking funeral?

The famiLEE have abused the state facilities and exploited the Singaporean people (as fools) as usual.

:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

She is just the fucking bitch in LKY's bed what is the fucking big deal.

Singaporean people want to pee on her corpse!

:mad::mad::mad:

You retarded gay dog:oIo:

Mrs Lee Kuan Yew is the mother of Modern Singapore:mad:
 
i caught a glimpse of cna's telecast on kgc funeral. her 3 children were taking turns to talk about her. no shit lee wei ling not only look like a man, her voice is exactly like a man too:eek:

somemore she seem to have very big biceps:eek: too much male hormones:confused:
 
i caught a glimpse of cna's telecast on kgc funeral. her 3 children were taking turns to talk about her. no shit lee wei ling not only look like a man, her voice is exactly like a man too:eek:

somemore she seem to have very big biceps:eek: too much male hormones:confused:

She is still available, you want???:D
 
of coure, she is the Mother Of Our Nation...why not?
 
i caught a glimpse of cna's telecast on kgc funeral. her 3 children were taking turns to talk about her. no shit lee wei ling not only look like a man, her voice is exactly like a man too:eek:

somemore she seem to have very big biceps:eek: too much male hormones:confused:

There is a condition call Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH); if left undiagnosed from young probably this resulted. Happens in 1:50,000 and prevalent among certain races with mixed lineage.

I leave out the part of the genitila which is too gross to describe for the worst case.:cool:
 
great contributions from everyone for Madam Kwa...very inspriing...a good insight into the Lee Family....
 
"Death

Ong's wife, Ling Siew May, died in August 1999 after a cancer relapse. Ong died later on February 8, 2002, at the age of 66, from lymphoma in his home at about 8:14 pm SST after he had been discharged from hospital a few days earlier.

Among the five former presidents who have died, Ong is the first president who did not receive a state funeral, he received a state-assisted funeral instead.[8]"
from wikipedia

the 1st lady didnt recieve the same as KGC, neither did the late president receive 1 like the others.
 
i caught a glimpse of cna's telecast on kgc funeral. her 3 children were taking turns to talk about her. no shit lee wei ling not only look like a man, her voice is exactly like a man too:eek:

somemore she seem to have very big biceps:eek: too much male hormones:confused:
more manly than pinkie, for sure.
 
There is a condition call Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH); if left undiagnosed from young probably this resulted. Happens in 1:50,000 and prevalent among certain races with mixed lineage.

I leave out the part of the genitila which is too gross to describe for the worst case.:cool:
may have bigger manhood than that of pinkie's??
 
There is a condition call Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH); if left undiagnosed from young probably this resulted. Happens in 1:50,000 and prevalent among certain races with mixed lineage.

I leave out the part of the genitila which is too gross to describe for the worst case.:cool:

Are u sure it was CAH? I thought CAH sufferers are normal looking until they take off their clothes. She looks unlike a female from the outside.
 
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