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Ho Jinx: Temasick Not Affected by China Banks' Meltdown Woh. Think SGs are Daft?

makapaaa

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[h=2]Temasek: China’s credit crunch ‘will not affect’ its substantial stakes in Chinese banks[/h]
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July 5th, 2013 |
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t month, China’s central bank, the People’s Bank of China (PBOC), decided to tighten liquidity in the market in its bid to limit funds to a vast informal loan market (“shadow finance”) as it works to shore up growth in the world’s second-largest economy.

As a result, some Chinese banks found it difficult to borrow the money they required from their fellow banks. The interest rate for an overnight loan from one bank to another briefly hit 30% on 20 June, compared with a typical rate of about 2.5% earlier in the year. The cash crunch raised fears of bank defaults.

Typically, when China’s banks run short of cash, the central bank will step in to help by “printing” more money. However, last month, PBOC surprised everyone by refusing to help, causing a temporary cash crunch in the system. As interest rates spiked, fear and uncertainty set in. Eventually the central bank did intervene, ordering big banks to lend to smaller ones and promising to stabilise the market. But everyone was shaken by the event.

The indirect consequences are profound. The central bank’s move shows that China’s leadership is worried about rapid credit growth. This excess lending is contributing little to the economy. Instead of financing consumer spending or business expansion it appears to be financing the purchase of existing assets instead. That adds nothing to growth. The government’s efforts to curb lending could, however, slow China’s growth further.
The move also shows how concerned the Chinese government has become about the surge of “shadow finance” in China, a term encompassing all kinds of credit created outside formal bank-lending channels, including loans arranged by banks but not recorded in their balance sheets. The informal credit boom has led to concerns about a potential increase in bad debt in the country’s vast banking sector, adding to worries over Beijing’s long-touted ability to manage its overall economy.

Estimates by UBS put the size of China’s so-called shadow banking system at US$3.4 trillion, equal to 45% of China’s GDP. Just in Wenzhou alone, a city in Zhejiang province, it is estimated that almost 90% of families and 60% of companies participate in the informal market for loans, according to a 2011 survey by PBOC.

The rapid rate of credit growth is viewed by many analysts as stunning and unsustainable. The concern is that much of that money will have been lent without due care to businesses and individuals, and many of them will never be able to repay much of it. There is every danger that banks and financial institutions can and will go bust – unless they are bailed out by central bank and government.

In any case, Temasek Holdings isn’t very concerned. It has been investing in Chinese banks big time.

China is a key investment market for Temasek, accounting for 23% of its portfolio or S$198 billion as of 31 March 2013. Temasek raised its exposure to the Chinese financial industry in the past fiscal year by buying up shares in Industrial and Commercial Bank of China Ltd, of which it now owns 8.07%. Temasek has pumped into China an estimated S$3 billion since 2012 alone.

China Construction Bank is Temasek’s second-largest investment, at 8% of its portfolio or S$18.1 billion as of 31 March 2013.

At a briefing yesterday (4 Jul), Temasek said that China’s credit crunch “will not affect” its substantial bank stakes there.

Mr Chia Song Hwee, Temasek’s co-head of China, said, “There is sufficient liquidity in the system, so we are not concerned about a liquidity crunch over a prolonged period.”

“The banks that we have invested in are actually very well capitalised.”

Despite China’s slowing economic growth and risks in its financial sector, “the government has ample policy room to deal with these challenges,” he said.

Temasek was burned by its financial industry exposure in 2008 as stakes in large European and U.S. banks plunged in value due to turmoil in global markets. But it has kept 31% of its investment portfolio in banks which it feels are strong and can capture emerging market growth, trimming from nearly 40% before the financial crisis in 2008.

Temasek’s net profit for the fiscal year ending 31 March 2013 declined very slightly to S$10.6 billion from S$10.7 billion in the preceding year.

Related: Time to worry about Temasek’s strategy on Chinese banks
 

makapaaa

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<cite class="fn">oxygen:</cite>

July
5, 2013 at 5:23 pm
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WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST RISKS IN TEMASEK HOLDINGS’ investment in Chinese banks?
I see these vulnerabilities

- too much of exposure in one country, China accounting for 23% of total
portfolio
- within China, too much investments in banking sector
- within
the banking sector, too narrowly spread out with China Construction Bank alone
accounting for just under 10% of the total portfolio (its second largest
investment after Singapore Telecom).
- if there is a capital crunch ( not
unlikely) and all Chinese banks need recapitalization of a one-for-one rights,
DOES TEMASEK HOLDINGS HAS FREE FLOAT OF AVAILABLE CASH TO TAKE UP THOSE RIGHTS –
THAT COULD BE 15% TO 23% OF TEMASEK HOLDING TOTAL PORTFOLIO VALUE?

If not, it face MASSIVE dilution in shareholding and HUGE CAPITAL LOSS OVER
THE LONG-TERM while the Chinese Government and other shareholders gain in
shareholding via cheap rights.

And we know Chinese banks have ALL POSTPONED THEIR BASLE III capital ratio
requirements for the THIRD time to early 2014. IT MEANS THEY GOT NO MONEY OR
STRUGGLING TO FIND MONEY TO BOOST ITS CAPITAL BASE or some shareholders won’t
support this capital raising.

SO IT IS HARD FOR ME TO COMPREHEND WHY TEMASEK HOLDINGS CAME OUT TO SAY THESE
CHINESE BANKS ARE WELL CAPITALIZED – they are NOT IN MANAGEMENT to know the
extent of bad loans in their books even though I believe they could be
substantial shareholder in China Construction Bank having more than 5% of its
equity.

If Chinese banks is crushed in this liquidity crunch of a hard landing of
China’s economy, is TEMASEK HOLDINGS ready to write of maybe 15% to 23% perhaps
of its investment portfolio value? That amounts to maybe S$32 billion to $49
billion again after those losses in the GFC for those torrid banking
investments?

I DON’T KNOW BUT IT IS WORRYING – looking at the situation enveloping in
China now.

TEMASEK HOLDINGS ACKNOWLEDGE ITS AWARENESS OF THE CREDIT CRUNCH, but does it
know what the final outcome could be if that develops into a full-blown crisis?
 

laksaboy

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DOES TEMASEK HOLDINGS HAS FREE FLOAT OF AVAILABLE CASH TO TAKE UP THOSE RIGHTS –
THAT COULD BE 15% TO 23% OF TEMASEK HOLDING TOTAL PORTFOLIO VALUE?

Raising GST to 10% will solve the problem. :cool:
 

makapaaa

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<cite class="fn">oxygen:</cite>

July
5, 2013 at 10:39 pm
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I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHY TEMASEK HOLDING IS CURRENTLY
INVESTING 8% of its total investment portfolio in one Chinese bank – CHINA
CONSTRUCTION BANK.

Was that a conscious systematic effort in building up some kind of strategic
stake? Or was that a “LEGACY ACCIDENT” of having been caught up in the MONEY
SUCKING SINKHOLE of investment in Chinese banking which some western global
banks apparently have fled from.

Why is Chinese banks are a money-sucking sinkhole? Well look at this
weblink.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/chinas-biggest-banks-are-squeezed-for-capital/

China’s big four banks are not managed purely on commercial terms but uncut
of umbilical cord and remain an integral part of State-directed capitalism. That
“obligated” them to pay handsome dividend to its State-dominated shareholders
and funding high dividend payout by fresh capital calls to replenish their base
capital. One source has it that in 2010, China five biggest banks – big four
plus Bank of Communications – actually paid out more than 144 billion Yuan in
dividend and raised more than 199 billion in the capital markets at the same
time.

So on paper, Chinese banks looks like attractive investment with high
dividend yield BUT A PONZI OPERATION in reality in that they are capital
devouring in that its capital side of balance sheet kept bleeding by necessity
to pay huge dividend to their largest shareholder – the State.

SO THEY NEED TO CALLS FOR RIGHTS as the lending portfolio grows. That means
that investors got to be prepared to pump in more and more money over time
because their aggregate total shareholdings keeps growing.

I noted that on 28 December 2010, there was a 25:10 share split in China
Construction Bank expanding its shareholding base. This will allow China
Construction Bank to harvest more capital in the next rights issue.

For Chinese government, it is peanut to fund those rights BUT FOR TEMASEK
HOLDINGS, endless calls for capital by way of rights issues will blow up its
risks exposure to that particular bank.

WAS THAT WHY TEMASEK HOLDINGS END UP INVESTING 8% OF ITS TOTAL INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIO i.e. its huge exposure to China Construction Bank is the result of
“legacy accident” of having been sucked into putting more and more money in the
money-sucking sinkhole of investments in Chinese banking sector which western
banks now fleeing away from?
 

escher

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Temasek is one of the best performing funds in the world so you have nothing to worry about.

The proof is here : http://www.cnbc.com/id/100864417

Isnt it a fucking musical chair with Leong quoting from others who read from the same song sheet given out by PAP spin doctors?
And using that as a self fullfilling proof.

Ah yes! Leong is on his self appointed role (so he sezs) of waving palm leaves and singing hosannas to smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY becauze LKY through his brilliance enabled Leong to get huge returns on his investments and therefore Leong is positioned with his head down down and arsehole up high high in front of that smear of shit and to do things for smear of shit enjoyment.

Looks like for Leong enjoyment too.
One never know what form of enjoyment enjoyment will take.

He not contented with enjoyment of NZ, kept turning his head back to Stinkapore and saying how he enjoyed PAP here

HE SHOULD COME BACK AND TASTE THAT ENJOYMENT FIRST HAND
 

bryanlim1972

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Temasek is one of the best performing funds in the world so you have nothing to worry about.

The proof is here : http://www.cnbc.com/id/100864417

the only proof you have is that the fund is underperforming this year, and that some agency (CPF perhaps) has been pumping money into temasek to increase its portfolio size. :kma:

However, the fund - headed by Ho Ching, the wife of the country's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong - reported net income that fell slightly to 10.6 billion Singapore dollars from 10.7 billion the year before, driven by lower contributions from companies in its portfolio.

Singapore's Temasek Holdings, one of the world's largest sovereign wealth funds, said the size of its portfolio soared to a record high in the financial year ending March 2013, even as profits showed a slight dip.
 

kingrant

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Since when will they be affected by anything, when they can create anytime the Financial sheets that they would like you to see?
 

johnny333

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If I remember correctly Temasek started losing money way back in Suzhou. Sporeans were NEVER told how much was lost in the Suzhou project even to this day.

It was one of the biggest skeletons of LKY's time. I guess LHL/Ho Ching are trying to outdo Papa.
 

escher

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Didnt Tema the Sick returns of 17% pa as reported again and again and yet again by LeongSam?

With such wonderful fucking returns why all that worry?

Who cares if Tema the Sick started with 100?? 200?? 300?? 500?? 700?? billions.
And since then added 100?? 200?? 300??? billions screwed and stolen from sinkies

What do all those figures mean to you or to me now?
When they are all fucking gone into that 17% return pa as so Leongsam loudly claimed again and yet again


WILL YOU GET YOUR FUCKING MONEY BACK?
THAT IS THE MAIN QUESTION

THANK YOU 60% SINKIES WHO INFLICTED US WITH THOSE PAP BASTARDS
 

PrinceCharming

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At a briefing yesterday (4 Jul), Temasek said that China’s credit crunch “will not affect” its substantial bank stakes there.

Mr Chia Song Hwee, Temasek’s co-head of China, said, “There is sufficient liquidity in the system, so we are not concerned about a liquidity crunch over a prolonged period.”

“The banks that we have invested in are actually very well capitalised.”

Despite China’s slowing economic growth and risks in its financial sector, “the government has ample policy room to deal with these challenges,” he said.

Mr Chia wasn't talking to Sinkies when he made the above statements. He was reassuring himself that all was well.
 
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