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Teo Ho Pin: Contract with AIM benefits town councils

PAP town councils sold management software to a third party because it was "cumbersome and inefficient" to have 14 individual town councils hold intellectual property rights to the software. -Singapolitics

Wed, Jan 02, 2013
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The PAP town councils sold the management software to a third party because it was "cumbersome and inefficient" to have 14 individual town councils hold intellectual property rights to the software.

Dr Teo Ho Pin, the coordinating chairman of PAP town councils, gave this explanation in a 26-paragraph, four-page statement outlining why and how the town councils came to have a sale and lease back deal with the PAP-owned Action Information Management (Aim).

"The vendor would have to deal with all the 14 town councils when reviewing or revising the system. It would be better for the 14 town councils to consolidate their software rights in a single party which would manage them on behalf of all the town councils, and also source vendors to improve the system and address the deficiencies," he said.

He added that the idea to have a third party own the computer system with the councils paying a service fee was not uncommon and that the deal ultimately yielded savings of around $8,000 for the town councils.

Dr Teo went on to name the five companies that collected tender documents. Apart from Aim, there was CSC Technologies Services, Hutcabb Consulting, NCS, and NEC Asia. In the end, only Aim submitted a bid.

Said Dr Teo: "I am aware that NCS considered bidding but in the end, decided not to do so as it was of the view that the IP rights to software developed in 2003 on soon to be replaced platforms were not valuable at all."

Another withdrew, he said, because it did not want to fulfil a requirement that it ensure the renewal of the contract with NCS would not come with a rate increase.

Dr Teo also gave an explanation of a clause stating that the contract with Aim can be terminated if there is a material change in the town council. Workers' Party chairman Sylvia Lim had questioned twice how this clause was in the public interest.

He said: "Under the contract with AIM, the TCs (town councils) could terminate the arrangements by giving one month's notice if the TCs were not satisfied with AIM's performance. Similarly, AIM could terminate by giving one month's notice in the event of material changes to the membership of a TC, or to the scope and duties of a TC, like changes to its boundaries.

"This is reasonable as the contractor has agreed to provide services on the basis of the existing TC- and town-boundaries, and priced this assumption into the tender. Should this change materially, the contractor could end up providing services to a TC which comprises a much larger area and more residents, but at the same price."
 

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It is cumbersome to hold public monies so give it away like to Jinx and Temasick holdings & Great Investment Con?
 

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KNN. There was a savings of $8,000 for the 14 TCs, amounting to $571.42857cents each.

What kind of fcuking business deal is this, if this is a deal?
 

Bigfuck

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He never says how the savings come and when. I can say savings from the 140K made, but by year 2-3 it will be red.
 

Bigfuck

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Look under town council's act. Read below. So are TC's PAP TC's or public servants?

Public servants for purposes of Penal Code
56. All members, officers and employees of a Town Council and all employees of its managing agent shall be deemed to be public servants for the purposes of the Penal Code (Cap. 224).
 

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It is obvious that they are trying to shoot their way out of this one.
His statement is full of holes, self-contradictory, does not respond to the real issues.
But then again, when was the last time we heard any sensible things from the mouths of these chiak liau bees MPs?
 

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It would be better for the 14 town councils to consolidate their software rights in a single party which would manage them on behalf of all the town councils, and also source vendors to improve the system and address the deficiencies," he said.


Dr Teo went on to name the five companies that collected tender documents. Apart from Aim, there was CSC Technologies Services, Hutcabb Consulting, NCS, and NEC Asia. In the end, only Aim submitted a bid.

Some hilarious extracts:

"consolidate their software rights in a single party..............", how ironical.

in the end, only Aim submitted a bid. Ooooooh, how convenient.
 

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Some hilarious extracts:

"consolidate their software rights in a single party..............", how ironical.

in the end, only Aim submitted a bid. Ooooooh, how convenient.
Look under town council's act. Read below. So are TC's PAP TC's or public servants?

Public servants for purposes of Penal Code
56. All members, officers and employees of a Town Council and all employees of its managing agent shall be deemed to be public servants for the purposes of the Penal Code (Cap. 224).
 

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Teo Ho Pin: Contract with AIM benefits town councils
The PAP town councils sold the management software to a third party because it was "cumbersome and inefficient" to have 14 individual town councils hold intellectual property rights to the software.

Fucking liar!

Why have 14 Town Councils in the first place?
Why not group all into one big GRC?
Why 14 HDB area offices?
Why 14 Car Park Offices?
Why have 14 different contractors for cleaning?
Why have 14 different sets of accounts?
Why...why...why..why so many 14 sets of duplications???????
Are they not cumbersome and inefficient?
 

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The more they try to explain away, the smellier the situation becomes.

I love it. Keep it up, you overpaid dunces! :biggrin:
 

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Harmony Teo Ho Pin must think that we are all goons and morons. The tone is certainly sincere but none of the material questions have been answered.

What is interesting is that why NCS built a software that has such a short lifespan and how much was paid to NCS for such a poorly built software. To be fair, how was the previous tender done and why was it accepted. We now have both tenders cast in bad light.

And still why the course of taken, why terminate Aljunid and the how and why a $2 company with no background in cleaning a fishtank let alone handle softwares were awarded the tender.
 

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"We're PA party and we'll do what we want to,
You'll do it too if it happened to you"

sung to the tune of "It's My Party"
 

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Very reasonable answer from Ho. In fact I already more or less knew what Ho would say because it is simply logical.
It wasn't AIM who terminated service for AHTC like Sylvia mislead the public into thinking but Sylvia who kaykiang and terminated AIM's service thinking she could get her cronies to set up a company to do the same thing.
An even better question to ask Sylvia is, how could it be of public interest for WP to terminate AIM's service for AHTC and mislead the public on this issue?
 

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Very reasonable answer from Ho. In fact I already more or less knew what Ho would say because it is simply logical.
It wasn't AIM who terminated service for AHTC like Sylvia mislead the public into thinking but Sylvia who kaykiang and terminated AIM's service thinking she could get her cronies to set up a company to do the same thing.
An even better question to ask Sylvia is, how could it be of public interest for WP to terminate AIM's service for AHTC and mislead the public on this issue?

Actually, very expected crap from Kanina. Illogical to believe that it can think straight. Crony take monies from people to give to cronies and say PAP so trustworthy. Kanina is PAP funded so why bother to even look at logic. An even better to ask is why are we paying Kanina?
 

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"We're PA party and we'll do what we want to,
You'll do it too if it happened to you"

sung to the tune of "It's My Party"

Lets party

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I can't believe that more than 60% dumbfucks from Bukit Panjang voted for this Hyena in 2011..:confused:
 
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