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History's most celebrated military commanders
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Bai Qi, nicknamed 'Human Butcher'. (Chinese: 白起; c. 332 BC – 257 BC)
Bai Qi (Chinese: 白起; c. 332 BC – 257 BC), also known as Gongsun Qi (公孫起),[1] was a Chinese military general of the Qin state during the Warring States period. Born in Mei (present-day Mei County, Shaanxi), Bai Qi served as the commander of the Qin army for more than 30 years, being responsible for the deaths of over one million,[2] earning him the nickname Ren Tu (人屠; lit. 'human butcher'). According to the Shiji, he seized more than 73 cities from the other six hostile states, and to date no record has been found to show that he suffered a single defeat throughout his military career. He was named by Chinese historians as one of the four greatest generals of the late Warring States period, along with Li Mu, Wang Jian, and Lian Po;[3] he is also remembered as the most fearsome amongst the four.
During the Battle of Changping in 260 BC, he succeeded Wang He as the commander of the Qin army, and soon defeated the Zhao army commanded by the inexperienced Zhao Kuo, who himself had replaced Lian Po as acting commander. The Zhao army was split into two parts and its supply lines and retreat route cut off by Bai Qi. More than 400,000 Zhao soldiers, including the Shangdang people who surrendered after Zhao Kuo was shot dead by Qin archers, were slain (坑殺; buried alive) on the orders of Bai Qi.[8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bai_Qi
Xenophon sounds like a more interesting example. He was never made for a leader. He only became a leader because all his superiors, from CO to platoon commander, were executed at a persian dinner. I've provided an edited summary below. Full tale in the link at the bottom.
Known to history as the Ten Thousand, these Greeks had marched across barren, waterless steppes and through snow-choked mountain passes. Along the way they’d fought a succession of enemies and suffered various maladies, including battle wounds, frostbite, malnutrition, thirst and illness.
Their extraordinary journey is related in Anabasis (Greek for “upward journey”), by Xenophon, a professional soldier who was the rearguard commander mentioned above and traversed the same arduous road. The Greeks’ two-year (401–399 BC), nearly 3,000-mile campaign—from Ephesus on the Aegean Sea east to the heart of the Persian empire, north to the shore of the Black Sea and back west to Byzantium (present-day Istanbul)—is a remarkable narrative of endurance and discipline.
Following the 404 BC death of Persia’s King Darius II, tensions flared between his sons Artaxerxes and Cyrus. Although Cyrus was favored by his mother, the line of succession fell to his older brother, who became King Artaxerxes II.
Reckoning his own troops (estimated at 20,000 men) insufficient to go up against the Persian army, Cyrus sent out agents to enlist foreign soldiers. He sought more than numerical superiority. Greek hoplites—armor-clad heavy infantrymen armed with spears and shields—had long been in demand by Eastern potentates for their battlefield effectiveness. The promise of pay and the opportunity for military adventure was enough to draw more than 10,000 of these troops to serve Cyrus, although he concealed his true purpose from the hirelings.
As the armies closed, the Greeks proved their mettle by charging and routing the Persians facing them. On Cyrus’ left, however, the king’s ranks stretched well beyond his own lines, posing a threat of encirclement. Like his brother, Artaxerxes led from the center—the customary position of Persian commanders. Seeing the king on the field and gambling on swift victory, Cyrus charged and broke through the screen of troops in front of Artaxerxes. He managed to wound his brother in the chest, knocking him from his horse. But in the process he overextended himself and was surrounded. Struck beneath the eye by a javelin, Cyrus dropped to the ground, his dreams of power bleeding into the dust. According to the ancient Greek historian Ctesias, in his work Persica, Cyrus survived the injury, and companions carried him from the field alive. Attacked again, Cyrus suffered a spear wound to the leg and died after striking his head on a stone as he fell. At that his army fled, saving themselves as best they could.
Oblivious to the dire events on the front lines, the Ten Thousand continued to pursue the Persians who had broken and fled on Artaxerxes’ left. When they returned to mop up any stragglers, they found their enemies gone and their camp plundered. There they passed a hungry, uncomfortable night with no news of the fateful battle.
Then came the day Tissaphernes persuaded five generals, including Clearchus, and 20 captains to come to his camp for a conference. There he had them seized, slaying the captains and sending the generals to be beheaded before the king. Ariaeus also betrayed the Greeks, reconciling with Artaxerxes. Bereft of leadership and allies in a hostile country more than 1,000 miles from home, with rivers barring their way and no guide to lead them across the mountains, the position of the mercenary band was extremely precarious.
The men first held a council of war in which Xenophon the Athenian came to prominence. Although he had no claim to command, he spoke sensibly and persuasively. Winning the other commanders to his cause, he set proposals before the assembled army. Point by point he elaborated on their current situation, arguing they had more cause for hope than for fear. He recommended they burn everything not useful for fighting or acquiring provisions, swear themselves to redoubled obedience to their commanders, and march for home with a confidence and determination that would daunt their foes.
https://www.historynet.com/odyssey-of-the-ten-thousand/
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No he did not.
Foreign forces officers planned, foreign pilots executed, CAQ just fronted the media and claimed credit
The NZ helicopter pilot saved them idiot.
Stuffycunt you fucktard, Rommel never tried to kill Hitler.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_Chonghuan
Famous Cantonese General....
Yuan Chonghuan (Chinese: 袁崇煥; Jyutping: jyun4 sung4 wun6; pinyin: Yuán Chónghuàn; 6 June 1584 – 22 September 1630), courtesy name Yuansu or Ziru, was a politician, military general and writer who served under the Ming dynasty. Widely regarded as a patriot in Chinese culture, he is best known for defending Liaoning from Jurchen invaders during the Later Jin invasion of the Ming. As a general, Yuan Chonghuan excelled as a cannoneer and sought to incorporate European cannon designs into the Ming arsenal.
Famous Cantonese General....
Yuan Chonghuan (Chinese: 袁崇煥; Jyutping: jyun4 sung4 wun6; pinyin: Yuán Chónghuàn; 6 June 1584 – 22 September 1630), courtesy name Yuansu or Ziru, was a politician, military general and writer who served under the Ming dynasty. Widely regarded as a patriot in Chinese culture, he is best known for defending Liaoning from Jurchen invaders during the Later Jin invasion of the Ming. As a general, Yuan Chonghuan excelled as a cannoneer and sought to incorporate European cannon designs into the Ming arsenal.
He was part of the plot mother fucker
Võ Nguyên Giáp (Vietnamese: [vɔ̌ˀ ŋʷīən jǎːp]; 25 August 1911 – 4 October 2013), nicknamed "Red Napoleon",[1] was a Vietnamese general and communist politician who is regarded as having been one of the greatest military strategists of the 20th century.[2] He served as interior minister in President Hồ Chí Minh's Việt Minh government, the military commander of the Việt Minh, the commander of the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), minister of defence, and deputy prime minister. He also served as a member of the Politburo of the Vietnam Workers' Party, which in 1976 became the Communist Party of Vietnam.
Where is the evidence that Rommel was part of the von Stauffenberg plot?
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Nope. According to historic evidence, the operations was planned and directed by then-Colonel Lee Hsien Loong. The good keling Selvanathan will agree.
Hmm...wasn't he executed for being a fucking traitor? The Ming emperor had him sliced to death by 10,000 cuts.
Jan Zizka
Jan Žižka z Trocnova a Kalicha (English: John Zizka of Trocnov and the Chalice; c. 1360 – 11 October 1424) was a Czech general – a contemporary and follower of Jan Hus and a Radical Hussite who led the Taborites. Žižka was a successful military leader and is now a Czech national hero. He was nicknamed "One-eyed Žižka", having lost one and then both eyes in battle. Jan Žižka led Hussite forces against three crusades and never lost a single battle despite being completely blind in his last stages of life.[1]
Žižka helped develop tactics of using wagon forts, called vozová hradba in Czech or Wagenburg by the Germans, as mobile fortifications. When the Hussite army faced a numerically superior opponent they prepared carts for the battle by forming them into squares or circles. The carts were joined wheel to wheel by chains and positioned aslant, with their corners attached to each other, so that horses could be harnessed to them quickly, if necessary. In front of this wall of carts a ditch was dug by camp followers. The crew of each cart consisted of 16–22 soldiers: 4–8 crossbowmen, 2 handgunners, 6–8 soldiers equipped with pikes or flails (the flail was the Hussite "national weapon"), 2 shield carriers and 2 drivers.
The Hussites' battle consisted of two stages, the first defensive, the second an offensive counterattack. In the first stage the army placed the carts near the enemy army and by means of artillery fire provoked the enemy into battle. The artillery would usually inflict heavy casualties at close range.
In order to avoid more losses, the enemy knights finally attacked. Then the infantry hidden behind the carts used firearms and crossbows to ward off the attack, weakening the enemy. The shooters aimed first at the horses, depriving the cavalry of its main advantage. Many of the knights died as their horses were shot and they fell.
As soon as the enemy's morale was lowered, the second stage, an offensive counterattack, began. The infantry and the cavalry burst out from behind the carts striking violently at the enemy, mostly from the flanks. While fighting on the flanks and being shelled from the carts the enemy was not able to put up much resistance. They were forced to withdraw, leaving behind dismounted knights in heavy armor who were unable to escape the battlefield. The enemy armies suffered heavy losses and the Hussites soon had the reputation of not taking captives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Žižka
Jan Žižka z Trocnova a Kalicha (English: John Zizka of Trocnov and the Chalice; c. 1360 – 11 October 1424) was a Czech general – a contemporary and follower of Jan Hus and a Radical Hussite who led the Taborites. Žižka was a successful military leader and is now a Czech national hero. He was nicknamed "One-eyed Žižka", having lost one and then both eyes in battle. Jan Žižka led Hussite forces against three crusades and never lost a single battle despite being completely blind in his last stages of life.[1]
Žižka helped develop tactics of using wagon forts, called vozová hradba in Czech or Wagenburg by the Germans, as mobile fortifications. When the Hussite army faced a numerically superior opponent they prepared carts for the battle by forming them into squares or circles. The carts were joined wheel to wheel by chains and positioned aslant, with their corners attached to each other, so that horses could be harnessed to them quickly, if necessary. In front of this wall of carts a ditch was dug by camp followers. The crew of each cart consisted of 16–22 soldiers: 4–8 crossbowmen, 2 handgunners, 6–8 soldiers equipped with pikes or flails (the flail was the Hussite "national weapon"), 2 shield carriers and 2 drivers.
The Hussites' battle consisted of two stages, the first defensive, the second an offensive counterattack. In the first stage the army placed the carts near the enemy army and by means of artillery fire provoked the enemy into battle. The artillery would usually inflict heavy casualties at close range.
In order to avoid more losses, the enemy knights finally attacked. Then the infantry hidden behind the carts used firearms and crossbows to ward off the attack, weakening the enemy. The shooters aimed first at the horses, depriving the cavalry of its main advantage. Many of the knights died as their horses were shot and they fell.
As soon as the enemy's morale was lowered, the second stage, an offensive counterattack, began. The infantry and the cavalry burst out from behind the carts striking violently at the enemy, mostly from the flanks. While fighting on the flanks and being shelled from the carts the enemy was not able to put up much resistance. They were forced to withdraw, leaving behind dismounted knights in heavy armor who were unable to escape the battlefield. The enemy armies suffered heavy losses and the Hussites soon had the reputation of not taking captives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Žižka
Yuan's name was cleared nearly a century later by the Qianlong Emperor of the Qing dynasty, after conclusive evidence was found in old archives of the Qing imperial court supporting his innocence. The Qianlong Emperor tried to express his kindness by searching for and rewarding Yuan's direct descendants, but failed to find any.[citation needed]
That was a rare thing to do, considering that Yuan was directly responsible for the killing of the Qing founder, Nuerhaci, by directing artillery fire onto his position in the 1626.
Not
Credit should be publicised for the foreign officers who planned and executed this.
Note the absence of others. Only 2 Singaporeans involved. If you take away LHL as the wayang showman, left only one.
Credit should be publicised for the foreign officers who planned and executed this.
Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokossovsky was a Soviet and Polish officer who became a Marshal of the Soviet Union, a Marshal of Poland, and served as Poland's Defence Minister from 1949 until his removal in 1956 during the Polish October. He became one of the most prominent Red Army commanders of World War II.
Aleksei Alekseyevich Brusilov (Russian: Алексе́й Алексе́евич Бруси́лов, romanized: Alekséj Alekséevič Brusílov; 31 August [O.S. 19 August] 1853 – 17 March 1926) was a Russian and later Soviet general most noted for the development of new offensive tactics used in the 1916 Brusilov Offensive, which was his greatest achievement. The innovative and relatively successful tactics used were later copied by the Germans[citation needed]. Born into the aristocracy to a father who was also a general, Brusilov trained as a cavalry officer, but by 1914 he realized that cavalry was obsolete in the new style of warfare because of its vulnerability to machine gun and artillery. Historians portray him as the only First World War Russian general capable of winning major battles. However, his heavy casualties seriously weakened the Russian army, which was unable to replace its losses.[1]
The reason why the Ming Dynasty collapse is due to all the loyal military officers being executed..like Hitler executing Rommel
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