Hi Lui Tuck Yew! PRC's 7 cities to build ECONOMICAL MONORAILs @1/5 cost of MRT

[uncleyap]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/local/2012-03/10/c_122816184.htm

津沪7城拟建"空轨"列车 吊在半空时速50公里(图)
2012年03月10日 08:01:34
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　　据法制晚报报道 为缓解城市拥堵，我国将首次引入空中轨道列车(“空轨”)建设。目前，浙江温州市有意向，拟建设首条运营线路，具体的规划研究正在加紧进行中。

　　全国政协委员冯幸耘在今年全国两会上提出《关于采用空中轨道交通系统缓解城市交通困难的建议》。
　　昨日上午，记者获悉，在温州“尝鲜”之后，城市“空轨”还有可能在天津、上海、济南、合肥、洛阳和石家庄等城市投入建设。多城市试点后，北京也有望投入建设。
　　“空轨”·设计
　　吊在半空行驶时速50公里
　　空中轨道列车属于城市快捷公交，是悬挂式单轨交通运输系统。轨道位于列车上方，由钢铁或水泥立柱支撑，列车被吊在半空中行驶。
　　此外，它以电力牵引为动力，解决了废气污染；它比地铁造价低、比轻轨占地面积小，在建造和运营方面有许多突出的特点和优点。
　　空中轨道列车每节车厢定员75人，四节车厢可承运15000人次/小时。按照设计的最高限额，它可以完成30000人次/小时的交通任务。
　　在喧哗热闹的城市上空，在拥挤的公路上方，“空轨”以每小时50公里的速度悄无声息地穿梭而过，安全、经济、快捷、舒适、无噪音、无污染，令人非常惬意。
　　“空轨”·造价
　　每公里成本比地铁少近7亿
　　参与“空轨”项目科研研究的北京交通大学岳兆宏教授表示，空中列车的悬挂式单轨交通模式，每公里造价前期为1.5亿，比建设地铁的造价能减少近7亿元。实施国产设备后，每公里成本可以降到5000万，低于高速公路建设。
　　除了价格上的优势，“空轨”系统建设速度比较快，几十公里的线路在3-5个月时间里就可以完成。
　　“这主要是因为该项目无需太多土木建设，只需直接实施打桩和吊装。”岳兆宏教授说。相比地铁、轻轨少则3年，多则5年甚至更长时间的建设周期和挖地、架桥等施工影响，可谓“省时省力”。
　　“空轨”·介绍
　　“空轨”逐渐引起人们重视
　　空中铁路（SkyTrain）是轨道交通的一个分支。基本原理与地铁、轻轨相似，在设计思维上与地铁则相反，采用悬挂式动力转向架，车厢亦是悬 挂式。空中铁路主要由控制中心、运行车辆、动力装置和轨道建设四个部分成。空中列车无人驾驶，电脑自动控制。监控和辅助任务由控制中心管理。运行监测、控 制车辆在任何时候的位置和状态。
　　空中轨道列车自1901年德国乌波塔尔线建设开始，距今已有110年的历史。
　　在日本、俄罗斯等国家，悬挂式轨道交通列车也已经运营多年，而且成为近年新建轨道交通项目的重要形式之一。“空轨”逐渐引起人们重视。
　　上图为空中轨道列车想象图。




I will just remind readers that @1/5 of MRT cost means 1/5 of PRC's MRT cost which may be 1/5 of famiLEE's MRT cost, so @1/5 of PRC's MRT cost will then mean @1/25 of famiLEE LEEgime's MRT cost.

Legal Evening News reported to relieve urban congestion, China will be the first to introduce air railway train ("air track") building. At present, Wenzhou City, Zhejiang Province, intent, planned to build the first operational line specific planning study is being stepped up in progress.

Feng Hsing Yun, a member of the CPPCC National Committee this year two on the air rail transit system to ease urban traffic difficulties.

Yesterday morning, the reporter was informed that, in Wenzhou "early adopters" city "empty rail may also invest in construction in cities such as Tianjin, Shanghai, Jinan, Hefei, Luoyang and Shijiazhuang. Pilot multi-city, Beijing is also expected to invest in construction.

"Empty rail" design

Hanging in mid-air driving speed of 50 km

The air rail train belonging to the city bus, is a suspended monorail transport system. The track is located in the train above the support by steel or concrete column, the train was hanging in the air travel.

In addition, the electric traction as a driving force to solve the pollution emissions; it is lower than the metro cost, build and operate than light rail, small footprint, has many outstanding features and benefits.

Air, rail train carriages Capacity 75 people, four cars to the carriage of 15,000 passengers / hour. In accordance with the design of the ceiling, it can complete the task of 30,000 people / hour traffic.

Over the city in the hubbub of the busy, over crowded highways, empty rail speed of 50 kilometers per hour, silently and the shuttle safe, economical, fast, comfortable, no noise, no pollution, very comfortable .

· Cost of the "air track"

The cost per kilometer of nearly 700 million less than the subway

"Air track" project research study in Beijing Jiaotong University Yuezhao Hong professor, said the the SkyTrain suspended monorail transport mode per kilometer cost of pre-150 million, reduced by nearly 700 million yuan more than the cost of construction of the subway. Implementation of domestic equipment, the cost per kilometer can be reduced to 50 million, lower than the highway construction.

In addition to the price advantage, the "empty rail system construction speed is relatively fast, dozens of kilometers of lines can be completed in 3-5 months time.

"This is mainly because the project does not need too many civil engineering and construction, only the direct implementation of the piling and lifting." Yue Zhaohong Professor said. Compared to the subway, light rail at least 3 years, more than five years or even longer construction period and digging, bridge and other construction impacts can be described as "save time and effort."

"Air track" introduction

Empty track "gradually attracted people attention

Air, rail (the SkyTrain) is a branch of rail transportation. Subway, light rail, the basic principles of design thinking with the MTR contrast, the use of a suspended power bogie carriages hanging. The air rail is the main control center, running vehicles, power equipment and track construction of four parts into. SkyTrain driverless, computer automatic control. Monitoring and support tasks from the control center management. Operational monitoring, control, vehicle location and status at any time.

Air, rail train since 1901 German Wubotaer line construction, dating back over 110 years of history.

Hanging rail transit train in Japan, Russia and other countries have also been operating for many years, and became one of the important form of new rail transit projects in recent years. Empty track "gradually drawing attention.

The picture shows the air rail train on imaginary map.

 

[uncleyap]

http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?110857-pics-Show-Lui-Tuck-Yew-how-they-built-MRT-Trains

There's mentioning in that news article on similar Russian systems. Can refer to above threads for more pics.

 

[killborat]

china made product...the carriages may drop onto the road...

 

[uncleyap]

china made product...the carriages may drop onto the road...

No such thing. Do you know that there are just MANY levels of Chinese product standards? Their space rockets, missiles, military products are by far the most reliable standard above USA & Russian. Then they have the poor peasants' cheap products that are made behind the barn yards of farmers' villages. Any way, the most reputable brands of qualities, are all made in PRC these days. Apple's i-phone i-pad, Japs brands, Taiwanese mother boards, Ang Moh's Seagates HDD, Nike sports items, garments, bags, furniture of Ikea, etc etc, you will lost count. Where are they made and by who? Answers are all PRC.:p

 

[davetan3]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1188579/1/.html

 

[uncleyap]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1188579/1/.html

This is not deemed as quality issue. Natural climate can damage infrastructure always. Big Quakes Rains Snow Landslides Tsunami can take man-made infrastructure down. Even HDB flats are subjected to the same if Tsunami landed on reddot, don't expect any building to remain standing.

 

[Bigfuck]

No such thing. Do you know that there are just MANY levels of Chinese product standards? Their space rockets, missiles, military products are by far the most reliable standard above USA & Russian. Then they have the poor peasants' cheap products that are made behind the barn yards of farmers' villages. Any way, the most reputable brands of qualities, are all made in PRC these days. Apple's i-phone i-pad, Japs brands, Taiwanese mother boards, Ang Moh's Seagates HDD, Nike sports items, garments, bags, furniture of Ikea, etc etc, you will lost count. Where are they made and by who? Answers are all PRC.:p

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True, but beware of China infrastructural projects. Infrastructural projects are known to be projects for pocketing monies for going to ktv and fucking meimeis as well as buying new mercedes series.
There is a limit how cheap you can build and you need to look at the budget including the projected operating costs. I know of scams in international aid projects where diesel power generators were provided to Africa with no one looking in the availability of diesel, schools built with no operating budgets for running them. Consumer products today have short life span and there are many competing companies in China for the foreign monies - they will try to maintain and not fuck it up, because it could mean no more business for them. For large infrastructural projects like dams and tunnels under water bodies, those are scary. The problem happens years after and there is no guaranteed legal recall (forget fuckers who tell you we have law for this that when it is almost never fucking practiced) for latent defects and no one factors in a operating costs. Fucking salesmen will tell you can build something that lasts for 10 years but after 2nd year, maintainence costs start escalating such that after 10 years, if you had gotten the 1.5 times more expensive company, you save operational costs equal to the fucking construction in the first place. Because of budgeting issues by public sector, chances are they have very fucking little maintainence budget in the first place. UY, you need to be more sensitive to such issues. Sure, China can make many things (though fake and real are mixed together as China is good at faking their real level of technology), but who has access to the products? The best products made in China are not consumed in China. Remember. Chances if the products we consumed are made available in China on a large scale, the quality will go to fuckland. It is business culture in China, nothing personal.

 

[uncleyap]

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True, but beware of China infrastructural projects. Infrastructural projects are known to be projects for pocketing monies ....

It was true when PRC wanted the national speed rail projects to develop and highest efficientcy the top closed one eye in the corruptions involving these people during the project's crucial phase. They did not want to arrest to slow things down. After the completion however the axe and bullets rained down. The rails minister sentenced and many followers on death row. It was rampant corruption but the completion of the big economically crucial project was faster than on time. The corrupts are caught but not immediately. Enforcement were held back temporary because the top leaders needed the rails up. Every CNY there had been ultra-heavy needs to fulfill and every year increased by a lot. That is due to the economy getting ahead of transport infrastructure, and became a choke point. Once the choke cleared they catch the corrupts, 兔死狗烹!

 

[uncleyap]

Liu Tuck Yew's NEL again fucked up for 8 hrs.....

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_777912.html

[h=1]NEL trains resume service before 5pm, earlier than expected[/h]
Published on Mar 15, 2012

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A crowd awaits as the first train from the Harbourfront station arrives at the Dhoby Ghaut station at 4:58pm. There was a disruption of train services along the North-East Line (NEL) from Habourfront to Dhoby Ghaut stations. Trains from both stations resumed services earlier than expected. -- ST PHOTO: ALPHONSUS CHERN

By Cherie Thio , Chong Ning Qian , Chow Jia Ying and Jalelah Abu Baker
Trains from Harbourfront and Dhoby Ghaut stations resumed services earlier than expected.
Services from Harbourfront resumed at 4.45pm and from Dhoby Ghaut at 4.40pm.
Trains were inconsistent for about an hour, and screens did not display timings for the next train till 5.45pm.
Trains towards Punggol also lagged for about 10 minutes, but commuters did not appear ruffled by the wait. They also did not leave.

 

[cleareyes]

No such thing. Do you know that there are just MANY levels of Chinese product standards? Their space rockets, missiles, military products are by far the most reliable standard above USA & Russian. Then they have the poor peasants' cheap products that are made behind the barn yards of farmers' villages. Any way, the most reputable brands of qualities, are all made in PRC these days. Apple's i-phone i-pad, Japs brands, Taiwanese mother boards, Ang Moh's Seagates HDD, Nike sports items, garments, bags, furniture of Ikea, etc etc, you will lost count. Where are they made and by who? Answers are all PRC.:p

before u shoot ur mouth off, had u consider the land avaliable to build such railway in china compare with what is avaliable in Singapore?

and u want to talk abt Chinese products that MOST chinese cannot afford to get?

Its no wonder every politician u r related to actually failed.

 

[Kinana]

China made one I don't trust.

 

[uncleyap]

before u shoot ur mouth off, had u consider the land avaliable to build such railway in china compare with what is avaliable in Singapore?

and u want to talk abt Chinese products that MOST chinese cannot afford to get?

Its no wonder every politician u r related to actually failed.

Before you Kay Kiang PAp moron, read carefully and think using your tinny canine brain!

There is no issue of land as we are talking about URBAN monorail which idiot LEEgime also built on tiny tiny Sentosa! Not rural country heavy rails. :p PRC's city building density is even more dense than red dot because they Don't make HDBs there. The whole idea here is to have it at tiny expense of land because it is only using a small steel support column on the land while the rest of light structure are suspended off the ground.

You never go to Sentosa is it? :*:

 

[Kinana]

Before you Kay Kiang PAp moron, read carefully and think using your tinny canine brain!

There is no issue of land as we are talking about URBAN monorail which idiot LEEgime also built on tiny tiny Sentosa! Not rural country heavy rails. :p PRC's city building density is even more dense than red dot because they Don't make HDBs there. The whole idea here is to have it at tiny expense of land because it is only using a small steel support column on the land while the rest of light structure are suspended off the ground.

You never go to Sentosa is it? :*:

ER, Beijing more dense than Singapore? Labour rates the same? The rail built in Beijing only? How much of rail built underground?
Property owners compensated the same amount as Singaporeans for land acquisition? China compensated for land taken at all?
Eh uncle, use your blain ok? Lets talk sense shall we rather than pushing your agenda to bash our govt.

 

[uncleyap]

ER, Beijing more dense than Singapore? Labour rates the same? The rail built in Beijing only? How much of rail built underground?
Property owners compensated the same amount as Singaporeans for land acquisition? China compensated for land taken at all?
Eh uncle, use your blain ok? Lets talk sense shall we rather than pushing your agenda to bash our govt.

No need to attack or argue over the details, LEEgime inefficiency and incompetency is already too clear to be seen by the world in no just Land Transportation. Cost is too high and Quality is Too Low. Break down every where every now and than. Labour is more expensive in many places else than SG and yet Land Transportation are Cheap & Safe & Good better quality than SG. I got too much material on these things exposed. More are coming.

LEEgime's myth of high efficiency is gone.

 

[davetan3]

a heavy rainfall is not a tsunami.

 

[Kinana]

No need to attack or argue over the details, LEEgime inefficiency and incompetency is already too clear to be seen by the world in no just Land Transportation. Cost is too high and Quality is Too Low. Break down every where every now and than. Labour is more expensive in many places else than SG and yet Land Transportation are Cheap & Safe & Good better quality than SG. I got too much material on these things exposed. More are coming.

LEEgime's myth of high efficiency is gone.

Come on la uncle Yap, no disrespect meant you being older but you really got to be more balanced and therefore credible in your presentations man.
I pointed out glaring deficiencies in your claim with natural logical questions and you swept them aside cos you obviously cannot counter them. Why should anyone listen or believe in you? You think we Singaporeans are stupid is it?

You just got to do a better job uncle Yap.