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Hamas is Israel's Creation!

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To all the American cock-sucking retards here who blame Hamas (and even China!) for the current Israeli-Gaza conflict, think again. Who supported them? Who allowed funds to flow to them from Qatar? (Analogy: the creation of the Taliban monster by the CIA.)

Why back Islamist terrorists (Hamas) against secularists (PLO)?

1. The PLO was pragmatists: they were willing to settle for the 2-state solution, which has the backing of the majority of the UN. The far right and ultra-orthodox Jews wanted a one-state solution. Playing Hamas against PLO would work towards dismantling the 2-state ideal.
2. Hamas terrorism gives Israel a valid reason to blockade and eventually take over Gaza, thus cementing the one-state dream of the Zionists.

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BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

Mehdi Hasan, Dina Sayedahmed
February 19 2018, 7:00 a.m.

WHAT DO YOU know about Hamas?

That it’s sworn to destroy Israel? That it’s a terrorist group, proscribed both by the United States and the European Union? That it rules Gaza with an iron fist? That it’s killed hundreds of innocent Israelis with rocket, mortar, and suicide attacks?

But did you also know that Hamas — which is an Arabic acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” — would probably not exist today were it not for the Jewish state? That the Israelis helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the late 1970s into one of the world’s most notorious militant groups? That Hamas is blowback?

This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists. “I … suggest focusing our efforts on finding ways to break up this monster before this reality jumps in our face,” he wrote.


They didn’t listen to him. And Hamas, as I explain in the fifth installment of my short film series for The Intercept on blowback, was the result. To be clear: First, the Israelis helped build up a militant strain of Palestinian political Islam, in the form of Hamas and its Muslim Brotherhood precursors; then, the Israelis switched tack and tried to bomb, besiege, and blockade it out of existence.

In the past decade alone, Israel has gone to war with Hamas three times — in 2009, 2012, and 2014 — killing around 2,500 Palestinian civilians in Gaza in the process. Meanwhile, Hamas has killed far more Israeli civilians than any secular Palestinian militant group. This is the human cost of blowback.

“When I look back at the chain of events, I think we made a mistake,” David Hacham, a former Arab affairs expert in the Israeli military who was based in Gaza in the 1980s, later remarked. “But at the time, nobody thought about the possible results.”

They never do, do they?

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
 
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The Israel-Hamas war has an important lesson for world leaders

As annoying as it may be to negotiate with a self-righteous secular democrat, the concessions are most likely to be less expensive than the death and displacement of thousands of innocent and unsuspecting masses.

By Sriram Iyer Oct 13, 2023 11:30:05 AM IST (Updated)​


The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Whatever the world’s strongmen leaders fear of the secular forces, the fundamentalists can pull off something even worse. That’s what Hamas has shown in Israel.

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Cohen is not the only one, as journalists Mehdi Hasan and Dina Sayedahmed record in The Intercept.

The Israeli logic of the time, in the 1970s, was to divide the Palestinian polity. This weakened a relatively secular Yaseer Arafat, fighting for the Palestinian cause, in favour of Hamas, the outfit behind the terrorist attacks in the country on October 7.

The same Hamas has now grown into a lethal force, which Israel, with all its military might, has not been able to obliterate.

This pattern has played out time and again within the living memory of even millennials. Whether it’s Al Qaeda, the Taliban in Afghanistan, or theestablishment in Pakistan that allowed the Taliban to regroup on its soil, even the US repeatedly created demons that it weaponises until it loses control over them.

Even Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is courting supporters (often violent) of Khalistan, a movement that aims to separate the state of Punjab from India, to regain some of his lost popularity within Canada, starting with the large Sikh population in the country. This led to a sharp rebuke, to say the least, from the Narendra Modi government in New Delhi.

Indian politicians have flirted with a similar idea in the past i.e. helping the Khalistan cause for their own political gains. However, there was a heavy price to pay once the same politicians decided that they didn't like the idea of Khalistan anymore. But by then, the beast had become to big for their control and the crisis, eventually, led to the assassination of the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, in 1984.

The rise of Hamas was a strategic misstep by Israel

It must serve as a lesson in geopolitics for everyone in the world. No opportunity is worth the creation or empowerment of a violent extremist outfit at the expense of an elected leader — national, provincial or local — whose actions display a commitment to democratic values, as much as you may disagree with him/her on specific issues.

The continuing support of the West for national establishments that back other terror outfits, like Pakistan, is one example where a correction is overdue. Similarly, the repressive regime in Egypt, which came to power by overthrowing democratically-elected Mohamed Morsi, continues to get billions in aid from the US even now.

For instance, one of the moors of the US’ relationship with Egypt has been to protect the interest of Israel. Even on the count, as the latest attack on Israel has shown, the strategy hasn’t worked, as a foreign policy analyst at the Cato Institute recorded recently.

These questions remain — between the US and Saudi Arabia, India and Russia, Australia and China. There may be many other examples, across the world, with varying degrees of nuance and dilemma.

Moral certitudes are rare in international relations. In land and border disputes, the moral basis of every claim only gets murkier with every passing generation. However, it’s definitely worth asking who is worth doing business with, and at what cost (now as well as in the future).

As annoying as it may be to negotiate with a self-righteous secular democrat, the concessions are most likely to be less expensive than the death and displacement of thousands of innocent and unsuspecting masses.

 

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ISIS and Taliban were also USA's own creation.

Western AMDKs were busy funding and supporting the Islamic groups in 50s-80s to go against the Commies.

For example the CIA gave support ($$$ and namelist) to the Islamic groups in Indonesia to massacre Communists and Chinese during the overthrow of Sukarno.
 

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To all the American cock-sucking retards here who blame Hamas (and even China!) for the current Israeli-Gaza conflict, think again. Who supported them? Who allowed funds to flow to them from Qatar? (Analogy: the creation of the Taliban monster by the CIA.)

Why back Islamist terrorists (Hamas) against secularists (PLO)?

1. The PLO was pragmatists: they were willing to settle for the 2-state solution, which has the backing of the majority of the UN. The far right and ultra-orthodox Jews wanted a one-state solution. Playing Hamas against PLO would work towards dismantling the 2-state ideal.
2. Hamas terrorism gives Israel a valid reason to blockade and eventually take over Gaza, thus cementing the one-state dream of the Zionists.

* * *

BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

Mehdi Hasan, Dina Sayedahmed
February 19 2018, 7:00 a.m.

WHAT DO YOU know about Hamas?

That it’s sworn to destroy Israel? That it’s a terrorist group, proscribed both by the United States and the European Union? That it rules Gaza with an iron fist? That it’s killed hundreds of innocent Israelis with rocket, mortar, and suicide attacks?

But did you also know that Hamas — which is an Arabic acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” — would probably not exist today were it not for the Jewish state? That the Israelis helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the late 1970s into one of the world’s most notorious militant groups? That Hamas is blowback?

This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists. “I … suggest focusing our efforts on finding ways to break up this monster before this reality jumps in our face,” he wrote.


They didn’t listen to him. And Hamas, as I explain in the fifth installment of my short film series for The Intercept on blowback, was the result. To be clear: First, the Israelis helped build up a militant strain of Palestinian political Islam, in the form of Hamas and its Muslim Brotherhood precursors; then, the Israelis switched tack and tried to bomb, besiege, and blockade it out of existence.

In the past decade alone, Israel has gone to war with Hamas three times — in 2009, 2012, and 2014 — killing around 2,500 Palestinian civilians in Gaza in the process. Meanwhile, Hamas has killed far more Israeli civilians than any secular Palestinian militant group. This is the human cost of blowback.

“When I look back at the chain of events, I think we made a mistake,” David Hacham, a former Arab affairs expert in the Israeli military who was based in Gaza in the 1980s, later remarked. “But at the time, nobody thought about the possible results.”

They never do, do they?

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
Stop educating the idiots here. Ignorance is better for them.
 

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