GVGT! main land tourist told off Taiwanese sucker! Give Up! You lost flat out! Go mainland & compare you loser! We definately will rule you! Suckers!

[democracy my butt]

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2019-08-20/doc-ihytcitn0438308.shtml

大陆游客怼台独:你自己发展20多年还这么差 还努力啥

大陆游客怼台独:你自己发展20多年还这么差 还努力啥



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原标题：大陆游客怼“台独”：你自己发展了二十多年还这么差，还努力啥？
[文/观察者网 谷智轩]今天，一段台湾播客采访大陆青年游客的视频在微博上火了。
面对台湾播客“我们为什么不能努力往台湾自己的方向去走”的问题，该游客不假思索地“打脸”，“（两岸）迟早要统一，你们自己发展了二十多年还这么差，还努力啥啊？你去大陆看一下。”
台湾播客“不服气地”追问，“（既然台湾）那么差，我看你在这边玩得很开心啊。”
“我去差的地方玩不代表我不开心啊，我去柬埔寨我也很开心啊。”大陆游客的回答，令网友直呼：哈哈太直白了！

微博视频截图 下同

观察者网第一时间联系到了这位来自山东的杨姓游客，他在接受采访时，依然对台媒当时的说法感到气愤。
据杨先生介绍，上月他和几名友人自由行至高雄，可能是由于自己的大陆口音，被台媒“相中”为采访对象。
台湾播客对杨先生称，“台湾曾经被日本占据过，应该是属于日本的。”
对于这一违反常识的言论，杨先生对观察者网表示，“太荒唐了，自己当时就气不打一处来，于是出现了视频中比较激动的讲话语气”。
随后，播客很突兀地问道，“你们来台湾需不需要护照？”
杨先生表示，“他可能不懂，以为要用护照，想通过这个来证明台湾不属于中国。”
嗯，瞬间翻车。
去过台湾的朋友都知道，台湾自由行根本用不到护照，只需要《大陆居民往来台湾通行证》以及《入台证》。
杨先生顺势又给了播客科普了一记，“我去香港也要用通行证，那代表香港不是中国的吗？”
“这是“一国两制”的问题，不是‘是不是中国的问题’，”杨先生接着讲道，“只是迟早要统一。”

据杨先生透露，他本次入台，游览了台北、高雄两个城市，“发展了二十多年还这么差”并不是自己单方面的感受，同样的话也出自不少当地出租车司机之口。
“有些司机跟我说，台湾还停留在二十多年前，政客整天就斗，不干实事。”他补充道。
而作为台湾地区主要城市之一的高雄，用杨先生自己话描述，基础设施、城市建设等“也就跟大陆三四线城市水平差不多”，消费水准也相对较低。
至于为什么要拿台湾跟柬埔寨一起说事，杨先生表示，自己对柬埔寨没有恶意和偏见，虽然感觉该国经济有待发展，但旅游体验还是不错的，尤其推荐吴哥窟。
采访末了，杨先生特别强调，部分台媒针对大陆有关“茶叶蛋、榨菜”的报道也让自己十分气愤。
“由此可见，他们对大陆的信息屏蔽太严重了，充满选择性报道，就是‘假民主’。”杨先生这样总结道。



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Mainland tourists are Taiwan independence: you have been developing for 20 years and still so poor.
Mainland tourists are Taiwan independence: you have been developing for 20 years and still so poor.
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Original title: Mainland tourists 怼 "Taiwan independence": Have you developed yourself for more than 20 years, still so bad, still trying hard?

[Text / Observer Network Gu Zhixuan] Today, a video of a Taiwanese podcast interviewing young mainland tourists was on fire on Weibo.

In the face of the Taiwan podcast "Why can't we try our best to go to Taiwan's own direction?", the tourists will "face" without thinking, "(the two sides of the strait) will be unified sooner or later, and you have developed yourself for more than 20 years, still so bad, still Hard work? Go to the mainland to see."

Taiwan podcasts "not convinced" to ask, "(Since Taiwan) is so bad, I see you have a good time here."

"I don't mean that I am not happy when I go to a bad place. I am very happy when I go to Cambodia." The answer from mainland tourists made the netizen call: Haha is too straightforward!

Weibo video screenshot

The Observer Network contacted the Yang surnamed tourist from Shandong for the first time. In an interview, he was still angry at the Taiwanese media’s statement at the time.

According to Mr. Yang, last month he and several friends traveled freely to Kaohsiung. Perhaps because of his mainland accent, he was interviewed by the Taiwan media “Zhongzhong”.

Taiwanese podcasts said to Mr. Yang, "Taiwan was once occupied by Japan and should belong to Japan."

Regarding this common sense remark, Mr. Yang said to the observer network, "It is too ridiculous, and he did not fight at the time, so there was a more excited speech in the video."

Later, the podcast asked abruptly, "Do you need a passport when you come to Taiwan?"

Mr. Yang said, "He may not understand, thinking that he wants to use a passport and wants to prove that Taiwan does not belong to China."

Well, roll over in an instant.

Friends who have been to Taiwan know that Taiwan’s free travel does not use passports at all. It only requires the "Taiwanese Pass for Mainland Residents" and the "Taiwan Pass".

Mr. Yang gave the podcast science a record, "I have to use a pass to go to Hong Kong. Does that mean that Hong Kong is not China?"

"This is a question of "one country, two systems", not a question of whether it is China or not," Mr. Yang continued. "It is only to be unified sooner or later."

According to Mr. Yang, he has entered the stage and visited the two cities of Taipei and Kaohsiung. "It has not been so bad for more than 20 years." It is not a unilateral feeling. It is also from many local taxi drivers. mouth.

"Some drivers told me that Taiwan still stays more than 20 years ago, and politicians fight all day, not doing anything," he added.

As one of the major cities in Taiwan, Kaohsiung uses Mr. Yang’s own words to describe that infrastructure and urban construction are “similar to the level of the mainland’s third- and fourth-tier cities” and the level of consumption is relatively low.

As for why Taiwan is to talk with Cambodia, Mr. Yang said that he has no malice and prejudice against Cambodia. Although he feels that the country's economy needs to be developed, the tourism experience is good, especially recommending Angkor Wat.

At the end of the interview, Mr. Yang particularly emphasized that some Taiwanese media reported that they were very angry about the mainland’s reports on “tea eggs and mustard”.

"It can be seen that their information shielding on the mainland is too serious, full of selective reports, that is, 'fake democracy'." Mr. Yang concluded.
Keywords : Mainland Taiwan Taiwan independence
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[democracy my butt]

74 yo antique submarine refurbished by Taiwan navy to struggle for another 10 years lifespan!

Pathetic or not?

10X worst than ABNN Indian Navy!

50X worse than NK Kim Jong Nuke Navy!

Remember NK Sub sank Kim Chi Warship Cheonan with Torpedo broke it into 2 halves!




https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-08-20/doc-ihytcern2147692.shtml

台军74岁古董潜艇翻修后重返部队 还将继续服役10年

台军74岁古董潜艇翻修后重返部队 还将继续服役10年



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台岛海军高龄74岁的一艘潜艇，居然又服役了！这艘老掉牙的潜艇，到底还能不能打仗？

台媒体19日报道中承认，这是一艘被全球海军视为“祖师爷级”的老潜艇，就是台海军从美国获得的“海狮”号潜艇。去年这一74岁的潜艇，经过台船企业长达16个月的整体翻修后，于年中返回部队，潜艇训练与反潜作战任务。台海军声称预计它可继续服役10年。
台防务机构近日也安排翻修后的“海狮”号潜艇，首度公开曝光，证明在台自制潜艇“IDS”正式服役潜前，“海狮”号潜艇仍能继续担任日常战备任务。不仅如此，“海狮”号潜艇还获得今年的台“模范团体”称号。
“海狮”号潜艇官兵利用潜望镜侦察水面动态。

这一高龄的“海狮”号潜艇，属于二次世界大战时期的美国产物，在别的地方早已退役，但台海军无法获得新潜艇，只得继续将其保留在部队之中。至今已经高龄74岁的“海狮”号潜艇，经过台船号召内外厂商，进行16个月全面翻修后，在舰上老旧零件及系统的商业购买渠道已经全部消失的前提下，负责翻修的台船找来多家岛上厂商合作，才解决了零件问题。最终该企业船厂终于顺利让“海狮”号重获战斗力，可以继续执勤。
目前的这一潜艇，配备三台FM型柴油机，双轴，4800匹马力。另外还有两部“奥爱特”型电动机，双轴，5400匹马力。配备了126对电池和两个螺旋桨推进器。使用柴油-电力推进方式。“海狮”号装备SQR-2B、BQS一4C的声纳系统，它的同型潜艇“海豹”装备单边携带的UQC型声纳，配备的水面侦察雷达为AN/SPS一2型。在武器方面，该潜艇主要依靠大型鱼雷。配有533毫米MKl4—3A型鱼雷的发射管共10个。规划中的改进项目，最抢眼的是配备反舰导弹。被称为“飞镖计划”为荷兰造“海龙”级潜艇加装潜射美国“鱼叉”导弹的项目，首艘已近完成，但是“海狮”号的改装情况未明。
客观的说，“海狮”号潜艇的水下作战能力，仍有相当的威胁，这主要是鱼雷对舰艇的杀伤力很强。但潜艇更大的威胁来自于其水面、水下战场感知和打击体系能力，而不仅仅是单纯看鱼雷等武器，“海狮”在整体上已经落后太多，对战局的影响有限。

“海狮”号潜艇原名CUTLASS（短弯剑），由美国新罕布夏州（State oF-New Hampshire）海军造船厂承造，于二战前后正式服役。随后，由于二战结束，该潜艇未参与战斗。美国决定将其进行改造。由美国朴资茅斯（Portsmouth）造船厂改装成改进型配置的潜艇。台海军在几乎30年后，才获得了这一当时就已经远远落后的古董潜艇。该军种当时派遣官兵，前往美国佛罗里达州西岛海军基地接舰成军，命名为“海狮军舰”。一年多后，这一潜艇终于开赴台本岛基地，这是台首艘服役的潜艇，迄今已在台海军手中执勤45年。
由于潜艇在潜航过程中，官兵们承受与一般水面舰艇不同的心理压力，台海军特意为该部队提供不少优待。在不见天日的环境中执行任务，船员只能透过船钟知道时间的流逝。特别是在航训期间，为了节约用水，不能天天洗澡，只以擦澡方式清洁，而且还要完成复杂而风险很大的作战训练任务。据报道，长期训练下来，官兵们的抗“压力”能力比一般人好。

由于这一潜艇空间很小，艇上官兵都使用“热舖”方式，两三人轮流睡同一张床。报道称空间狭小也有其优势，艇员必须近距离互动，互相之间感情更加紧密。这甚至让许多“海狮”号潜艇的官兵们，在相关任务岗位上一待竟然就是20年以上，透过长期互动与训练后，彼此的默契与本职学能更加扎实。不过，这也充分说明了台海军招募不力，也没有有效的实现新老接班的必须操作。
无论如何，“海狮”号潜艇再度刷新了全球最老的柴油潜艇服役的世界纪录，值得给予关注。（作者署名：空中世界加特林）

The 74-year-old antique submarine of the Taiwan military will return to the army after renovation and will continue to serve for 10 years.
The 74-year-old antique submarine of the Taiwan military will return to the army after renovation and will continue to serve for 10 years.
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A 74-year-old submarine from the Taidao Navy is actually serving again! Can this old submarine still fight?

The Taiwan media reported on the 19th that it was an old submarine that was regarded by the global navy as a "grandfather of the ancestors", and the "Sea Lion" submarine obtained by the Taiwan Navy from the United States. Last year, the 74-year-old submarine returned to the army, submarine training and anti-submarine warfare missions in the middle of the year after a 16-month overall renovation of the Taiwanese shipping company. The Taiwan Navy claims that it is expected to continue to serve for 10 years.

The Taiwan Defense Agency recently arranged the refurbished "Sea Lion" submarine for the first time public exposure, proving that the "Sea Lion" submarine can continue to serve as a daily combat mission before the Taiwanese submarine "IDS" officially served. Not only that, the "Sea Lion" submarine also won the title of "model group" of Taiwan this year.

The "Sea Lion" submarine officers and men used the periscope to detect the dynamics of the water surface.

This old "Sea Lion" submarine belongs to the American products of the Second World War. It has already been retired elsewhere, but the Taiwan Navy cannot obtain new submarines and has to keep it in the army. Up to now, the 74-year-old "Sea Lion" submarine has been called by the Taiwanese and Taiwanese manufacturers to carry out a 16-month comprehensive renovation. After the commercial purchase channels of the old parts and systems on the ship have all disappeared, the platform for renovation is underway. The ship found a number of island manufacturers to cooperate to solve the problem of parts. In the end, the company’s shipyard finally succeeded in getting the “Sea Lion” to regain its combat effectiveness and can continue to perform on duty.

The current submarine is equipped with three FM diesel engines, two axles and 4,800 horsepower. There are also two "Aotech" electric motors, two axles, 5,400 horsepower. Equipped with 126 pairs of batteries and two propellers. Use diesel-electric propulsion. The "Sea Lion" is equipped with the sonar system of SQR-2B and BQS-4C. Its similar submarine "sea seal" is equipped with UQC type sonar carried on one side, and the surface reconnaissance radar equipped with AN/SPS-2. In terms of weapons, the submarine relies mainly on large torpedoes. A total of 10 launch tubes with 533 mm MKl4-3A torpedoes. The most eye-catching improvement projects in the planning are equipped with anti-ship missiles. Known as the "Dart Plan", the Dutch "Hailong" class submarine was equipped with a submerged US "Harpoon" missile. The first ship was near completion, but the modification of the "Sea Lion" was unknown.

Objectively speaking, the underwater combat capability of the "Sea Lion" submarine still has considerable threats. This is mainly because the torpedo has a strong lethal effect on the ship. However, the greater threat of submarines comes from their water surface, underwater battlefield perception and strike system capabilities, and not just the weapons such as torpedoes. The "sea lions" have fallen far behind in general and have limited impact on the war situation.

The "Sea Lion" submarine, formerly known as CUTLASS (short-bend sword), was built by the US Naf-New Hampshire Naval Shipyard and officially served before and after World War II. Subsequently, due to the end of World War II, the submarine did not participate in the battle. The United States decided to transform it. Converted into a modified submarine by the Portsmouth shipyard in the United States. After almost 30 years, the Taiwan Navy won the antique submarine that was far behind. At that time, the service dispatched officers and men to the Navy Base of West Island, Florida, and joined the ship, and named it "Sea Lion Warship." More than a year later, the submarine finally went to the base of Taiwan Island. This is the first submarine to serve. It has been in the hands of the Taiwan Navy for 45 years.

Because the submarines are in the process of snorkeling, the officers and men are subject to different psychological pressures than the general surface ships. The Taiwan Navy has specially provided many benefits to the troops. In the absence of a day in the environment, the crew can only know the passage of time through the ship clock. Especially during the air training, in order to save water, you can not take a bath every day, only clean by bathing, and also complete complex and risky combat training tasks. According to reports, after long-term training, officers and soldiers have better resistance to "stress" than ordinary people.

Due to the small space of the submarine, the officers and men on the boat used the "hot shop" method, and the two or three people took turns sleeping in the same bed. The report said that the space is small and has its advantages. The crew must interact closely and feel more close to each other. This has even allowed many officers and men of the "Sea Lion" submarine to stay in the relevant task positions for more than 20 years. Through long-term interaction and training, each other's tacit understanding and their own learning can be more solid. However, this also fully demonstrates that the recruitment of the Taiwan Navy is weak, and there is no effective operation to achieve the new and old succession.

In any case, the "Sea Lion" submarine has once again set the world record for the world's oldest diesel submarine service, which deserves attention. (Author's signature: Air World Gatlin)

 

[democracy my butt]

From now on, PLA Type 99A MBT remotely controls it own unman combat vehicle & drone as combat companions to clear ambush & suspected anti-tank hot-spots.

Piak away threats from safe distance, using drones & unman vehicles remotely controlled within the tanks.

World unique advantage.

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-08-20/doc-ihytcitn0494109.shtml

中国陆军已列装无人战车 可由99A坦克遥控作战(图)

2019年08月20日 11:18 新浪军事



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　　国产无人地面战车亮相训练场
近日CCTV报道陆军某合成旅训练，训练之中国产无人地面战车（UGCV）公开亮相。表明国产无人地面战车已经列装部队，陆军武器装备即将迈入无人化时代。
从相关报道可以清楚看到，陆军正在以无人地面战车之列装为楔机，构建智能化战场体系。在这个体系之中无人系统地位越来越重要，用途也越来越广泛。节目之中指挥员非常明确说了一句话“（能够用无人系统解决问题）坚决不用人工破除”。

　　陆军正在构建智能化战场
新世纪无人地面战车是陆军武器装备发展一个热点，无人地面战车具备较高人工智能化，可以根据需要执行相关作战任务。这样就不需要士兵进入危险环境或者执行危险任务，既增强了士兵执行任务的能力，也提高了士兵战场生存能力。根据报道国外无人地面战车已经在实战得到运用，取得了一定战果。国内外普遍认为，2020年之后无人地面战车将会在战场得到更加广泛的运用，美国陆军规划之中新一代主战坦克可能就包括无人地面战车型号。
从珠海航展透露信息来看，国内相关单位已经展出过多种国产无人地面战车，例如中国兵器展出的锐爪系列无人地面战车。这些战车有用全地形底盘，具备较强地形通过能力，配备有先进探测设备和信息处理系统，具备较高的人工智能，可以根据任务自主规划线路，避开障碍物，探测和识别目标，有的还能够配备武器，例如机枪、机炮和轻型导弹，对目标进行打击。

　　无人地面战车正在走入实用

　　有的已经在实战之中运用
此次国产无人地面战车走上训练场，标志着国产无人地面战车已经走过前期技术研究阶段，开始实际运用。此次陆军某合成旅列装的无人机地面战车采用履带式底盘，保证地形通过能力。前后都有摄像头，让战车能够自主行驶，避开障碍物。不过从画面上来看它没有配备武器，主要用于破障、排爆等用途，提高破障效率，降低人员伤亡，一般认为现阶段无人地面战车载荷还比较小，只能配备中小口径武器和轻型导弹，相对而言打击能力也比较有限，只适合在非传统对抗环境执行任务，在传统军事任务之中作战效能相对有限。

　　国产无人地面战车，它配备有武器

　　列装国产无人地面战车主要用于破障
陆军合成旅列装无人地面战车也标志着我军数字化、信息化建设取得了长足进展。国产新一代宽速高速数据链、综合信息指挥系统、战术互联网已经列装部队，为我军构建智能化战场打下了坚实的基础，也为无人地面战车实用创造了条件。未来国产无人地面战车既可以根据后方指挥中心任务要求，自主执行巡逻、侦察、运输等任务。也可以配合99A主战坦克执行任务。99A主战坦克利用信息系统与无人地面战车进行信息交换，获取后者探测系统信息，得到更加完善的战场态势，后者也可以接受99A主战坦克命令，探测和识别、消灭目标。

　　智能化战场正在向我们走来

通过国产无人地面战车在实用之中取得的经验，还可以为将来国产四代主战坦克发展积累经验，进一步推动国产无人地面战车发展。（作者署名：小飞猪的防务观察）


The Chinese Army has installed unmanned combat vehicles. It can be operated by 99A tanks remotely (Figure)
August 20, 2019 11:18 Sina Military
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Domestic unmanned ground vehicles appeared in the training ground

Recently, CCTV reported on a certain synthetic brigade training of the Army, and the domestic unmanned ground vehicle (UGCV) was publicly unveiled during the training. It shows that the domestic unmanned ground vehicles have already installed troops, and the army weapons and equipment will soon enter the era of unmanned.

It can be clearly seen from the relevant reports that the Army is installing a wedge-type machine as an unmanned ground vehicle to build an intelligent battlefield system. In this system, the status of unmanned systems is becoming more and more important and its use is becoming more and more extensive. The commander in the program made a very clear statement "(can solve problems with unmanned systems) and resolutely eliminates the need to manually break."
The Army is building an intelligent battlefield

The new century unmanned ground vehicle is a hot spot in the development of the Army's weaponry. The unmanned ground vehicle has high artificial intelligence and can perform related combat tasks as needed. This eliminates the need for soldiers to enter dangerous environments or perform dangerous missions, which enhances the soldier's ability to perform missions and enhances the soldier's ability to survive on the battlefield. According to reports, foreign unmanned ground vehicles have been used in actual combat and have achieved certain results. It is widely believed at home and abroad that unmanned ground vehicles will be more widely used on the battlefield after 2020. The new generation of main battle tanks planned by the US Army may include unmanned ground vehicle models.

According to the information disclosed by Zhuhai Air Show, the relevant domestic units have exhibited a variety of domestic unmanned ground vehicles, such as the sharp-claw series of unmanned ground vehicles exhibited by Chinese weapons. These vehicles have all-terrain chassis, strong terrain capability, advanced detection equipment and information processing system, high artificial intelligence, can independently plan routes according to tasks, avoid obstacles, detect and identify targets, They can also be equipped with weapons, such as machine guns, machine guns and light missiles, to strike targets.
Unmanned ground vehicles are entering the practical
Some have been used in actual combat

The domestic unmanned ground vehicle went to the training ground, marking that the domestic unmanned ground vehicle has gone through the preliminary technical research stage and started to use it. The UAV ground vehicle installed in a synthetic brigade of the Army adopts a crawler chassis to ensure the terrain passing ability. There are cameras in front and rear to allow the chariot to drive autonomously and avoid obstacles. However, from the screen, it is not equipped with weapons, mainly used for obstacles, explosions, etc., to improve the efficiency of obstacles and reduce casualties. It is generally believed that the load of unmanned ground vehicles is still relatively small at this stage, and can only be equipped with small and medium-sized weapons. Compared with light missiles, the strike capability is relatively limited. It is only suitable for missions in non-traditional environments. The effectiveness of combat in traditional military missions is relatively limited.
Domestic unmanned ground vehicle, equipped with weapons
Listed domestic unmanned ground vehicles are mainly used for obstacles

The Army's synthetic brigade to install unmanned ground vehicles also marked a significant progress in the digitalization and informationization of our military. The domestically produced new-generation wide-speed high-speed data link, integrated information command system, and tactical Internet have already installed troops, which has laid a solid foundation for the construction of an intelligent battlefield for our military, and also created conditions for the practical use of unmanned ground vehicles. In the future, domestically-made unmanned ground vehicles can independently perform patrol, reconnaissance, transportation and other tasks according to the requirements of the rear command center. It can also be used in conjunction with the 99A main battle tank. The 99A main battle tank uses the information system to exchange information with the unmanned ground vehicle, obtains the information of the latter detection system, and obtains a more complete battlefield situation. The latter can also accept the 99A main battle tank command to detect and identify and destroy the target.
The intelligent battlefield is coming to us

Through the experience gained by the domestic unmanned ground vehicles in practical use, we can also accumulate experience for the development of domestically produced four-generation main battle tanks, and further promote the development of domestic unmanned ground vehicles. (Author's signature: Xiaofei pig's defense observation)