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Grace Fu Sets Condition for Wage Increase of the SG Peasants

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[h=2]Grace Fu: Workers’ salaries to increase in tandem with productivity gains[/h]
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October 28th, 2012 |
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If higher wages for cleaners were attained through productivity growth, why would the hawkers who are the customers be needing to pay higher fees?
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In a 20-minute keynote address at the Economic Society’s annual forum last Thu (25 Oct), Minister in PMO Grace Fu said Singapore is aiming for quality growth driven by productivity and innovation, not labour – and this will ensure sustainable wage growth.

She stressed that increasing productivity will ensure sustainable wage growth for Singaporeans. She then referred to the progressive wage model as an example of an inclusive growth strategy. She cited the cleaning industry as an example.

She noted that the progressive wage model for the cleaning industry spells out clear progression of wages with skills upgrading and training, allowing pay increase to move in tandem with productivity gains.

Ms Fu said, “The key point to note about this plan is that it is a targeted one, taking the needs of the cleaning industry (and) taking the needs of all the stakeholders, the employers, the employees and the companies into consideration. We believe this is a more effective and sustainable way of helping a targeted segment of our workers.”

In other words, what Ms Fu is saying is that cleaners can get higher wages as their productivity improves. So, for example, without the need to increase prices to customers, cleaning companies can in theory double the salaries of cleaning workers if half of the workers can still do the same amount of work as before through productivity gained.

So, say, previously, 4 cleaning workers, 2 locals and 2 foreigners with each earning $1,000 per month, were needed to clean a hawker centre everyday. Through mechanization and improvement in the cleaning process, only 2 cleaning workers, say, are needed now to clean the hawker centre everyday, but still able to achieve the same level of cleanliness.

Then in theory, the cleaning company can let go of the 2 foreign workers and retain the 2 locals, even paying them a salary of $2,000 per month now. The cleaning company still makes the same amount of profit as before, the customer is happy that cleanliness is not compromised and the workers are ecstatic with their salaries doubled. Everyone is happy. That, of course, is in theory.

But what is the actual situation on the ground?

Recently, National Environment Agency (NEA) announced that cleaning fees at 9 hawker centres will have to be increased, upsetting many hawkers at these centres (‘Hawkers upset at cleaning fee hikes by NEA‘).

The fee increase ranges from 79% to 156% in the 9 hawker centres. For example, at Holland Village Market and Food Centre, hawkers will now have to pay the new fee of $614 a month, up from $240. The 9 affected hawker centres all come under a single contract with cleaning contractor, Clean Solutions.

Replying to media enquiry, NEA said that the new rates are mainly due to higher wages for cleaners and training costs by cleaning contractors.

If higher wages for cleaners were attained through productivity growth, why would the hawkers who are the customers be needing to pay higher fees? And why would the hawkers be even paying for the training costs by the cleaning companies?

Something just doesn’t sound right. What do you think, Ms Fu?
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Recently, National Environment Agency (NEA) announced that cleaning fees at 9 hawker centres will have to be increased, upsetting many hawkers at these centres (‘Hawkers upset at cleaning fee hikes by NEA‘).

The fee increase ranges from 79% to 156% in the 9 hawker centres. For example, at Holland Village Market and Food Centre, hawkers will now have to pay the new fee of $614 a month, up from $240. The 9 affected hawker centres all come under a single contract with cleaning contractor, Clean Solutions.

Replying to media enquiry, NEA said that the new rates are mainly due to higher wages for cleaners and training costs by cleaning contractors.

If higher wages for cleaners were attained through productivity growth, why would the hawkers who are the customers be needing to pay higher fees? And why would the hawkers be even paying for the training costs by the cleaning companies?

Aiya... Government want productivity increase, higher wages for cleaners, but don't want to pay from own pocket. Classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Bet my bottom dollar the govt consulted the cleaning companies but never do so for the affected hawkers.
 
If higher wages for cleaners were attained through productivity growth, why would the hawkers who are the customers be needing to pay higher fees? And why would the hawkers be even paying for the training costs by the cleaning companies?

Her kind of logic is the kind of logic which they blindly, without even thinking the matter through. Together with the likes of Josephine Teo and Lawrence Wong, their PREPARED/WRITTEN comments are major cause of concern on the quality of 'ministers' that we have running this place.
 
The whole article sounds extremely ridicules.

"In other words, what Ms Fu is saying is that cleaners can get higher wages as their productivity improves. So, for example, without the need to increase prices to customers, cleaning companies can in theory double the salaries of cleaning workers if half of the workers can still do the same amount of work as before through productivity gained.

So, say, previously, 4 cleaning workers, 2 locals and 2 foreigners with each earning $1,000 per month, were needed to clean a hawker centre everyday. Through mechanization and improvement in the cleaning process, only 2 cleaning workers, say, are needed now to clean the hawker centre everyday, but still able to achieve the same level of cleanliness.

Then in theory, the cleaning company can let go of the 2 foreign workers and retain the 2 locals, even paying them a salary of $2,000 per month now. The cleaning company still makes the same amount of profit as before, the customer is happy that cleanliness is not compromised and the workers are ecstatic with their salaries doubled. Everyone is happy. That, of course, is in theory."

Honestly WHAT THE FUCK?
 
Productivity is always input vs output... Our cleaners productivity has been one of the best in the world - cheap and meeting objective.
 
What productivity? The cleaners are old people, how fast they want the cleaner to work?


Productivity is always input vs output... Our cleaners productivity has been one of the best in the world - cheap and meeting objective.
 
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Can someone tell Grace to treat her public appearances seriously? How can she wear a clown nose for public appearances?! That is unacceptable!
 
Aiya... Government want productivity increase, higher wages for cleaners, but don't want to pay from own pocket. Classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Bet my bottom dollar the govt consulted the cleaning companies but never do so for the affected hawkers.

because the cleaner companies have directors and shareholders who are lap dog grassroots suck dick members. arrogant PAP will not consult with people who make less money than them.
 
Wages increase through productivity is the correct way. However, the question is, how to increase productivity of cleaners? There is no investment nor engineering development for machinery in hawker dish washer which would help cleaners there to do a better and more productive job. Our dish washing cleaners here are more like slave or pure labour job which productivity is limited by the mortal physic. Also, business owners do not have the motivation to invest in machinery cos cheap foreign labours are easily available. If gov cut this easy supply, the businees owners will have no choice but to invest in machines to help with limited labour to increase to increase productivity.

And with new machinery, cleaners will be able to upgrade to operators and hence increase in wages for new skilled acquired for running the machines. There are many examples of these if you look hard enough at cleaners in other areas and in our current society.
 
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Each Hawker centre has 100 stalls on average. Even if 80% occupied. 300*80= 24000/mth. They employed 12 more old men and ladies?
 
Wages increase through productivity is the correct way. However, the question is, how to increase productivity of cleaners? There is no investment nor engineering development for machinery in hawker dish washer which would help cleaners there to do a better and more productive job. Our dish washing cleaners here are more like slave or pure labour job which productivity is limited by the mortal physic. Also, business owners do not have the motivation to invest in machinery cos cheap foreign labours are easily available. If gov cut this easy supply, the businees owners will have no choice but to invest in machines to help with limited labour to increase to increase productivity.

And with new machinery, cleaners will be able to upgrade to operators and hence increase in wages for new skilled acquired for running the machines. There are many examples of these if you look hard enough at cleaners in other areas and in our current society.

It is the whole system of operating food establishments. Cleaners double up as waiters, clearing used plates and utensils in high volume establishments like hawker centres. If we have people returning their utensils after food, there will not need to be so many cleaners. Existing cleaners can then be deployed to focus on cleaning up after customers leave, and generally keeping the establishment clean.
 
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Can someone tell Grace to treat her public appearances seriously? How can she wear a clown nose for public appearances?! That is unacceptable!


hi there


1. bro, this fool thing looks below par.
2. but if you want something worse than that.
3. pls try the zorro-monkeyfaced!
4. spot on!
 
Each Hawker centre has 100 stalls on average. Even if 80% occupied. 300*80= 24000/mth. They employed 12 more old men and ladies?

bro, u r right on this. collected a lot of money, but trying to get cheapest, lesser manpower to do the job. imagine 24k a mth. but only got 4 working every shift and only 2 swift. did NEA pocket all the money???
 
Productivity growth only benefits the rich.

"So, say, previously, 4 cleaning workers, 2 locals and 2 foreigners with each earning $1,000 per month, were needed to clean a hawker centre everyday. Through mechanization and improvement in the cleaning process, only 2 cleaning workers, say, are needed now to clean the hawker centre everyday, but still able to achieve the same level of cleanliness.

Then in theory, the cleaning company can let go of the 2 foreign workers and retain the 2 locals, even paying them a salary of $2,000 per month now. The cleaning company still makes the same amount of profit as before, the customer is happy that cleanliness is not compromised and the workers are ecstatic with their salaries doubled. Everyone is happy. That, of course, is in theory."

See, she says kong nia aka in theory. Song boh? Why don't they cut the MIWs by half and pay the surviving half double? Fucktard productivity?
BTW, she got a fucking huge and ugly nose
.:oIo:
 
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If we have people returning their utensils after food, there will not need to be so many cleaners. Existing cleaners can then be deployed to focus on cleaning up after customers leave, and generally keeping the establishment clean.

That is one way of doing it. However, getting customers to change behaviour is very difficult unless money is involved. The other way is for gov to limit the easy availability of cheap foreign labour. Then local enterprising citizens will have to find other creative ways to solve this problem and make profit out of it. That's how all businesses start.
 
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See, she says kong nia aka in theory. Song boh? Why don't they cut the MIWs by half and pay the surviving half double? Fucktard productivity?

You are correct. The MIW never follow what they preach. They are the most unproductive workers and wasted a lot of tax payers money with many unaccounted spending.
 
Productivity growth only benefits the rich.

"So, say, previously, 4 cleaning workers, 2 locals and 2 foreigners with each earning $1,000 per month, were needed to clean a hawker centre everyday. Through mechanization and improvement in the cleaning process, only 2 cleaning workers, say, are needed now to clean the hawker centre everyday, but still able to achieve the same level of cleanliness.

Then in theory, the cleaning company can let go of the 2 foreign workers and retain the 2 locals, even paying them a salary of $2,000 per month now. The cleaning company still makes the same amount of profit as before, the customer is happy that cleanliness is not compromised and the workers are ecstatic with their salaries doubled. Everyone is happy. That, of course, is in theory."

See, she says kong nia aka in theory. Song boh? Why don't they cut the MIWs by half and pay the surviving half double? Fucktard productivity?
BTW, she got a fucking huge and ugly nose
.:oIo:

PAP ministers ' salaries and bonuses linked to GDP is flawed.PAP ministers' salaries and bonuses Should be linked to bottom 20% of wage earners.
GDP do not measure the productivity (KPI) of the PAP ministers.Even if the PAP ministers sleep,shake leg and do nothing and talk cock but expenditure was allocated and spent on public infrastructures,the annual GDP will still go up.
The productivity (KPI) of PAP ministers relating to the following criteria:
Improvement of wages of workers --- Fail
Quality of life of ordinary citizens --Fail
Affordability of hdb housing --Fail
Control of costs of living --- Fail
Deferment of withdrawal of cpf money at 55 to 65 ---Fail
etc
etc
etc
Overall result = FAIL
Recommednation : Should be retrenched immediately.
 
Minister in PMO Grace Fu said Singapore is aiming for quality growth driven by productivity and innovation, not labour – and this will ensure sustainable wage growth.


As the Minister under the Prime Minister's table, Grace Fool can rest assured that she'll have a wage increase for every good blow job that she give to the Prime Minister..

Its in tandem with her party's aim for quality growth driven by productivity and innovation..
 
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