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Google threat to quit China

Char_Azn

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Step 1 - Insult first
Step 2 - When confronted, ask for proof, make the party busy digging for it
Step 3 - Insult again

Repeat step 2 to 3

Ur claimed that I claimed that I do not insult others. However I never did. Obviously if U said that I did, there should be a record in here somewhere. If U find it, U prove that I am wrong, no need to talk so much. Throw everything at me(if it exist) and make me LPPL. So far it looks more liek you're pulling facts out of your ass without the ability to support your claims. I can't doctor the records in here since I'm not a mod or the admin. U should be able to find something IF wat you said was really true
 

johnstonsiang

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Ur claimed that I claimed that I do not insult others. However I never did. Obviously if U said that I did, there should be a record in here somewhere. If U find it, U prove that I am wrong, no need to talk so much. Throw everything at me(if it exist) and make me LPPL. So far it looks more liek you're pulling facts out of your ass without the ability to support your claims. I can't doctor the records in here since I'm not a mod or the admin. U should be able to find something IF wat you said was really true

The TAO of MIW IB - keep your opponent busy, so that you are free to deal with your real target. :wink:
 

Char_Azn

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The TAO of MIW IB - keep your opponent busy, so that you are free to deal with your real target. :wink:

U dun need to dig. U should already know where it is since U claim U saw it. It's call adding substance to what U post. So far its endless ranting. No evidence whatsoever to support what Ur claims
 

johnstonsiang

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U dun need to dig. U should already know where it is since U claim U saw it. It's call adding substance to what U post. So far its endless ranting. No evidence whatsoever to support what Ur claims

Critics of MIW are ranters - so said MIW IB. Sing praises of MIW and you be safe from its IB, for they dictate what is the truth, and whats not. :rolleyes:
 

Char_Azn

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Critics of MIW are ranters - so said MIW IB. Sing praises of MIW and you be safe from its IB, for they dictate what is the truth, and whats not. :rolleyes:

I called U a ranter, I never said critics of MIW are ranters. Catherine Lim is not a ranter. Some of the MIW critics like Scroobal are not a ranters, they try to substantiate their claims with evidence. U on the other hand just try to substantiate your claims by changing the topic and conjuring random bullshit hoping that everyone else is dumb enough to believe U
 

johnstonsiang

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I called U a ranter, I never said critics of MIW are ranters. Catherine Lim is not a ranter. Some of the MIW critics like Scroobal are not a ranters, they try to substantiate their claims with evidence. U on the other hand just try to substantiate your claims by changing the topic and conjuring random bullshit hoping that everyone else is dumb enough to believe U

Quote: So far its endless ranting :rolleyes:
 

johnstonsiang

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Yes I already mentioned, I called U a ranter



Please do not equate yourself with "all MIW critics".

I give my word to Scroobal and will rest for now. If he continues with his obnoxious behaviour, then I will make him taste his own medicine. I am giving Scroobal face for now, not that I cannot take on this MIW IB. :wink:
 

Alamaking

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arr..... over liao har? haizzz

*Alamaking stand up and walk to his working comp, open his working files and sulks.........
 

Char_Azn

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arr..... over liao har? haizzz

*Alamaking stand up and walk to his working comp, open his working files and sulks.........

I was wondering when someone would want to put an end to this but fraid not, he said he'll be back if I dun change and I dun intend to :biggrin::biggrin:
 

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The real reason Google is leaving, time to get out of dodge!..:cool:

Google Bows To Chinese Writers
Vivian Wai-yin Kwok, 01.11.10, 04:34 AM EST


Google ( GOOG - news - people ) admitted its Google Books digital library project had infringed the copyrights of thousands of Chinese writers and made a public apology the first time since it started scanning books around the globe without authors' consent from 2004.

The Chinese Writers Association on Sunday posted on its Web site a letter in Chinese signed by Erik Hartmann, chief Asia-Pacific representative of Google Books. Hartmann confessed in the letter that Google had scanned and included a bunch of books written by Chinese writers into its digital library.


Get the full scoop here> Copyright Violations in China
Google admits its digital book-scanning project infringed copyrights and apologizes.
 

evisionary

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Google to quit over some human rights activist's account, its a joke right!

China is where the money will be. If I own Google I will definitely work closer with the Chinese authorities and that is call 'Guan Xi'.
 

singveld

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Frankly speaking. the Chinese won't miss them, they use mainly their own search engine anyway. Sohu, Baidu, etc. None of my colleagues are into google anyway. Google would be the only one losing out if they pull out

yeah lor, all the prc i saw do not use google, only me.

they want google to be gone, the communist party, they are the one doing the attacking.
 

singveld

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google challenge communist party, who will win?

SHANGHAI/SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Google Inc threatened to quit China, the world's biggest Internet market, warning it would no longer tolerate strict censorship of its Google.cn search engine.

The threat by the world's leading Internet search provider may win it praise for seemingly putting ethics above business, but give Microsoft and a handful of local rivals an edge in the huge yet problematic Chinese Internet market.

Google generated 53 percent of its $5.9 billion in third-quarter revenue outside the United States, although it does not disclose the size of its business in China.

While Google's potential exit from a Chinese search market that is growing at 40 percent would have little impact on its short-term revenues, analysts said that cutting itself out of this important market may carry a longer-term strategic cost.

Google issued its warning after discovering what it called "a sophisticated and targeted" cyber attack on its email service. Google said it believed hackers were targeting Chinese human rights activists.

That attack follows years of frustration in China for Google, which was heavily criticized for self-censorship when it entered the market in 2006.

China has more than 350 million Web surfers and annual search revenue topping $1 billion, but its Internet market has been a thorny one, with companies having to adhere to strict self-censorship rules dictated by Beijing.

Anyone disobeying those rules, which prohibit sites on sensitive issues like Tibetan independence or the outlawed Falun Gong spiritual movement, can have their site blocked or closed.

"Google's move is related to censorship and not a business decision at all," said a high-level industry executive close to Google's former China chief, Lee Kai Fu, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the subject's extreme sensitivity.

"Google has been agonizing for a very long over this decision. Since last year, Google was talking about making a gesture to show the Chinese government it will no longer tolerate strict censorship over its operations," the source said.

In a statement, Google's chief legal officer David Drummond said the cyber attacks and other attempts to limit free speech on the Web had prompted the company to review its China business.

"We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all," Drummond said.

LEAVING A HOLE

China is one of the few markets where Google is not a leader, lagging Baidu, which has a 60 percent share of the Chinese Internet search market versus Google's 30 percent.

Other homegrown Chinese Web firms that also practice self censorship include Web portal operators Sina and Sohu, two of the country's best known Internet names.

Microsoft recently launched a Chinese version of its highly hyped Bing search engine in China, and said it is taking the market very seriously. Microsoft, whose rival Hotmail e-mail service is also available in China, said it had no indication that any of its mail properties had been compromised in China.

A Google exit from China could open up the field for others, including Microsoft, and allow Baidu to increase its dominance.

"We believe there's a high chance that Google.cn will not be allowed to operate without censoring search results," JPMorgan analyst Dick Wei wrote in a note, adding Baidu would be a major beneficiary as it offers many of the same services as Google.

"If Google.cn is not allowed to run in China, this could also benefit up-and-coming search engines like Tencent's SoSo, Sohu's Sogou and NetEase's Youdao."

Shares of Google fell 1.3 percent in after-hours trading on Tuesday, while Baidu jumped 6.8 percent.

MOVE UNLIKELY?

While some reckon Google could ultimately leave China rather than continue to censor itself there, other observers saw the company's announcement as a strategic move as it braces for tough negotiations with China.

"My feeling is that it is more a comment than an announcement,' said Credit Suisse analyst Wallace Cheung. "It seems like a statement before meeting with China's government."

Others also doubted Google would pull out of China.

"We believe Google will probably stay as China is a vital market," said CLSA analyst Elinor Leung in a research note. "Any China Internet veteran understands the need to work within the system and the Chinese preference for gradual change."

Many of Google's primary services, such as Gmail and Google.com, became briefly inaccessible to many Chinese users last year, and its YouTube video site has been inaccessible there since March.

(Additional reporting by Doug Young in HONG KONG, Edwin Chan in LOS ANGELES and Jim Finkle in BOSTON; Editing by Ian Geoghegan)
 

evisionary

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Re: google challenge communist party, who will win?

See the Americans are good at marketing propaganda, they know eventually they are at the losing end if they really quits China.

Google said it was "business as usual" in China, after reports that the US Internet giant was stopping some local staff from working following its threat to pull out of the Asian country.

The statement came nearly a week after Google's shock announcement that it was considering abandoning its Chinese search engine, and could shut its China offices, over theft of its intellectual property by hackers.

"We gave our employees a holiday the day of the announcement so that we could run tests and scans internally to ensure that the network is safe and secure," Google said in an emailed reply to AFP inquiries.

"Google China employees are now back at work and it's business as usual."

Last week, the Beijing News reported that Google China engineers no longer had access to the company's global database and could no longer work, citing unnamed sources within the company.

Google has said it is no longer willing to bow to the communist country's army of Internet censors by filtering search results available on google.cn, but is still seeking talks with the Chinese government on a solution.

The United States has asked for an explanation from Beijing, and the State Department said Friday that a formal request would be made "in the coming days".

"It will express our concern for this incident and request information from China as to an explanation of how it happened and what they plan to do about it," State Department spokesman PJ Crowley told reporters.

China has sought to tamp down the controversy, saying the row will not affect Sino-US ties already frayed over a number of issues, from climate change to the value of the Chinese yuan and several trade disputes.

But Beijing also insisted that Google must obey its laws.

A commerce ministry spokesman said Friday that foreign firms should "respect the laws, public interest, culture and traditions in host countries, and take on social responsibilities accordingly".
 
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