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Google bans Communist Huawei phones from Android and Play Store!
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In Singapore you can be charged for spreading fake news like this. You're lucky the same can't happen in Ang Moh land.
You are of course entitled to your opinions even if they are rather far fetched.
However shouting at the top of your voice from the balustrades doesn't make what you say more credible. It just makes you look stupid.
Chinese actually did not plan to wipe out google and android and try to coexist with them at his stage. However Dotard is just forcing Chinese to do it instantly.
Chinese surely can replace Intel Qualcomm Google & Android all. It is just a matter of time. Dotard is committing suicide, forcing the remaining profitable US firms to commit suicide.
China will do it within 2 years. Chinese will pay relatively small price for a great (originally unintended) profits to come in just about 2 years. Great losses will be suffered by Americans and their partners / investors.
Chinese surely can replace Intel Qualcomm Google & Android all. It is just a matter of time. Dotard is committing suicide, forcing the remaining profitable US firms to commit suicide.
China will do it within 2 years. Chinese will pay relatively small price for a great (originally unintended) profits to come in just about 2 years. Great losses will be suffered by Americans and their partners / investors.
And you are entitled to your personal opinion as well. It is pretty obvious you are alone in your opinion here, apart from big time American fanboy Laksaboy.
Huawei’s Hail Mary mobile ‘plan B’
A Chinese couple browse their smartphones as they walk by the new Huawei P30 smartphone advertisement. Picture: Andy Wong
A Chinese couple browse their smartphones as they walk by the new Huawei P30 smartphone advertisement. Picture: Andy WongSource:AP
WHAT IT MEANS FOR SMARTPHONE USERS
Google’s Android and Apple’s proprietary iOS have a stranglehold on smartphone operating systems, accounting for about 99 per cent of the global market.
On the hardware side, Huawei’s smartphone technology has come along in leaps and bounds in recent years, rocketing the company into the second largest smartphone maker in the world in terms of global shipments.
The company’s latest flagship phone — the Huawei P30 Pro — received widespread positive reviews for its standout hardware features, including from news.com.au. But analysts predict consumers will abandon Huawei for other smartphone makers if the company can only use a stripped-down version of the Android software that powers the user experience.
Some Huawei smartphone owners have reportedly been panic selling their devices with an influx turning up on Gumtree in the past 24 hours.
Huawei Australia’s director of corporate affairs, Jeremy Mitchell, has told Australians their current devices will still have the Google apps.
“We want to assure Huawei customers in Australia that the US actions involving Google will not impact consumers with a Huawei smartphone or tablet or those that are planning to buy a Huawei device in the near future from an Australian retail outlet,” he said.
“Consumers with Huawei devices will still receive security updates and be able to use Google apps. Huawei will continue to provide after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally.”
HUAWEI’S PLAN B
Huawei has publicly acknowledged several times since 2012 that it has been developing its own mobile operating system as an alternative to Google’s Android OS should it be forced to need it.
“We have prepared our own operating system, if it turns out we can no longer use these systems, we will be ready and have our plan B,” Huawei’s mobile chief Richard Yu Chengdong said in an interview with German publication Die Welt in March.
That operating system is reportedly called HongMeng OS but it remains to be seen if Huawei will be forced to deploy it on the future devices it ships outside China.
Huawei phones sold in China already lack the Google Play Store, Google services and many popular third party apps, but expanding its Chinese app store alternative outside the country would come with huge challenges.
Even if Huawei is able to strike out on its own with a great operating system, it would still need to convince app developers to bring popular apps to Huawei’s own app store.
Samsung has previously tried to do this with its self-developed operating system dubbed Tizen but it completely failed to catch on, largely because it lacked the apps people wanted.
Google said basic services would still function on the Android operating system used in Huawei’s smartphones and existing smartphone owners would not lose access to its Google Play app store or security features.
In the near term, it’s very possible Huawei can rely on the open-source and bare-bones version of Android coupled with its own interface software that runs on top of Android called EMUI, formerly known as Emotion UI.
For now, “Australian consumers will be able to continue using Google services like Google Play and Gmail on their Huawei phones as they normally would,” Mr Mitchell said.
“Google Android updates will continue to be provided for Huawei EMUI and Google apps will not be affected.”
Chinese Telecom equipment company Huawei Consumer Products division CEO Richard Yu gestures as he speaks on stage during the presentation the new P30 smartphone. Picture: Eric Piermont
Chinese Telecom equipment company Huawei Consumer Products division CEO Richard Yu gestures as he speaks on stage during the presentation the new P30 smartphone. Picture: Eric PiermontSource:AFP
A FIGHT FOR TECH DOMINANCE
The Trump administration’s move ups the ante in a trade war between Washington and Beijing that partly reflects a struggle for global economic and technological dominance.
Huawei’s telecom infrastructure division which develops equipment to build out cable broadband and wireless mobile networks has been plagued by espionage fears held by the West.
It’s one of the world’s leading vendors for telecom equipment but relies on US components including computer chips meaning the business will need to look elsewhere.
The Australian government took the step of banning Huawei’s equipment from 5G networks being rolled out in the country but if the US ban stays in place, the pace of 5G mobile technology will likely be slow in countries relying on Chinese equipment.
Huawei’s smartphone arm has also laboured under a similar suspicion, albeit to a much lesser degree, but hadn’t really suffered until now.
Google (which has been ramping up its own smartphone efforts in recent years) could seek exemptions from the White House mandate but has not commented on whether it planned to do so.
Google may lose some licensing fees and opportunities to show ads on Huawei phones but it wouldn’t be a major financial concern for the company.
Meanwhile, other US tech companies including chipmakers such as Intel and Qualcomm have reportedly told workers they will stop supplying Huawei.
A Chinese couple browse their smartphones as they walk by the new Huawei P30 smartphone advertisement. Picture: Andy Wong
A Chinese couple browse their smartphones as they walk by the new Huawei P30 smartphone advertisement. Picture: Andy WongSource:AP
WHAT IT MEANS FOR SMARTPHONE USERS
Google’s Android and Apple’s proprietary iOS have a stranglehold on smartphone operating systems, accounting for about 99 per cent of the global market.
On the hardware side, Huawei’s smartphone technology has come along in leaps and bounds in recent years, rocketing the company into the second largest smartphone maker in the world in terms of global shipments.
The company’s latest flagship phone — the Huawei P30 Pro — received widespread positive reviews for its standout hardware features, including from news.com.au. But analysts predict consumers will abandon Huawei for other smartphone makers if the company can only use a stripped-down version of the Android software that powers the user experience.
Some Huawei smartphone owners have reportedly been panic selling their devices with an influx turning up on Gumtree in the past 24 hours.
Huawei Australia’s director of corporate affairs, Jeremy Mitchell, has told Australians their current devices will still have the Google apps.
“We want to assure Huawei customers in Australia that the US actions involving Google will not impact consumers with a Huawei smartphone or tablet or those that are planning to buy a Huawei device in the near future from an Australian retail outlet,” he said.
“Consumers with Huawei devices will still receive security updates and be able to use Google apps. Huawei will continue to provide after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally.”
HUAWEI’S PLAN B
Huawei has publicly acknowledged several times since 2012 that it has been developing its own mobile operating system as an alternative to Google’s Android OS should it be forced to need it.
“We have prepared our own operating system, if it turns out we can no longer use these systems, we will be ready and have our plan B,” Huawei’s mobile chief Richard Yu Chengdong said in an interview with German publication Die Welt in March.
That operating system is reportedly called HongMeng OS but it remains to be seen if Huawei will be forced to deploy it on the future devices it ships outside China.
Huawei phones sold in China already lack the Google Play Store, Google services and many popular third party apps, but expanding its Chinese app store alternative outside the country would come with huge challenges.
Even if Huawei is able to strike out on its own with a great operating system, it would still need to convince app developers to bring popular apps to Huawei’s own app store.
Samsung has previously tried to do this with its self-developed operating system dubbed Tizen but it completely failed to catch on, largely because it lacked the apps people wanted.
Google said basic services would still function on the Android operating system used in Huawei’s smartphones and existing smartphone owners would not lose access to its Google Play app store or security features.
In the near term, it’s very possible Huawei can rely on the open-source and bare-bones version of Android coupled with its own interface software that runs on top of Android called EMUI, formerly known as Emotion UI.
For now, “Australian consumers will be able to continue using Google services like Google Play and Gmail on their Huawei phones as they normally would,” Mr Mitchell said.
“Google Android updates will continue to be provided for Huawei EMUI and Google apps will not be affected.”
Chinese Telecom equipment company Huawei Consumer Products division CEO Richard Yu gestures as he speaks on stage during the presentation the new P30 smartphone. Picture: Eric Piermont
Chinese Telecom equipment company Huawei Consumer Products division CEO Richard Yu gestures as he speaks on stage during the presentation the new P30 smartphone. Picture: Eric PiermontSource:AFP
A FIGHT FOR TECH DOMINANCE
The Trump administration’s move ups the ante in a trade war between Washington and Beijing that partly reflects a struggle for global economic and technological dominance.
Huawei’s telecom infrastructure division which develops equipment to build out cable broadband and wireless mobile networks has been plagued by espionage fears held by the West.
It’s one of the world’s leading vendors for telecom equipment but relies on US components including computer chips meaning the business will need to look elsewhere.
The Australian government took the step of banning Huawei’s equipment from 5G networks being rolled out in the country but if the US ban stays in place, the pace of 5G mobile technology will likely be slow in countries relying on Chinese equipment.
Huawei’s smartphone arm has also laboured under a similar suspicion, albeit to a much lesser degree, but hadn’t really suffered until now.
Google (which has been ramping up its own smartphone efforts in recent years) could seek exemptions from the White House mandate but has not commented on whether it planned to do so.
Google may lose some licensing fees and opportunities to show ads on Huawei phones but it wouldn’t be a major financial concern for the company.
Meanwhile, other US tech companies including chipmakers such as Intel and Qualcomm have reportedly told workers they will stop supplying Huawei.
Will Google's decision to suspend business with Huawei affect your device? - Business
A composite of Huawei and Android.
PHOTO The next versions of Huawei's Android smartphones will lose access to services including the Google Play Store. REUTERS/ANDROID
Google's shock decision yesterday to suspend business operations with Huawei has sparked confusion and uncertainty among fans of the Chinese giant's devices, with many vowing to steer clear of the next generation of Huawei devices altogether.
Chinese analysts have described the moves as "barbaric", tech influencers were quick to post sentiments like "RIP Huawei outside of China" to their millions of followers, while a foreign affairs briefing in Beijing last night kicked off with a clear response that China's Government would support Huawei using "legal weapons" to defend itself.
Tech experts have since debated the lack of details around the announcement and acknowledged that while Huawei would struggle without US help, an enforced crackdown on Google software and hardware on currently-owned devices — extending to beloved apps like Gmail or even the Android OS — would be unfeasible.
But the confusion around the announcement has meant fans of Huawei's smartphones — attracted by its comparative affordability to Apple iPhones and cutting-edge features — may now think twice about keeping or buying a new Huawei device if the ban persists.
The debate has also prompted speculation as to how Australian suppliers and vendors might respond to such a situation as well as what Huawei's future without Google might look like — here's some of what we know so far:
Will Huawei devices lose accessibility to Google services?
A woman browses her smartphone as she walks by a Huawei store.
PHOTO Google will stop providing Huawei with access, technical support and collaboration involving its proprietary services going forward. AP: ANDY WONG
Despite initial fears that existing Huawei users could immediately lose access to downloads and updates to Google apps, Google and Android came out soon after the initial reports appearing to provide reassurance that "existing" devices would not be affected.
"We are complying with the [US Government] order and reviewing the implications," a Google spokesperson told the ABC in a statement.
"For users of our services, Google Play and the security protections from Google Play Protect will continue to function on existing Huawei devices."
At the same time, Android — the mobile operating system developed by Google — published a near identical statement that it was complying with US Government requirements while maintaining only that Google Play and security from Google Play Protect would continue to function on existing Huawei devices.
While the statements only referenced the functionality of Google Play — the Android's app store and security functions — in principle it means existing users should still be able to use, download and update Google's apps.
"There is always the risk that the [US State Department] … puts pressure on Google to say 'no, you actually have to block existing services', in which case there could be a concern," Alex Kidman, the tech and telco editor at comparison website Finder.com.au, told the ABC.
"Google doesn't seem inclined to go that way, and at least its initial interpretation is that it shouldn't need to do that."
Yet while Google has maintained simply that Google Play would not be affected without commenting further, late last night Huawei published a statement noting its own significant role in Android's global success while, more strikingly, providing no reassurance that existing devices would not be affected, but rather, that its owners and vendors would be supported.
"Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally," it said.
Richard Yu holds up a new P10 device.
PHOTO Richard Yu, chief executive of Huawei's consumer business, launching a new phone in 2017. REUTERS: PAUL HANNA
At the same time, putting speculation about Google Play's functionality on existing devices aside, it still remains unclear what access to Google future devices would have, or even whether the annual Android OS upgrade to Android Q — the next generation of Google's mobile operating system — would be impacted by the ban.
According to Kidman, a ban on such an update could force Huawei to move on to the "public version" of the Android operating system — known as Android Open Source Project (AOSP) — where access to Google apps and services are limited.
"The open source Android channel is typically a lot slower, and Google certainly wouldn't be allowed to provide the next Android Q [due to be released later] this year directly to Huawei," Kidman said.
"My interpretation is if the ban continues to that point, I can't see a way that Google will be allowed to provide that software to existing Huawei phones."
How have Huawei vendors in Australia responded?
The shock announcement from Google has also prompted questions around the world with regards to how businesses which sold or were linked to Huawei devices would deal with a potential consumer backlash due to a suspension.
"Given that phones were purchased on the basis of phones continuing to receive updates — which is no longer the case — will you be allowing people to swap phones?" one Twitter user promptly asked UK mobile network operator EE, which responded only by quoting the Google statements.
Thus far, neither Google nor Huawei have said whether future models of Huawei smartphones would be affected, or whether such bans would apply to simply yet-to-be-designed models, or more troublingly, those already being promoted and rolled out worldwide but not yet officially released to the public, like the Huawei Mate X.
Huawei has been unavailable to provide direct comment on such fears, while Google has refused to provide further details beyond its initial statement to the ABC on existing devices.
Meanwhile, many Australian vendors and businesses reached out to for comment on the suspension and potential backlashes appeared to have not been advised ahead of the public Google announcement let alone how it would deal with them.
"Optus is currently working with Huawei and Google to understand the impacts of this news to our customers," a spokesperson told the ABC in a statement.
Vodafone Australia added that while there still appeared to be no immediate impact, the company was "working with Google and Huawei to understand the implications, if any, for Vodafone Australia".
Other stores and businesses such as JB Hi-Fi and Telstra referred the ABC to different corporate headquarters or did not respond for comment.
Kidman speculated that while recently released handsets such as the Huawei P30 would likely not be affected, devices that Huawei was gearing up to sell in the near future could very likely be impacted.
"The most immediate of which would seem to be or may be — only Huawei knows for sure — is the upcoming foldable device, the Huawei Mate X," Kidman said.
'We have our Plan B': How might Huawei navigate such a ban?
A woman stands in front of a shining booth showing off mobile phone technology
PHOTO Huawei has built its own operating system. REUTERS
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Huawei has for the past few years anticipated a disruption in its ties to Google services, and has been working on contingency plans — such as building its own operating system — in case it was ever suspended from using Android.
"We have prepared our own operating system; if it turns out we can no longer use these systems [Android], we will be ready and have our Plan B," Richard Yu, chief executive of Huawei's consumer business, recently said in an interview with German publication Die Welt.
Some of this technology was already being used in products sold in China, the company has said.
However, since many popular Google apps — including Gmail, YouTube and Chrome — are already banned in China, Google's decision is expected to mostly affect future and potential Huawei customers and businesses in countries outside of China, such as Australia.
In the same interview, Mr Yu discussed the new and upcoming Huawei Mate X as a response to how the company would navigate a difficult smartphone market, highlighting the company's hopes for the devices observers say could now be significantly affected by the Google suspension.
"It's not good for Huawei — this is a huge black eye for them," Kidman said.
"It would be a big fall as well, because they're currently … the number two brand worldwide for phone sales."
In its statement last night, Huawei opened by saying how as a partner of Android, it had "worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem benefitting both users and the industry".
And after providing no assurance its current devices wouldn't be affected, it closed by pledging that Huawei would "continue to build a safe and sustainable ecosystem to provide the best experience for all users globally" — without specifying whether that future would involve Google.
Posted earlier today at 1:50am
A composite of Huawei and Android.
PHOTO The next versions of Huawei's Android smartphones will lose access to services including the Google Play Store. REUTERS/ANDROID
Google's shock decision yesterday to suspend business operations with Huawei has sparked confusion and uncertainty among fans of the Chinese giant's devices, with many vowing to steer clear of the next generation of Huawei devices altogether.
Chinese analysts have described the moves as "barbaric", tech influencers were quick to post sentiments like "RIP Huawei outside of China" to their millions of followers, while a foreign affairs briefing in Beijing last night kicked off with a clear response that China's Government would support Huawei using "legal weapons" to defend itself.
Tech experts have since debated the lack of details around the announcement and acknowledged that while Huawei would struggle without US help, an enforced crackdown on Google software and hardware on currently-owned devices — extending to beloved apps like Gmail or even the Android OS — would be unfeasible.
But the confusion around the announcement has meant fans of Huawei's smartphones — attracted by its comparative affordability to Apple iPhones and cutting-edge features — may now think twice about keeping or buying a new Huawei device if the ban persists.
The debate has also prompted speculation as to how Australian suppliers and vendors might respond to such a situation as well as what Huawei's future without Google might look like — here's some of what we know so far:
Will Huawei devices lose accessibility to Google services?
A woman browses her smartphone as she walks by a Huawei store.
PHOTO Google will stop providing Huawei with access, technical support and collaboration involving its proprietary services going forward. AP: ANDY WONG
Despite initial fears that existing Huawei users could immediately lose access to downloads and updates to Google apps, Google and Android came out soon after the initial reports appearing to provide reassurance that "existing" devices would not be affected.
"We are complying with the [US Government] order and reviewing the implications," a Google spokesperson told the ABC in a statement.
"For users of our services, Google Play and the security protections from Google Play Protect will continue to function on existing Huawei devices."
At the same time, Android — the mobile operating system developed by Google — published a near identical statement that it was complying with US Government requirements while maintaining only that Google Play and security from Google Play Protect would continue to function on existing Huawei devices.
While the statements only referenced the functionality of Google Play — the Android's app store and security functions — in principle it means existing users should still be able to use, download and update Google's apps.
"There is always the risk that the [US State Department] … puts pressure on Google to say 'no, you actually have to block existing services', in which case there could be a concern," Alex Kidman, the tech and telco editor at comparison website Finder.com.au, told the ABC.
"Google doesn't seem inclined to go that way, and at least its initial interpretation is that it shouldn't need to do that."
Yet while Google has maintained simply that Google Play would not be affected without commenting further, late last night Huawei published a statement noting its own significant role in Android's global success while, more strikingly, providing no reassurance that existing devices would not be affected, but rather, that its owners and vendors would be supported.
"Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally," it said.
Richard Yu holds up a new P10 device.
PHOTO Richard Yu, chief executive of Huawei's consumer business, launching a new phone in 2017. REUTERS: PAUL HANNA
At the same time, putting speculation about Google Play's functionality on existing devices aside, it still remains unclear what access to Google future devices would have, or even whether the annual Android OS upgrade to Android Q — the next generation of Google's mobile operating system — would be impacted by the ban.
According to Kidman, a ban on such an update could force Huawei to move on to the "public version" of the Android operating system — known as Android Open Source Project (AOSP) — where access to Google apps and services are limited.
"The open source Android channel is typically a lot slower, and Google certainly wouldn't be allowed to provide the next Android Q [due to be released later] this year directly to Huawei," Kidman said.
"My interpretation is if the ban continues to that point, I can't see a way that Google will be allowed to provide that software to existing Huawei phones."
How have Huawei vendors in Australia responded?
The shock announcement from Google has also prompted questions around the world with regards to how businesses which sold or were linked to Huawei devices would deal with a potential consumer backlash due to a suspension.
"Given that phones were purchased on the basis of phones continuing to receive updates — which is no longer the case — will you be allowing people to swap phones?" one Twitter user promptly asked UK mobile network operator EE, which responded only by quoting the Google statements.
Thus far, neither Google nor Huawei have said whether future models of Huawei smartphones would be affected, or whether such bans would apply to simply yet-to-be-designed models, or more troublingly, those already being promoted and rolled out worldwide but not yet officially released to the public, like the Huawei Mate X.
Huawei has been unavailable to provide direct comment on such fears, while Google has refused to provide further details beyond its initial statement to the ABC on existing devices.
Meanwhile, many Australian vendors and businesses reached out to for comment on the suspension and potential backlashes appeared to have not been advised ahead of the public Google announcement let alone how it would deal with them.
"Optus is currently working with Huawei and Google to understand the impacts of this news to our customers," a spokesperson told the ABC in a statement.
Vodafone Australia added that while there still appeared to be no immediate impact, the company was "working with Google and Huawei to understand the implications, if any, for Vodafone Australia".
Other stores and businesses such as JB Hi-Fi and Telstra referred the ABC to different corporate headquarters or did not respond for comment.
Kidman speculated that while recently released handsets such as the Huawei P30 would likely not be affected, devices that Huawei was gearing up to sell in the near future could very likely be impacted.
"The most immediate of which would seem to be or may be — only Huawei knows for sure — is the upcoming foldable device, the Huawei Mate X," Kidman said.
'We have our Plan B': How might Huawei navigate such a ban?
A woman stands in front of a shining booth showing off mobile phone technology
PHOTO Huawei has built its own operating system. REUTERS
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Huawei has for the past few years anticipated a disruption in its ties to Google services, and has been working on contingency plans — such as building its own operating system — in case it was ever suspended from using Android.
"We have prepared our own operating system; if it turns out we can no longer use these systems [Android], we will be ready and have our Plan B," Richard Yu, chief executive of Huawei's consumer business, recently said in an interview with German publication Die Welt.
Some of this technology was already being used in products sold in China, the company has said.
However, since many popular Google apps — including Gmail, YouTube and Chrome — are already banned in China, Google's decision is expected to mostly affect future and potential Huawei customers and businesses in countries outside of China, such as Australia.
In the same interview, Mr Yu discussed the new and upcoming Huawei Mate X as a response to how the company would navigate a difficult smartphone market, highlighting the company's hopes for the devices observers say could now be significantly affected by the Google suspension.
"It's not good for Huawei — this is a huge black eye for them," Kidman said.
"It would be a big fall as well, because they're currently … the number two brand worldwide for phone sales."
In its statement last night, Huawei opened by saying how as a partner of Android, it had "worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem benefitting both users and the industry".
And after providing no assurance its current devices wouldn't be affected, it closed by pledging that Huawei would "continue to build a safe and sustainable ecosystem to provide the best experience for all users globally" — without specifying whether that future would involve Google.
Posted earlier today at 1:50am
lidat... wat will be ang-mo karma be.. for wat they commi
Google Play App Store had been from DAY 1 TOTALLY BANNED and blocked by Great Firewall of China.
There is absolutely no issue!
Each smart phone firm all opened their own App Stores Samsung LG Oppo Xiaomi Huawei Vivo .....
There are many non-manufacturer App Stores like Baidu QQ 360 etc.
Literally hundreds.
Google from day 1 failed to have App Store monopoly.
Every Chinese Domestic model Android Phone actually Block Google Play App Store! It is not pre-installed inside. Some will even take length to prevent you to install Google Play App Store! Warning you VOID WARRANTY if you did.
My friends bought RedMi from China to use in Pee Said. Had taken great painful lengthy process to hack them to allow installation of Google Play Store etc.
Dotard is idiot if he think App Store can monopolize.
Even OS and CPU cores they cannot monopolize. Chinese had long prepared and plotted to counter and takeover from Chow Ang Moh.
Dotard is only causing the impeding change to happen SOONER!
Fucking idiot!
There is absolutely no issue!
Each smart phone firm all opened their own App Stores Samsung LG Oppo Xiaomi Huawei Vivo .....
There are many non-manufacturer App Stores like Baidu QQ 360 etc.
Literally hundreds.
Google from day 1 failed to have App Store monopoly.
Every Chinese Domestic model Android Phone actually Block Google Play App Store! It is not pre-installed inside. Some will even take length to prevent you to install Google Play App Store! Warning you VOID WARRANTY if you did.
My friends bought RedMi from China to use in Pee Said. Had taken great painful lengthy process to hack them to allow installation of Google Play Store etc.
Dotard is idiot if he think App Store can monopolize.
Even OS and CPU cores they cannot monopolize. Chinese had long prepared and plotted to counter and takeover from Chow Ang Moh.
Dotard is only causing the impeding change to happen SOONER!
Fucking idiot!
Of course, no issue for the Tiongs within China. But they're living behind a Great Firewall, they're accustomed to life inside a digital prison.
The Internet is so locked down, I have to use Wechat to chat with my ATB friends in China... Whatsapp doesn't work. And they have to 翻墙 to access the unfiltered Internet, which sometimes doesn't work.
But without Google's ecosystem, the overseas customers will think twice before splashing the cash for a crippled Android phone.
There is enough of facts out there to substantiate my statements.
Of course, no issue for the Tiongs within China. But they're living behind a Great Firewall, they're accustomed to life inside a digital prison.
The Internet is so locked down, I have to use Wechat to chat with my ATB friends in China... Whatsapp doesn't work. And they have to 翻墙 to access the unfiltered Internet, which sometimes doesn't work.
But without Google's ecosystem, the overseas customers will think twice before splashing the cash for a crippled Android phone.
Can China grow without America? If it can, China will be Great. I think the US is over-rating itself. China needed US to move up the initial development phases. Now, it can continuing climbing without the US.
Can we buy the latest HW phones on the cheap now?
A silly move by Google. China has always thrive under embargo . The latest ban would only encourage Huawei to get out of their comfort zone and roll out their own OS.
Chinese govt on their part can retaliate by mandating all smart phones in china to run on Huawei OS platform . Being the largest Hp market they certainly have the bargaining chips
Chinese govt on their part can retaliate by mandating all smart phones in china to run on Huawei OS platform . Being the largest Hp market they certainly have the bargaining chips
Why Trump backed down? His buddies in the telco told him that they are hurting because of his EO.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/21/goo...or-next-90-days-after-restrictions-eased.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/21/goo...or-next-90-days-after-restrictions-eased.html
Meanwhike i just saw latest hknor phone selling for 300 on carousell. Must be stupid
Power! Xijinping laughing and opening 茅台! Now Xijinping can slaughter USA all the way in unreserved Trade War and Economic War / Technological War! Dotard die!
https://tech.sina.com.cn/5g/2019-05-21/doc-ihvhiews3463018.shtml
任正非回应：美国低估了华为的力量 5G不会受影响！
任正非回应：美国低估了华为的力量 5G不会受影响！
图片来源：央视新闻
原标题 刚刚，任正非回应了！美国政客低估了华为的力量，5G绝不会受影响！
5月21日上午9点，任正非在华为总部接受媒体记者采访，回应热点问题。先来看看他说了些什么。
回应美对华为禁令推迟90天实施
美国的“90天临时执照”对我们没有多大意义，我们已经做好了准备，但是我们非常感谢美国企业，他们为我们做出了很多贡献，我们的很多顾问来自IBM等美国企业。我们一年前就受到美国实体管制了。美国政客目前的做法低估了我们的力量。
辟谣德国芯片厂商停止供货
此前有媒体报道，在美国施压下，德国芯片厂商英飞凌停止供货华为。对此，任正非辟谣：“德国芯片厂商英飞凌没有停止供货”。
关于5G
华为的5G是不会受影响，在5G技术方面，别人两三年肯定追不上华为。
美国科技深度和广度上还是值得我们学习，很多小公司产品超级尖端，但是在我们的行当上（5G），我们做到了前列，但是整体国家而言，我们和美国比，差距还很大。
5G容量是4G20倍，2G一万倍，耗电下降10倍，体积下降70% 。我们有几十年都不会腐蚀的材料，这些特性很适合欧洲。欧洲跟我们沟通很密切。
谈“备胎计划”
每年采购高通5000万套芯片，我们从来没有排斥和抵制。
我们不会轻易狭隘地排除美国芯片，要共同成长，但是如果出现供应困难的时候，我们有备份。我们在“和平时期”都是一半来自美国芯片，一半来自华为，我们不能孤立于世界。我们也能做美国芯片一样的芯片，但不等于说我们就不买了。
关于芯片
做芯片光砸钱不行，企业更需要物理学家数学家等。华为至少有 700 名数学家、800 多名物理学家、120 多名化学家、六七千名基础研究的专家、六万多名各种高级工程师、工程师，形成这种组合在前进。我们自己在编的 15000 多基础研究的科学家和专家是把金钱变成知识，我们还有 60000 多应用型人才是开发产品，把知识变成金钱。我们一直支持企业外的科学家进行科研探索。
关于自产
我们量产能力还是很大的，不会造成我们公司负增长，不会对产业发展做出伤害。
关于爱华为
我们家人现在还在用苹果手机，苹果的生态很好，家人出国我还送他们苹果电脑，不能狭隘地认为爱华为就爱华为手机。
目前对华为有两种情绪，一种是鲜明的爱国主义支持华为，一种是华为绑架了全社会的爱国情绪。任正非说，自己的小孩就是不爱华为，因为他爱苹果。余承东总说老板不为我们宣传。我们制止他们瞎喊口号，不要煽动民族情绪。
关于资本介入
华为不轻易允许资本进来，因为资本贪婪的本性会破坏我们的理想的实现。
关于家人
我这辈子最对不起的就是自己的小孩，我创业时太忙，与她们沟通时间少，我年轻时公司处于生存的垂死挣扎中，经常几个月很少与小孩有往来，我亏欠她们。她们自己对自己要求很高，她们很努力，比如小女儿小时候每个星期要跳15个小时的舞蹈，大学时做作业做到凌晨两点，甚至四五点钟。
华为：有能力继续发展和使用安卓生态
针对美国谷歌公司将停止提供安卓系统的技术支持一事，中国华为公司20日回应说，华为有能力继续发展和使用安卓生态，包括智能手机和平板电脑在内的华为和荣耀品牌的产品及其服务在中国市场不受影响。未来华为仍将继续打造安全、可持续发展的全场景智慧生态，为用户提供更好的服务。
中国外交部：美方转嫁责任是徒劳的
据报道，美国总统特朗普17日表示，美国和中国实际上已经有一份协议，但中方破坏了协议。中国外交部发言人陆慷20日表示，中方不知道美方所说的“协议”是什么，但肯定不是中方同意过的协议。美方想混淆视听转嫁责任，这是徒劳的。
外交部发言人 陆慷：中美11轮经贸磋商未能达成协议，根本原因在于美方试图通过极限施压实现不合理的利益索求。这从一开始就行不通。在要挟未果，引发美国国内外广泛质疑和市场动荡的情况下，美方又想混淆视听转嫁责任，这也是徒劳的。中方在过去11轮谈判中表现出的诚意和建设性态度国际社会有目共睹。
据德国媒体报道，经多年审查，英国、德国及欧盟方面均未发现华为产品存在明显“后门”，但美国思科设备却经常被发现安全漏洞，自2013年起已有10起“后门”事件。对此陆慷表示，中方特别想听美方的评论。
外交部发言人 陆慷：美方以己之心度人之腹，为了获取不正当竞争优势对他国企业造谣抹黑，却始终拿不出像样的证据。欧洲方面上述调査结论证明了华为的清白，也暴露了美国动用国家力量打压他国企业的不正当性。
就谷歌暂停对华为部分业务一事，陆慷作出回应。
外交部发言人 陆慷：我们看到报道，注意到有关谷歌公司已经暂停对华为公司涉及软硬件转让业务并且暂停向华为提供有关服务的说法。中方将正式确认此事，并进一步积极关注事态进展。同时，中方支持中国企业拿起法律武器捍卫自己的正当权利。
美针对华为禁令或致美企损失数十亿美元
15日，美国政府发布了针对华为等公司的限制交易令，美国有线电视新闻网近日报道称，华为从美国数十家科技公司购买关键零部件，是全球第二大智能手机销售商。
去年，华为购买了来自约1.3万家供应商价值约700亿美元的零部件，其中，从这些美国科技公司购买的零部件约有110亿美元，包括高通、博通、微软以及谷歌。
如果按照特朗普政府对华为的禁令，美国企业或将损失数十亿美元。美国德汇律师事务所合伙人劳伦斯·沃德表示，美国政府禁令将扰乱全球供应链。
美芯片股近日遭遇重挫 高通、博通隔夜集体暴跌
在近期中美贸易摩擦加剧的大背景下，美国政府推出对华为的禁令引发投资者对科技股和经济前景的担忧，而美国和芯片相关的股票跌势猛烈。
意法半导体隔夜狂跌8.42% 。
芯片巨头高通暴跌5.99%，跌势较前几个交易日明显加剧。
另一大巨头博通的股价也暴跌5.97%，出现巨大的向下跳空缺口。
微芯科技下跌4.47%，美光科技下跌3.99%，台积电跌约4%，英伟达、AMD、英特尔等多只芯片相关个股跌幅在3%左右。
比较例外的是，在美上市的中芯国际股价大涨7.97% 。
总的来看，最近美股杀跌的动能仍然主要来自科技股，尤其美国政府限制美国公司向华为提供产品和服务，市场担心相关科技公司会因丢失重要客户而业绩受损，使得科技股集中的纳斯达克指数表现明显弱于道琼斯工业指数和标准普尔500指数。隔夜纳斯达克指数下跌1.46%，而道琼斯工业指数的跌幅仅为0.33% 。
相较之下，A股市场的芯片概念近日则一度活跃，不过到了目前，相关个股已分化明显。
https://tech.sina.com.cn/5g/2019-05-21/doc-ihvhiews3375654.shtml
任正非:华为5G绝对不会受影响 别人两三年肯定追不上
2019年05月21日 09:11 新浪科技综合
任正非答董倩问：美国的“90天临时执照”对我们没有多大意义，我们已经做好了准备，但是我们非常感谢美国企业，他们为我们做出了很多贡献，我们的很多顾问来自IBM等美国企业。
任正非：我们一年前就受到美国实体管制了。
任正非：华为的5G是绝对不会受影响，在5G技术方面，别人两三年肯定追不上华为。
https://tech.sina.com.cn/it/2019-05-21/doc-ihvhiews3380768.shtml
任正非:美国禁令不会造成负增长 也不会影响公司发展
2019年05月21日 09:27 新浪科技
新浪科技讯 5月21日上午消息，任正非今日接受媒体采访时表示，上星期中移动招标，40个城市中标37个，并没有因为美国禁令就停止发展。不会造成公司发展的负增长，也不会影响公司的发展。
关键词 : 任正非芯片华为
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Ren Zhengfei responded: The United States underestimated the power of Huawei 5G will not be affected!
Ren Zhengfei responded: The United States underestimated the power of Huawei 5G will not be affected!
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Original title Just now, Ren Zhengfei responded! American politicians underestimate the power of Huawei, 5G will never be affected!
At 9:00 am on May 21, Ren Zhengfei was interviewed by media reporters at Huawei headquarters to respond to hot issues. Let's first take a look at what he said.
Responding to the US ban on Huawei for 90 days
The US "90-day temporary license" doesn't make much sense to us. We are ready, but we are very grateful to American companies for their contributions. Many of our consultants come from American companies such as IBM. We were controlled by US entities a year ago. The current practice of American politicians underestimates our strength.
谣 谣 German chip manufacturers stop supplying
Earlier media reports said that under the pressure of the United States, German chip manufacturer Infineon stopped supplying Huawei. In this regard, Ren Zhengfei blamed: "German chip manufacturer Infineon did not stop supplying."
About 5G
Huawei's 5G will not be affected. In terms of 5G technology, others will definitely not be able to catch up with Huawei in two or three years.
The depth and breadth of American technology is still worth learning. Many small companies are super-decisive, but we are at the forefront of our business (5G), but the overall country, we are far behind the United States.
The 5G capacity is 4G20 times, 2G 10,000 times, power consumption is reduced by 10 times, and volume is reduced by 70%. We have materials that will not corrode for decades, and these characteristics are very suitable for Europe. Europe communicates very closely with us.
Talking about the "prepared tire plan"
We purchase 50,000 sets of Qualcomm chips every year, and we have never rejected or resisted.
We will not easily narrowly exclude US chips and grow together, but if there is a supply shortage, we have a backup. In the "peace period", we are half of the US chips, and half of them are from Huawei. We cannot be isolated from the world. We can also do the same chip as the US chip, but it does not mean that we will not buy it.
About the chip
It’s not good to do chips, and companies need physicists and mathematicians. Huawei has at least 700 mathematicians, more than 800 physicists, more than 120 chemists, six or seven thousand basic research experts, more than 60,000 senior engineers and engineers. The scientists and experts we have compiled more than 15,000 basic researches are turning money into knowledge. We have more than 60,000 application talents to develop products and turn knowledge into money. We have always supported scientists outside the company to conduct scientific research and exploration.
About homegrown
Our mass production capacity is still very large, it will not cause negative growth of our company, and will not harm the development of the industry.
About Aihuawei
Our family is still using Apple mobile phones. Apple's ecology is very good. When I go abroad, my family will send them Apple computers. I can't narrowly think that I love Huawei as a mobile phone.
At present, there are two kinds of emotions for Huawei. One is that distinct patriotism supports Huawei, and the other is that Huawei has kidnapped the patriotic sentiment of the whole society. Ren Zhengfei said that his child does not love Huawei because he loves apples. Yu Chengdong always said that the boss did not promote for us. We stop them from shouting slogans and not inciting national sentiments.
About capital intervention
Huawei does not easily allow capital to come in, because the nature of capital greed will undermine the realization of our ideals.
About family
The most sorry thing about my life is my own children. I was too busy when I started a business. I had less time to communicate with them. When I was young, the company was in a dying struggle for survival. I often had little contact with children for a few months. I owe them. They are very demanding on their own. They work very hard. For example, when the younger daughter is a child, she has to dance for 15 hours every week. When she is in college, she does her homework at 2 am or even 4 or 5 o'clock.
Huawei: Ability to continue to develop and use the Android ecosystem
In response to the fact that Google Inc. will stop providing technical support for Android, China Huawei responded on the 20th that Huawei has the ability to continue to develop and use the Android ecosystem, including Huawei and Glory brand products and services including smartphones and tablets. The Chinese market is not affected. In the future, Huawei will continue to build a safe and sustainable development environment for the whole scene, providing better services to users.
Chinese Foreign Ministry: The responsibility of the US to pass on is futile.
According to reports, US President Trump said on the 17th that the United States and China actually have an agreement, but China has broken the agreement. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Hao said on the 20th that China does not know what the "agreement" the US has said, but it is certainly not an agreement that China has agreed to. The US wants to confuse the burden of audio-visual transfer, which is futile.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Wei: The 11-round economic and trade consultation between China and the United States failed to reach an agreement. The fundamental reason is that the US tried to achieve unreasonable interests through extreme pressure. This will not work from the beginning. In the case of unsuccessful attempts to trigger widespread suspicion and market turmoil in the United States and abroad, the United States wants to confuse the responsibility of audio-visual transfer, which is also futile. The sincerity and constructive attitude that China has shown in the past 11 rounds of negotiations is obvious to the international community.
According to German media reports, after years of review, the United Kingdom, Germany and the European Union have not found a significant "back door" for Huawei products, but Cisco equipment in the United States has often been found to have security vulnerabilities. Since 2013, there have been 10 "back door" incidents. Lu Hao said that China especially wants to listen to the comments of the US.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Yi: The United States has taken its own heart to the forefront of its own people. In order to gain unfair competitive advantage and smear the smuggling of other countries, it has never been able to produce decent evidence. The above findings of the European side prove Huawei's innocence, and it also exposes the illegitimate nature of the United States using state power to suppress other countries' enterprises.
Lu Hao responded to Google’s suspension of some of Huawei’s business.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Wei: We have seen the report and noticed that Google has suspended the suspension of Huawei's software and hardware transfer business and suspended the provision of related services to Huawei. The Chinese side will formally confirm the matter and further actively pay attention to the progress of the situation. At the same time, China supports Chinese companies in picking up legal weapons to defend their legitimate rights.
US bans Huawei or loses billions of dollars to US companies
On the 15th, the US government issued a restricted transaction order for companies such as Huawei. CNN recently reported that Huawei has purchased key components from dozens of US technology companies and is the world's second largest smartphone seller.
Last year, Huawei purchased about $10 billion worth of parts from about 13,000 suppliers. Of these, about $11 billion were purchased from these US technology companies, including Qualcomm, Broadcom, Microsoft and Google.
If the Trump administration bans Huawei, US companies will lose billions of dollars. Lawrence Ward, a partner at Deutsche Bank, said the US government ban would disrupt global supply chains.
US chip stocks have suffered heavy losses in recent days. Qualcomm and Broadcom collectively plunged overnight.
In the context of the recent intensification of Sino-US trade frictions, the US government's ban on Huawei has caused investors to worry about technology stocks and economic prospects, while US and chip-related stocks have fallen sharply.
STMicroelectronics plunged 8.42% overnight.
Chip giant Qualcomm plunged 5.99%, and the decline was significantly worse than the previous trading days.
The share price of another big giant, Broadcom, also plummeted 5.97%, with a huge downward gap.
Micro-core technology fell 4.47%, Micron Technology fell 3.99%, TSMC fell about 4%, and NVIDIA, AMD, Intel and other chip-related stocks fell about 3%.
The exception is that SMIC's share price in the US rose 7.97%.
In general, the recent mobilization of US stocks is still mainly from technology stocks. In particular, the US government restricts US companies from providing products and services to Huawei. The market is worried that related technology companies will suffer performance losses due to the loss of important customers, making technology stocks concentrated. The Nasdaq index is significantly weaker than the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the Standard & Poor's 500 Index. The Nasdaq index fell 1.46% overnight, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell only 0.33%.
In contrast, the chip concept of the A-share market has been active recently, but at present, the relevant stocks have become more differentiated.
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Ren Zhengfei: Huawei 5G will never be affected. Others will definitely not catch up in two or three years.
May 21, 2019 09:11 Sina Technology Integration
Ren Zhengfei answered Dong Qian: The US “90-day temporary license” does not make much sense to us. We are ready, but we are very grateful to the American companies. They have made a lot of contributions to us. Many of our consultants are from American companies such as IBM. .
Ren Zhengfei: We were controlled by US entities a year ago.
Ren Zhengfei: Huawei's 5G is definitely not affected. In terms of 5G technology, others will definitely not be able to catch up with Huawei in two or three years.
Ren Zhengfei: The US ban will not cause negative growth and will not affect the company's development.
May 21, 2019 09:27 Sina Technology
Sina Technology News On the morning of May 21, Ren Zhengfei said in an interview with the media today that in the middle of the week, the mobile bidding, 40 cities won the bid, 37, and did not stop development because of the US ban. It will not cause negative growth in the company's development, nor will it affect the company's development.
Key words : Ren Zhengfei chip Huawei
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任正非回应：美国低估了华为的力量 5G不会受影响！
任正非回应：美国低估了华为的力量 5G不会受影响！
原标题 刚刚，任正非回应了！美国政客低估了华为的力量，5G绝不会受影响！
5月21日上午9点，任正非在华为总部接受媒体记者采访，回应热点问题。先来看看他说了些什么。
回应美对华为禁令推迟90天实施
美国的“90天临时执照”对我们没有多大意义，我们已经做好了准备，但是我们非常感谢美国企业，他们为我们做出了很多贡献，我们的很多顾问来自IBM等美国企业。我们一年前就受到美国实体管制了。美国政客目前的做法低估了我们的力量。
辟谣德国芯片厂商停止供货
此前有媒体报道，在美国施压下，德国芯片厂商英飞凌停止供货华为。对此，任正非辟谣：“德国芯片厂商英飞凌没有停止供货”。
关于5G
华为的5G是不会受影响，在5G技术方面，别人两三年肯定追不上华为。
美国科技深度和广度上还是值得我们学习，很多小公司产品超级尖端，但是在我们的行当上（5G），我们做到了前列，但是整体国家而言，我们和美国比，差距还很大。
5G容量是4G20倍，2G一万倍，耗电下降10倍，体积下降70% 。我们有几十年都不会腐蚀的材料，这些特性很适合欧洲。欧洲跟我们沟通很密切。
谈“备胎计划”
每年采购高通5000万套芯片，我们从来没有排斥和抵制。
我们不会轻易狭隘地排除美国芯片，要共同成长，但是如果出现供应困难的时候，我们有备份。我们在“和平时期”都是一半来自美国芯片，一半来自华为，我们不能孤立于世界。我们也能做美国芯片一样的芯片，但不等于说我们就不买了。
关于芯片
做芯片光砸钱不行，企业更需要物理学家数学家等。华为至少有 700 名数学家、800 多名物理学家、120 多名化学家、六七千名基础研究的专家、六万多名各种高级工程师、工程师，形成这种组合在前进。我们自己在编的 15000 多基础研究的科学家和专家是把金钱变成知识，我们还有 60000 多应用型人才是开发产品，把知识变成金钱。我们一直支持企业外的科学家进行科研探索。
关于自产
我们量产能力还是很大的，不会造成我们公司负增长，不会对产业发展做出伤害。
关于爱华为
我们家人现在还在用苹果手机，苹果的生态很好，家人出国我还送他们苹果电脑，不能狭隘地认为爱华为就爱华为手机。
目前对华为有两种情绪，一种是鲜明的爱国主义支持华为，一种是华为绑架了全社会的爱国情绪。任正非说，自己的小孩就是不爱华为，因为他爱苹果。余承东总说老板不为我们宣传。我们制止他们瞎喊口号，不要煽动民族情绪。
关于资本介入
华为不轻易允许资本进来，因为资本贪婪的本性会破坏我们的理想的实现。
关于家人
我这辈子最对不起的就是自己的小孩，我创业时太忙，与她们沟通时间少，我年轻时公司处于生存的垂死挣扎中，经常几个月很少与小孩有往来，我亏欠她们。她们自己对自己要求很高，她们很努力，比如小女儿小时候每个星期要跳15个小时的舞蹈，大学时做作业做到凌晨两点，甚至四五点钟。
华为：有能力继续发展和使用安卓生态
针对美国谷歌公司将停止提供安卓系统的技术支持一事，中国华为公司20日回应说，华为有能力继续发展和使用安卓生态，包括智能手机和平板电脑在内的华为和荣耀品牌的产品及其服务在中国市场不受影响。未来华为仍将继续打造安全、可持续发展的全场景智慧生态，为用户提供更好的服务。
中国外交部：美方转嫁责任是徒劳的
据报道，美国总统特朗普17日表示，美国和中国实际上已经有一份协议，但中方破坏了协议。中国外交部发言人陆慷20日表示，中方不知道美方所说的“协议”是什么，但肯定不是中方同意过的协议。美方想混淆视听转嫁责任，这是徒劳的。
外交部发言人 陆慷：中美11轮经贸磋商未能达成协议，根本原因在于美方试图通过极限施压实现不合理的利益索求。这从一开始就行不通。在要挟未果，引发美国国内外广泛质疑和市场动荡的情况下，美方又想混淆视听转嫁责任，这也是徒劳的。中方在过去11轮谈判中表现出的诚意和建设性态度国际社会有目共睹。
据德国媒体报道，经多年审查，英国、德国及欧盟方面均未发现华为产品存在明显“后门”，但美国思科设备却经常被发现安全漏洞，自2013年起已有10起“后门”事件。对此陆慷表示，中方特别想听美方的评论。
外交部发言人 陆慷：美方以己之心度人之腹，为了获取不正当竞争优势对他国企业造谣抹黑，却始终拿不出像样的证据。欧洲方面上述调査结论证明了华为的清白，也暴露了美国动用国家力量打压他国企业的不正当性。
就谷歌暂停对华为部分业务一事，陆慷作出回应。
外交部发言人 陆慷：我们看到报道，注意到有关谷歌公司已经暂停对华为公司涉及软硬件转让业务并且暂停向华为提供有关服务的说法。中方将正式确认此事，并进一步积极关注事态进展。同时，中方支持中国企业拿起法律武器捍卫自己的正当权利。
美针对华为禁令或致美企损失数十亿美元
15日，美国政府发布了针对华为等公司的限制交易令，美国有线电视新闻网近日报道称，华为从美国数十家科技公司购买关键零部件，是全球第二大智能手机销售商。
去年，华为购买了来自约1.3万家供应商价值约700亿美元的零部件，其中，从这些美国科技公司购买的零部件约有110亿美元，包括高通、博通、微软以及谷歌。
如果按照特朗普政府对华为的禁令，美国企业或将损失数十亿美元。美国德汇律师事务所合伙人劳伦斯·沃德表示，美国政府禁令将扰乱全球供应链。
美芯片股近日遭遇重挫 高通、博通隔夜集体暴跌
在近期中美贸易摩擦加剧的大背景下，美国政府推出对华为的禁令引发投资者对科技股和经济前景的担忧，而美国和芯片相关的股票跌势猛烈。
意法半导体隔夜狂跌8.42% 。
芯片巨头高通暴跌5.99%，跌势较前几个交易日明显加剧。
另一大巨头博通的股价也暴跌5.97%，出现巨大的向下跳空缺口。
微芯科技下跌4.47%，美光科技下跌3.99%，台积电跌约4%，英伟达、AMD、英特尔等多只芯片相关个股跌幅在3%左右。
比较例外的是，在美上市的中芯国际股价大涨7.97% 。
总的来看，最近美股杀跌的动能仍然主要来自科技股，尤其美国政府限制美国公司向华为提供产品和服务，市场担心相关科技公司会因丢失重要客户而业绩受损，使得科技股集中的纳斯达克指数表现明显弱于道琼斯工业指数和标准普尔500指数。隔夜纳斯达克指数下跌1.46%，而道琼斯工业指数的跌幅仅为0.33% 。
相较之下，A股市场的芯片概念近日则一度活跃，不过到了目前，相关个股已分化明显。
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任正非:华为5G绝对不会受影响 别人两三年肯定追不上
2019年05月21日 09:11 新浪科技综合
任正非答董倩问：美国的“90天临时执照”对我们没有多大意义，我们已经做好了准备，但是我们非常感谢美国企业，他们为我们做出了很多贡献，我们的很多顾问来自IBM等美国企业。
任正非：我们一年前就受到美国实体管制了。
任正非：华为的5G是绝对不会受影响，在5G技术方面，别人两三年肯定追不上华为。
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任正非:美国禁令不会造成负增长 也不会影响公司发展
2019年05月21日 09:27 新浪科技
新浪科技讯 5月21日上午消息，任正非今日接受媒体采访时表示，上星期中移动招标，40个城市中标37个，并没有因为美国禁令就停止发展。不会造成公司发展的负增长，也不会影响公司的发展。
关键词 : 任正非芯片华为
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Ren Zhengfei responded: The United States underestimated the power of Huawei 5G will not be affected!
Ren Zhengfei responded: The United States underestimated the power of Huawei 5G will not be affected!
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Original title Just now, Ren Zhengfei responded! American politicians underestimate the power of Huawei, 5G will never be affected!
At 9:00 am on May 21, Ren Zhengfei was interviewed by media reporters at Huawei headquarters to respond to hot issues. Let's first take a look at what he said.
Responding to the US ban on Huawei for 90 days
The US "90-day temporary license" doesn't make much sense to us. We are ready, but we are very grateful to American companies for their contributions. Many of our consultants come from American companies such as IBM. We were controlled by US entities a year ago. The current practice of American politicians underestimates our strength.
谣 谣 German chip manufacturers stop supplying
Earlier media reports said that under the pressure of the United States, German chip manufacturer Infineon stopped supplying Huawei. In this regard, Ren Zhengfei blamed: "German chip manufacturer Infineon did not stop supplying."
About 5G
Huawei's 5G will not be affected. In terms of 5G technology, others will definitely not be able to catch up with Huawei in two or three years.
The depth and breadth of American technology is still worth learning. Many small companies are super-decisive, but we are at the forefront of our business (5G), but the overall country, we are far behind the United States.
The 5G capacity is 4G20 times, 2G 10,000 times, power consumption is reduced by 10 times, and volume is reduced by 70%. We have materials that will not corrode for decades, and these characteristics are very suitable for Europe. Europe communicates very closely with us.
Talking about the "prepared tire plan"
We purchase 50,000 sets of Qualcomm chips every year, and we have never rejected or resisted.
We will not easily narrowly exclude US chips and grow together, but if there is a supply shortage, we have a backup. In the "peace period", we are half of the US chips, and half of them are from Huawei. We cannot be isolated from the world. We can also do the same chip as the US chip, but it does not mean that we will not buy it.
About the chip
It’s not good to do chips, and companies need physicists and mathematicians. Huawei has at least 700 mathematicians, more than 800 physicists, more than 120 chemists, six or seven thousand basic research experts, more than 60,000 senior engineers and engineers. The scientists and experts we have compiled more than 15,000 basic researches are turning money into knowledge. We have more than 60,000 application talents to develop products and turn knowledge into money. We have always supported scientists outside the company to conduct scientific research and exploration.
About homegrown
Our mass production capacity is still very large, it will not cause negative growth of our company, and will not harm the development of the industry.
About Aihuawei
Our family is still using Apple mobile phones. Apple's ecology is very good. When I go abroad, my family will send them Apple computers. I can't narrowly think that I love Huawei as a mobile phone.
At present, there are two kinds of emotions for Huawei. One is that distinct patriotism supports Huawei, and the other is that Huawei has kidnapped the patriotic sentiment of the whole society. Ren Zhengfei said that his child does not love Huawei because he loves apples. Yu Chengdong always said that the boss did not promote for us. We stop them from shouting slogans and not inciting national sentiments.
About capital intervention
Huawei does not easily allow capital to come in, because the nature of capital greed will undermine the realization of our ideals.
About family
The most sorry thing about my life is my own children. I was too busy when I started a business. I had less time to communicate with them. When I was young, the company was in a dying struggle for survival. I often had little contact with children for a few months. I owe them. They are very demanding on their own. They work very hard. For example, when the younger daughter is a child, she has to dance for 15 hours every week. When she is in college, she does her homework at 2 am or even 4 or 5 o'clock.
Huawei: Ability to continue to develop and use the Android ecosystem
In response to the fact that Google Inc. will stop providing technical support for Android, China Huawei responded on the 20th that Huawei has the ability to continue to develop and use the Android ecosystem, including Huawei and Glory brand products and services including smartphones and tablets. The Chinese market is not affected. In the future, Huawei will continue to build a safe and sustainable development environment for the whole scene, providing better services to users.
Chinese Foreign Ministry: The responsibility of the US to pass on is futile.
According to reports, US President Trump said on the 17th that the United States and China actually have an agreement, but China has broken the agreement. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Hao said on the 20th that China does not know what the "agreement" the US has said, but it is certainly not an agreement that China has agreed to. The US wants to confuse the burden of audio-visual transfer, which is futile.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Wei: The 11-round economic and trade consultation between China and the United States failed to reach an agreement. The fundamental reason is that the US tried to achieve unreasonable interests through extreme pressure. This will not work from the beginning. In the case of unsuccessful attempts to trigger widespread suspicion and market turmoil in the United States and abroad, the United States wants to confuse the responsibility of audio-visual transfer, which is also futile. The sincerity and constructive attitude that China has shown in the past 11 rounds of negotiations is obvious to the international community.
According to German media reports, after years of review, the United Kingdom, Germany and the European Union have not found a significant "back door" for Huawei products, but Cisco equipment in the United States has often been found to have security vulnerabilities. Since 2013, there have been 10 "back door" incidents. Lu Hao said that China especially wants to listen to the comments of the US.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Yi: The United States has taken its own heart to the forefront of its own people. In order to gain unfair competitive advantage and smear the smuggling of other countries, it has never been able to produce decent evidence. The above findings of the European side prove Huawei's innocence, and it also exposes the illegitimate nature of the United States using state power to suppress other countries' enterprises.
Lu Hao responded to Google’s suspension of some of Huawei’s business.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Wei: We have seen the report and noticed that Google has suspended the suspension of Huawei's software and hardware transfer business and suspended the provision of related services to Huawei. The Chinese side will formally confirm the matter and further actively pay attention to the progress of the situation. At the same time, China supports Chinese companies in picking up legal weapons to defend their legitimate rights.
US bans Huawei or loses billions of dollars to US companies
On the 15th, the US government issued a restricted transaction order for companies such as Huawei. CNN recently reported that Huawei has purchased key components from dozens of US technology companies and is the world's second largest smartphone seller.
Last year, Huawei purchased about $10 billion worth of parts from about 13,000 suppliers. Of these, about $11 billion were purchased from these US technology companies, including Qualcomm, Broadcom, Microsoft and Google.
If the Trump administration bans Huawei, US companies will lose billions of dollars. Lawrence Ward, a partner at Deutsche Bank, said the US government ban would disrupt global supply chains.
US chip stocks have suffered heavy losses in recent days. Qualcomm and Broadcom collectively plunged overnight.
In the context of the recent intensification of Sino-US trade frictions, the US government's ban on Huawei has caused investors to worry about technology stocks and economic prospects, while US and chip-related stocks have fallen sharply.
STMicroelectronics plunged 8.42% overnight.
Chip giant Qualcomm plunged 5.99%, and the decline was significantly worse than the previous trading days.
The share price of another big giant, Broadcom, also plummeted 5.97%, with a huge downward gap.
Micro-core technology fell 4.47%, Micron Technology fell 3.99%, TSMC fell about 4%, and NVIDIA, AMD, Intel and other chip-related stocks fell about 3%.
The exception is that SMIC's share price in the US rose 7.97%.
In general, the recent mobilization of US stocks is still mainly from technology stocks. In particular, the US government restricts US companies from providing products and services to Huawei. The market is worried that related technology companies will suffer performance losses due to the loss of important customers, making technology stocks concentrated. The Nasdaq index is significantly weaker than the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the Standard & Poor's 500 Index. The Nasdaq index fell 1.46% overnight, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell only 0.33%.
In contrast, the chip concept of the A-share market has been active recently, but at present, the relevant stocks have become more differentiated.
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Ren Zhengfei: Huawei 5G will never be affected. Others will definitely not catch up in two or three years.
May 21, 2019 09:11 Sina Technology Integration
Ren Zhengfei answered Dong Qian: The US “90-day temporary license” does not make much sense to us. We are ready, but we are very grateful to the American companies. They have made a lot of contributions to us. Many of our consultants are from American companies such as IBM. .
Ren Zhengfei: We were controlled by US entities a year ago.
Ren Zhengfei: Huawei's 5G is definitely not affected. In terms of 5G technology, others will definitely not be able to catch up with Huawei in two or three years.
Ren Zhengfei: The US ban will not cause negative growth and will not affect the company's development.
May 21, 2019 09:27 Sina Technology
Sina Technology News On the morning of May 21, Ren Zhengfei said in an interview with the media today that in the middle of the week, the mobile bidding, 40 cities won the bid, 37, and did not stop development because of the US ban. It will not cause negative growth in the company's development, nor will it affect the company's development.
Key words : Ren Zhengfei chip Huawei
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