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Good news - No more Chinese airlines flight to US

winnipegjets

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China stop US airlines from flying to china. So its fair.

I didn't say it was not fair but it was not a case of the Chinese banning US airlines from flying there. Just as the US demands that foreign carriers comply with their directives, China has that equal right to do likewise. The US airlines chose not to comply. The days where the US can boss its way around in China are over.
 

syed putra

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I didn't say it was not fair but it was not a case of the Chinese banning US airlines from flying there. Just as the US demands that foreign carriers comply with their directives, China has that equal right to do likewise. The US airlines chose not to comply. The days where the US can boss its way around in China are over.
They have a open skies agreement.
 

laksaboy

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Well, this is just the beginning. Soon the embassies will be closed and the ambassadors chased out. :cool:
 

Peiweh

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This is fantastic news, China troll! Yes!

Do you know how crappy Chinese Airlines are?

I read this one online review of China Southern and yikes! Terrrible! $5 bottle of champagne! SQ laughing all the way

https://onemileatatime.com/china-southern-a380-first-class-platinum-private-suite/

China Southern A380 First Class Platinum Private Suite
I flew the outbound from Los Angeles to Guangzhou in China Southern A380 First Class (aka Platinum Private Suite) on Thursday night, and figured I’d share my initial impressions. I’ll keep this brief, since I’ll actually be publishing the detailed trip report in about a week. Anyway, my initial thoughts:
China Southern A380 first class seats
China Southern has just eight first class suites on the lower deck. They’re spread across two rows, in a 1-2-1 configuration.
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The seats look bland based on the finishes, though are incredibly comfortable, spacious, and fully enclosed. Purely in terms of the hard product it’s one of the best out there, in my opinion.
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The flight time was just over 15 hours, and I managed to sleep for nearly two thirds of that.
China Southern A380 first class food & drinks
Lets start with the drinks. China Southern A380 first class must be one of the least reviewed first class products out there, so I had no clue what to expect in terms of champagne. I figured maybe they serve Krug, maybe Dom, maybe Grand Sicele, etc.
I was legitimately in disbelief when I found out their “champagne” is Duc de Paris sparkling wine.
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This retails for less than $5 per bottle.:
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I mean, sometimes I joke about airlines serving Korbel, but that would have been considered premium compared to this. I mean, it tasted worse than the Welch’s sparkling grape juice my mother would buy me for New Years Eve when I was a kid. Interestingly there was no wine or beverage list on the flight. I guess that shouldn’t really be surprising from the airline that markets themselves as “serving over 8 kinds of beverage” in premium cabins on international flights.
As far as the food goes, it was perfectly edible and tasted good, but certainly simple. The meal is what I’d expect from a solid business class product, and not really first class. There was no salmon, caviar, etc. Then again, I’ll take a simple meal that tastes pretty good over an overly complex meal that’s entirely style over substance.

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The other thing that surprised me is that there was no snack menu. I mean, we’re talking about a 15 hour flight here, and the only snacks they had available were saran wrapped ham and cheese sandwiches. My favorite part of flying Cathay Pacific first class is their snack menu, between the egg tarts, crab cakes, and noodle soup.
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China Southern A380 first class service
Is it reasonable to expect a crew on a US bound flight to speak at least a decent amount of English? I dunno, you guys let me know in the comments.
Simply stating a fact (as opposed to judging, since I know how tough it can be to learn additional languages) — the crew didn’t speak English well at all, and there were constantly communication barriers. I’m sure someone will say “well how’s your Cantonese, Lucky?” So I’ll answer that up front and say “no bueno!”
One small example. A few hours before landing I was drinking coffee and spilled some on my (white) shirt. The lavatory was occupied (more on that below), so I pushed the call button and the flight attendant showed up immediately. I asked for a napkin. She didn’t understand me. I pointed at my shirt, made a “rubbing” motion, and asked, for a napkin. She nodded her head as if she understood what I meant.
A minute later the other flight attendant shows up — “my partner says you need something?” “Yes, I spilled coffee all over my shirt, could I have a napkin please?” Again, I’m pointing at my shirt which has coffee stains all over it. She says “ah, you would like more coffee?”
I again said “napkin,” and made a rubbing motion on my shirt as if I was trying to clean it. She comes back a minute later wearing gloves with a box of Kleenex tissues. Maybe she misunderstood the rubbing motion I was making? I dunno…
So there were three passengers in first class, but for the middle 12 hours of the flight all the suites were occupied. It was bizarre. I slept after dinner and then woke up, only to find five flight attendants sleeping in the empty suites. Don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t bother me or detract from my enjoyment of the flight in any way, I just found it odd since I’d assume most airlines have a policy against that.
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I went back to sleep and woke up, and this time all the suites were taken once again with totally different people. Except this time they didn’t appear to be flight attendants, but rather passengers. One suite even had an older lady with two kids in it. What the…?
It’s also worth noting that there’s one lavatory in first class. That’s a perfectly reasonable ratio of eight passengers to one lavatory. Unfortunately that also seemed to be the lavatory for any flight attendant looking to go number two, since it was probably occupied for 90% of the flight in 20 minute chunks intervals.
I know it’s Chinese New Year and the “year of the horse,” but that doesn’t mean the lavatory has to be scented as such. Literally every time I went in there it reeked and there were “stains.” I feel like crews should have better bathroom etiquette than that! Compare that to Singapore Airlines, where the flight attendant is literally standing outside the lavatory waiting to refresh it after every use…
Bottom line on China Southern A380 first class
Top notch hard product, lacking soft product. Lots more service “details” I’ll share with the full review — stay tuned!
 

Peiweh

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If you think Chinese airlines are bad, wait till you see their aircraft carriers. :cool:
Oh you mean the liolianjo or whatever its called? The Ski jump carrier? So when a plane takes off do the deck crew give it a score? 8 for pitch? Are we supposed to be impressed ? What a joke their military is.

China lied people died
 

countryman

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What's the 1st class airfare u are paying 1st compared to SQ's? If the difference is heaven n earth than u shouldn't be complaining too much!
 

Peiweh

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What's the 1st class airfare u are paying 1st compared to SQ's? If the difference is heaven n earth than u shouldn't be complaining too much!
Did you read the review? The PRC flight attendant thought the Passenger wanted to jerk off. Or did she offer to jerk him off?

China lied people died
 

Peiweh

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What's the 1st class airfare u are paying 1st compared to SQ's? If the difference is heaven n earth than u shouldn't be complaining too much!
looked it up. Airfare is $19,103 USD. SQ might be cheaper, and they serve Krug not $5 bottle of champagne.
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11:50 PM – 5:40 AM+2
China Southern
14h 50m
LAX–CAN
Nonstop


$19,103
 

countryman

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looked it up. Airfare is $19,103 USD. SQ might be cheaper, and they serve Krug not $5 bottle of champagne.
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11:50 PM – 5:40 AM+2
China Southern
14h 50m
LAX–CAN
Nonstop


$19,103
No way it can be US$19k Lax - Can returned on suites China Southern.. Grossly exaggerated!
It's @least 50% more on Sin - Lhr returned on SQ suites..
Only an idiot would pay US$19k for that China Southern ticket. This is just the published price, it's definitely much much cheaper.
 

Peiweh

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No way it can be US$19k Lax - Can returned on suites China Southern.. Grossly exaggerated!
It's @least 50% more on Sin - Lhr returned on SQ suites..
Only an idiot would pay US$19k for that China Southern ticket. This is just the published price, it's definitely much much cheaper.

Thats the price on google flights. There is a fare on 13th, 20th,27th of September.

https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en#flt=LAX.CAN.2020-09-13;c:USD;e:1;s:0;sc:f;sd:1;t:f;tt:o

round trip is $31,896 USD

https://www.google.com/flights?hl=e....LAX.2020-10-26;c:USD;e:1;s:0*0;sc:f;sd:1;t:f

china lied people died
 

Peiweh

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No way it can be US$19k Lax - Can returned on suites China Southern.. Grossly exaggerated!
It's @least 50% more on Sin - Lhr returned on SQ suites..
Only an idiot would pay US$19k for that China Southern ticket. This is just the published price, it's definitely much much cheaper.

https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en#flt=SFO.HKG.2020-09-01;c:USD;e:1;s:0;sc:f;sd:1;t:f;tt:o
SQ SFO - HKG is 9K

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    1:15 AM – 6:35 AM+1
    Singapore Airlines
    14h 20m
    SFO–HKG
    Nonstop


    $8,310
 
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