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Good! China Raises Tax from 15% to 45% for Overseas Chinese. Many leaving SG/HK Cannot Tahan

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Chinese professionals shocked by 45% China tax rate consider leaving Hong Kong


HONG KONG (BLOOMBERG) - Fears of a Hong Kong brain drain are increasing after China moved to tax its citizens' global income, undermining the financial hub's appeal to thousands of bankers and other white-collar workers from the mainland.

Faced with a tax rate as high as 45 per cent - up from about 15 per cent previously - Chinese professionals across Hong Kong are considering moving back home to avoid getting squeezed by both the new levy and sky-high living costs in the former British colony, according to interviews with workers and recruiters.

The prospect of an exodus has upended expectations that mainland talent would help offset any outflow of locals and foreign expatriates from Hong Hong, many of whom are looking to escape the city's controversial new national security legislation.


While it's too early to gauge how many people will ultimately move out, professionals of all stripes now have reasons to leave a city that not long ago was viewed as one of the world's most attractive places to build a career. That risks weighing on Hong Kong's battered economy and further undermining its status as a premier financial center.

The focus on China's new tax regime has intensified in recent weeks after state-owned enterprises (SOEs) in Hong Kong told workers who transferred from the mainland to declare their 2019 income so they can start paying taxes at home. Chinese SOEs are also informing employees in other locations such as Singapore, Bloomberg News reported last week.

While Chinese authorities revised the nation's tax rules in January 2019, they only recently disclosed detailed instructions on how to comply - a move that caught many workers off guard.


Some companies may act to soften the blow by boosting salaries, particularly for high-ranking executives, but most employees will likely have to absorb the hit to their take-home pay, according to Feng Ao, president of Wosheng Law Quotient Academy, a consultancy that advises China's banks, insurers and trusts on tax laws."For the vast majority of employees, the chance of giving subsidies and raises depends on the company's profitability," Mr Feng said. "It's unlikely to happen given the global macro environment amid the pandemic."


One senior executive at a Chinese state-owned bank said his tax bills will now probably wipe out the savings he amassed since moving his family to Hong Kong a few years ago. His colleagues have petitioned superiors in Beijing for relief, but have so far failed to gain much traction. Some are considering moving back to China or swapping into a Hong Kong passport if they've lived in the city long enough to qualify, said the banker, who like several people interviewed for this story asked not to be named discussing a sensitive subject.

Hong Kong has granted more than 340,000 immigration visas to people from mainland China over the past five years, government figures show.

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Investment bankers in the city typically earn about 25 per cent to 30 per cent more than those in Shanghai, according to recruiters, though much of that extra pay gets whittled away by higher living costs. Hong Kong is the world's sixth-most expensive city for expatriates, compared with 19th for Shanghai and 24th for Beijing, a recent survey by ECA International found.

Some Chinese workers may have little choice but to stick it out in Hong Kong, according to Lee Quane, regional director for Asia at ECA, an advisory firm for expats."There's often a reason why they're working in Hong Kong rather than in mainland China, because it's a better location for them to work in terms of the jobs that they do," Mr Quane said.

Others are hoping they'll stay under the Chinese government's radar. An employee at a major China-backed telecommunications firm said some of her Chinese colleagues who were hired locally are taking a wait-and-see approach and won't declare income voluntarily. Those who relocated from the mainland will likely have their Chinese taxes directly deducted, she said.It's unclear how stringently Chinese authorities will apply the tax laws to citizens who were hired overseas or who don't work for state-owned companies.

China's Liaison Office in Hong Kong and the State Taxation Administration didn't respond to faxes seeking comment.

Donald, an executive at a state-owned Chinese lender in Hong Kong, said his firm is working on a plan to provide interest-free loans or cash payouts to impacted employees, but he doubts the compensation will last beyond a year. Moving back to mainland China has become one of his biggest priorities.

"In a nutshell, my pay is now subject to the high tax rate on the mainland but I need to cover the high cost of living in Hong Kong," he said. "It's a double whammy."
 
They can consider to send in throb money to safe Haven like Singapore. Here you can use your money and derive more money just by investing in our Pte Property, of course pay a little more absd.

Is a island hope and same Time a paradise , be blessed. Join the blessed one.
 
They can consider to send in throb money to safe Haven like Singapore. Here you can use your money and derive more money just by investing in our Pte Property, of course pay a little more absd.

Is a island hope and same Time a paradise , be blessed. Join the blessed one.

Sure, but if you're even remotely linked to the CCP regime in China, there will be no place on the planet that is safe for your money. :cool:
 
PRC can trace all the monies flowing globally?
 
what will happen to One Belt One Road expats in overseas ?

OBOR is a colossal flop. It's just Winnie's little wet dream of becoming emperor of the world. :biggrin:

Too bad many twits have been swindled. :cool:

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Communism will bite the average Chinese hard who all these time thinks Communism is benevolent and beneficial for mankind.

Same as the local Sinkies who thinks PAP is the benevolent leader, until one day they find the rug pulled from under their feet.

A common trait amongst the DNA.
 
Communism will bite the average Chinese hard who all these time thinks Communism is benevolent and beneficial for mankind.

Same as the local Sinkies who thinks PAP is the benevolent leader, until one day they find the rug pulled from under their feet.

A common trait amongst the DNA.

All Asians, not just Chinese, worship the strongman... the 'divine mandate to rule'. Unchecked power, limitless flattering, dynastic succession.

The ang mohs used to do that too... but they discarded those childish sentiments with the Magna Carta, the French Revolution and the founding of the USA.
 
All Asians, not just Chinese, worship the strongman... the 'divine mandate to rule'. Unchecked power, limitless flattering, dynastic succession.

The ang mohs used to do that too... but they discarded those childish sentiments with the Magna Carta, the French Revolution and the founding of the USA.

You have a point there. The white man learnt their lesson through the barrel of the gun. However we in Asia don't have guns thus are doomed to forever not learning this lesson.
 
All Asians, not just Chinese, worship the strongman... the 'divine mandate to rule'. Unchecked power, limitless flattering, dynastic succession.

The ang mohs used to do that too... but they discarded those childish sentiments with the Magna Carta, the French Revolution and the founding of the USA.

And also the Marxist revolution.
Life ultimately is a battle of the classes.
Magna carta ultimately is to take power away from the king and hand it to the people.if that isnt..... I dunno what is.
 
All Asians, not just Chinese, worship the strongman... the 'divine mandate to rule'. Unchecked power, limitless flattering, dynastic succession.

The ang mohs used to do that too... but they discarded those childish sentiments with the Magna Carta, the French Revolution and the founding of the USA.

The Confucian mindset makes chinks even more susceptible. That's why we have so many CCP Confucian Institutes all over the world. Confucianism is the corruption of chinks' brains.

The Dangers Of China's “Back to Confucianism” Nostalgia

Confucianism is about hierarchies, patriarchy, nepotism, abuse of officialdom, pure inequality, and moral dictatorship, and not a few people (Lu Xun, say, or Mao Zedong, most European philosophers, world historians, including Japan which emancipated from the Chinese tradition) in fact have argued that Confucianism had been the main reason for China's cultural backwardness, no offense intended. In fact, China may be so corrupt today not despite the Confucian legacy but partly because of it.

The Confucian Canon, often referred to as a code of conduct rather than a proper religion, is essentially an instruction manual for cult leaders and dictators on how to morally blackmail the people into obedience. Hence the absence of universal concepts of freedom, individualism, and human rights (although there's a lot in it about human responsibilities, like filial piety, obedience, dependency) in China.

In fact, it takes forever to establish the rule of law in China precisely because Confucius believed that coercing people with a sense of obligation, shame and "face" works just as fine, with the unenviable consequences that the people of China, in Hegel's words, "cherish the meanest opinion of themselves, and believe that they are born only to drag the car of Imperial Power."

Not a few China experts seem to suggest that the troubled Communist Party of China under Xi Jinping, instead of dashing into an unknown future (of liberal democracy and Westernization, perhaps?), may want to revive Confucianism in order to justify its authoritarian grip on power. As I said, Confucianism works fantastic at that: The Confucian ideal of a government run by supreme human beings –the junzi- with supposedly superior moral values (not dissimilar to Plato's fascist Philosopher Kings) is possibly the greatest corruption of all.
 
The Confucian mindset makes chinks even more susceptible. That's why we have so many CCP Confucian Institutes all over the world. Confucianism is the corruption of chinks' brains.

The Dangers Of China's “Back to Confucianism” Nostalgia

Confucianism is about hierarchies, patriarchy, nepotism, abuse of officialdom, pure inequality, and moral dictatorship, and not a few people (Lu Xun, say, or Mao Zedong, most European philosophers, world historians, including Japan which emancipated from the Chinese tradition) in fact have argued that Confucianism had been the main reason for China's cultural backwardness, no offense intended. In fact, China may be so corrupt today not despite the Confucian legacy but partly because of it.

The Confucian Canon, often referred to as a code of conduct rather than a proper religion, is essentially an instruction manual for cult leaders and dictators on how to morally blackmail the people into obedience. Hence the absence of universal concepts of freedom, individualism, and human rights (although there's a lot in it about human responsibilities, like filial piety, obedience, dependency) in China.

In fact, it takes forever to establish the rule of law in China precisely because Confucius believed that coercing people with a sense of obligation, shame and "face" works just as fine, with the unenviable consequences that the people of China, in Hegel's words, "cherish the meanest opinion of themselves, and believe that they are born only to drag the car of Imperial Power."

Not a few China experts seem to suggest that the troubled Communist Party of China under Xi Jinping, instead of dashing into an unknown future (of liberal democracy and Westernization, perhaps?), may want to revive Confucianism in order to justify its authoritarian grip on power. As I said, Confucianism works fantastic at that: The Confucian ideal of a government run by supreme human beings –the junzi- with supposedly superior moral values (not dissimilar to Plato's fascist Philosopher Kings) is possibly the greatest corruption of all.
Thats is probably why malays prefer Lao Tze. They contribute to society by doing nothing.
 
And also the Marxist revolution.
Life ultimately is a battle of the classes.
life is a battle.
Magna carta ultimately is to take power away from the king and hand it to the people.if that isnt..... I dunno what is.
and right here is the prime example of why laws keeping society in check is superior to ideological revolution. :thumbsup:
 
The Confucian mindset makes chinks even more susceptible. That's why we have so many CCP Confucian Institutes all over the world. Confucianism is the corruption of chinks' brains.
makes their brains soft like rotten tomatoes!! :thumbsup:
 
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