God spoke to Kong Hee again to boldly say "What Can Men Do To Me"
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One of their lawyers is suggesting CHC must deceive in order to convert people to Christianity.
"If the church had directly funded the project and people outside of the church came to know of its involvement, that might have "defeated the purpose", said Mr Khoo. Thus, the church needed external companies such as Xtron Productions to fund and manage Ms Ho's career."
http://thecourtroom.stomp.com.sg/courtroom/cases/city-harvest-case/city-harvest-trial-sun-hos-music-was-meant-to-convert-people-to-christianity
"If the church had directly funded the project and people outside of the church came to know of its involvement, that might have "defeated the purpose", said Mr Khoo. Thus, the church needed external companies such as Xtron Productions to fund and manage Ms Ho's career."
http://thecourtroom.stomp.com.sg/courtroom/cases/city-harvest-case/city-harvest-trial-sun-hos-music-was-meant-to-convert-people-to-christianity
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Splendid. Now he can win souls for Jesus when he's in prison.
Surely ministering to prison inmates is more spiritually fulfilling that giving cleverly packaged pop psychology pep talks to well-dressed yuppies packed inside a mega-auditorium every week.
If you're the shepherd that you so claim to be, go feed the lost sheep.
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Many things men can do to KH. One Ah Tong will charge him hefty legal fees. 2 or 3 from AGC will ignore God and prosecute KH. Another will sentence him to jail.
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Don't be an ignoramus you should know perfectly well that religion is a business just like any other. In order to be successful, you need customers not sheep.
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CHC Confessions:
"I have known Kong and his gang since 1987. I just have this to say. Since those time spent in the 80's, I know, we know, even SH knows, KH likes to exaggerate stuff. If something is 1 cm long, he tends to make it sound like a foot long and a ton heavy, if 10 people responded in a crowd, he can say response was "overwhelming", "unexpected"...etc. He tends to dramatize A LOT in his public sermons. (Privately he's can be more direct and in-your-face)
Just look at him on stage, narrate or preach...he adds in A LOT of little details here and there, "there was a huge wave of shout", "people were freaking out"....and then you add on his facial expressions, the tone he delivers his dramatizations, all the ra-ra either makes you believe him even more or just feel a huge "turn off"...IMO, the younger ones will buy in, the older ones will brush him off....I was both becos I was young then but I started brushing him off as I enter professional worklife and adulthood. I still wonder where he gets all this traits from. Just talk normal cannot meh? (That's why I think CHC will always, always be a youth church. CHC cannot cater to adults.)
I remembered the leaders including SH raised some concerns about this before (in the 80s /90s)...things did change for awhile but also quickly the old drama king returns.
So my friends (outside and inside CHC), just know this about the man...He is not perfect, he has his owns struggles. Give him some slack. He likes big time drama, the bright lights, (anyone say HOLLYWOOD??) the glitter, the shout, the big show, everything has to be loud, make a statement and impact...etc etc...ra-ra and rawr!!! Till this day I still don't get it why a need for leader to be so drama, a truth is a truth, God's word on its own is good enough, it convict hearts, save souls and change circumstances...all that drama is just a man's addition, futile effort to make things look "WOW!!" i.e. turn man's eyes to another man or woman and away from the real power of God's word and His Son's finished work.
In fact a secure man, both in himself and God should be cool, calm, collected and unwavering. There's something Kingly about him. More so when under stress, tremendous stress, all the more you see how steady a man really is.
For the record, a part of my "growing up" process include my decision to finally leave CHC and many childhood friendships. And since then I am very happy where I am, blessed with the good word shared to me and my loved ones every week."
"I have known Kong and his gang since 1987. I just have this to say. Since those time spent in the 80's, I know, we know, even SH knows, KH likes to exaggerate stuff. If something is 1 cm long, he tends to make it sound like a foot long and a ton heavy, if 10 people responded in a crowd, he can say response was "overwhelming", "unexpected"...etc. He tends to dramatize A LOT in his public sermons. (Privately he's can be more direct and in-your-face)
Just look at him on stage, narrate or preach...he adds in A LOT of little details here and there, "there was a huge wave of shout", "people were freaking out"....and then you add on his facial expressions, the tone he delivers his dramatizations, all the ra-ra either makes you believe him even more or just feel a huge "turn off"...IMO, the younger ones will buy in, the older ones will brush him off....I was both becos I was young then but I started brushing him off as I enter professional worklife and adulthood. I still wonder where he gets all this traits from. Just talk normal cannot meh? (That's why I think CHC will always, always be a youth church. CHC cannot cater to adults.)
I remembered the leaders including SH raised some concerns about this before (in the 80s /90s)...things did change for awhile but also quickly the old drama king returns.
So my friends (outside and inside CHC), just know this about the man...He is not perfect, he has his owns struggles. Give him some slack. He likes big time drama, the bright lights, (anyone say HOLLYWOOD??) the glitter, the shout, the big show, everything has to be loud, make a statement and impact...etc etc...ra-ra and rawr!!! Till this day I still don't get it why a need for leader to be so drama, a truth is a truth, God's word on its own is good enough, it convict hearts, save souls and change circumstances...all that drama is just a man's addition, futile effort to make things look "WOW!!" i.e. turn man's eyes to another man or woman and away from the real power of God's word and His Son's finished work.
In fact a secure man, both in himself and God should be cool, calm, collected and unwavering. There's something Kingly about him. More so when under stress, tremendous stress, all the more you see how steady a man really is.
For the record, a part of my "growing up" process include my decision to finally leave CHC and many childhood friendships. And since then I am very happy where I am, blessed with the good word shared to me and my loved ones every week."
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In order to collect megabucks, you have to create a "larger than life" persona. He does it very well. Kudos to him.
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Isn't it ironic that he quote this scripture but left out the first passage (quoting only half of verse 5 to suit his message)?
Hebrew 13
5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”[a]
6 So we say with confidence,
“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can mere mortals do to me?”
Hebrew 13
5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”[a]
6 So we say with confidence,
“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can mere mortals do to me?”
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It's the other way, churches need sheep, whorehouse needs customers.
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Churches are whorehouses. Customers go there to cum before God.
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Judging from the responses here, I think he should be more worried about what men can do to his wife.
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Haha I like your sense of humour.
A woman in the church hopes for her soul while another in the whorehouse has soap for her hole.
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When does the trial verdict come out?
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