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Glittering Nobel peace ceremony hails absent laureate Liu Xiaobo

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President Obama, who received the peace prize last year, said in a statement that "Mr. Liu Xiaobo is far more deserving of this award than I was."
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Nobel peace ceremony hails absent laureate Liu Xiaobo
AFP, Dec 10, 2010, 05.50pm

China's empty threats have no effect.

OSLO: The Nobel Peace Prize ceremony began in Oslo Friday without laureate Liu Xiaobo, a jailed Chinese dissident, who was represented by an empty chair at the event that has enraged Beijing.

As a small pro-China demonstration went ahead in Oslo, Chinese dissidents, ambassadors from a number of countries, Norway's king and queen and other dignitaries defied Chinese anger to attend the ceremony in a flower-decked Oslo city hall.

In China live broadcasts of the event by CNN and the BBC were blacked out by censors as last year's laureate, US President Barack Obama, hailed Liu as a representative of "universal" values, calling on China to release the jailed dissident "as soon as possible."

Obama, who received the peace prize last year, said in a statement that "Mr. Liu Xiaobo is far more deserving of this award than I was."

Friday marked only the second time in the more than 100-year history of the prize that neither the laureate nor a representative is able to accept the award.

The only other time was when German journalist and pacifist Carl von Ossietzky, who was locked up in a Nazi concentration camp, could not travel to Oslo for his prize ceremony in 1936.


Like Ossietzky, who was a critic of the regime under which he lived, Liu has long been an outspoken opponent of Chinese leadership in Beijing.

The writer and former university professor was at the forefront of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.

He was jailed in December 2009 for 11 years on subversion charges after co-authoring "Charter 08", a manifesto that spread quickly on the Internet calling for political reform and greater rights in China.

"I have long been aware that when an independent intellectual stands up to an autocratic state, step one toward freedom is often a step into prison," Liu said shortly after his sentence was handed down on Christmas Day.

"Now I am taking that step, and true freedom is that much nearer," he added.

In addition to the empty chair, Liu was represented at the event by a photograph, and Norwegian actress Liv Ullmann was scheduled to read one of his texts.

He will receive his gold medal, Nobel diploma and prize money of 10 million Swedish kronor (1.1 million euros, 1.5 million dollars) at a later date.

Beijing has reacted with fury to the prize, describing the Norwegian Nobel Committee as "clowns," and threatening "consequences" for countries that show Liu support and clamping down on media and dissidents at home.

The laureate's wife, Liu Xia, has been placed under house arrest since the prize was announced on October 8, and hours before Friday's ceremony in Oslo, security was strong in front of her Beijing apartment complex, with marked and unmarked police cars lining the road.

While many dissidents in China were blocked from making the trip to Oslo, around 100 Chinese dissidents living abroad were attending the event.

A group of around 50 Chinese demonstrators meanwhile gathered in central Oslo shortly before the prize ceremony to protest the award to Liu.

The protesters, carrying similar yellow posters with slogans in English and Chinese expressing anti-Liu sentiments -- "Law breaker = Peace Prize," and "Peace Prize to China" as well as a long banner stating "Opposition to the Norwegian Nobel Committee" -- were outnumbered by reporters and photographers.
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Those fucking commies from the foreign ministry of Commiunist China are really stupid,they tot PRC today with its 2.6 trillion of Uncle Sam's worthless money,can challenge the world.

Fuckers,not the Chinese people but the fucking uselss brainless commies whos best friends are crazy,mad, brandy loving Chairman Kim and murderous Generals fr Myanmar!

Not yet biys yuou better wait for another 50 years or more
 
Those fucking commies from the foreign ministry of Commiunist China are really stupid,they tot PRC today with its 2.6 trillion of Uncle Sam's worthless money,can challenge the world.

Fuckers,not the Chinese people but the fucking uselss brainless commies whos best friends are crazy,mad, brandy loving Chairman Kim and murderous Generals fr Myanmar!

Not yet biys yuou better wait for another 50 years or more


Fuck you

You are a third-class chinese immigrant as well :oIo:
 
Agree Beijing is make mountain out of molehill.

But must not forget how Beijing lifted an entire country out of poverty. By all metrics, hundreds of millions of people are living better, have better medical care, toilet and running water, good paying jobs, women's rights. I feel that is much better than symbolic Nobel gift. I believe that Obama was given one even before he did anythingas president.

But as China tries to aim for 1st world standard of living, it is time for them to loosen up on their reins.

It matters not what the political system is as long as they can deliver. There are many democracies that is all hot air with little to show in terms of delivering improvements to the lives of the masses.
 
Agree Beijing is make mountain out of molehill.

But must not forget how Beijing lifted an entire country out of poverty. By all metrics, hundreds of millions of people are living better, have better medical care, toilet and running water, good paying jobs, women's rights. I feel that is much better than symbolic Nobel gift. I believe that Obama was given one even before he did anythingas president.

But as China tries to aim for 1st world standard of living, it is time for them to loosen up on their reins.

It matters not what the political system is as long as they can deliver. There are many democracies that is all hot air with little to show in terms of delivering improvements to the lives of the masses.

Longbow. What u say is debatable. It was the same Beijing that kept China impoverished for decades from the time of the long march and earlier. Under the heavy boot of the Commies. Ruthless dogma of the Mao and his commie party and their state command economy, collective farms, decadent state enterprises and so on. Only when the USA granted the MFN status and encouraged China to open up, which it did ( free enterprise with a commie oversee twist anyway ), did the living standards started to improve. Hence we may have to ask, - if Beijing was indeed totally responsible for the well being and improvement ?. And mind you, even after all this 25 plus years of rapid development, almost 500 million citizens are below the poverty line, which is understandable, given the huge numbers involved. The point I am trying to make is..No thanks to the Commies for what positives we see in China. Thank the western markets, Taiwan and HK investors etc. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
Longbow. What u say is debatable. It was the same Beijing that kept China impoverished for decades from the time of the long march and earlier. Under the heavy boot of the Commies. Ruthless dogma of the Mao and his commie party and their state command economy, collective farms, decadent state enterprises and so on. Only when the USA granted the MFN status and encouraged China to open up, which it did ( free enterprise with a commie oversee twist anyway ), did the living standards started to improve. Hence we may have to ask, - if Beijing was indeed totally responsible for the well being and improvement ?. And mind you, even after all this 25 plus years of rapid development, almost 500 million citizens are below the poverty line, which is understandable, given the huge numbers involved. The point I am trying to make is..No thanks to the Commies for what positives we see in China. Thank the western markets, Taiwan and HK investors etc. Correct me if I am wrong.


I dont agree totally.I think the current govt (only commies by name) is working very fine for the past 30 years.They are moving China ahead in a very fast pace without unnecessary impediments.You cannot ask for more comparing what is now and what China was in the last 100 years!

The rule of mother nature is if you gain this,you will lose that.There is no such things in the World that you want everything!
 
I dont agree totally.I think the current govt (only commies by name) is working very fine for the past 30 years.They are moving China ahead in a very fast pace without unnecessary impediments.You cannot ask for more comparing what is now and what China was in the last 100 years!

The rule of mother nature is if you gain this,you will lose that.There is no such things in the World that you want everything!

Capitalism System of Business YES and the Chinese Govt still maintain very tight control on the Economy.
The Communist Tight Control over the Political System, Mass Media and the Peoples of China remain.

China look more Fascist now or maybe the Epoch Times NineCommentaries are right, CCP is actually a Crazy Evil Cult.
 
I dont agree totally.I think the current govt (only commies by name) is working very fine for the past 30 years.They are moving China ahead in a very fast pace without unnecessary impediments.You cannot ask for more comparing what is now and what China was in the last 100 years!

The rule of mother nature is if you gain this,you will lose that.There is no such things in the World that you want everything!

Atleast you say you dont agree totally. Which means you agree in some part.

People have this perception that once capitalism / consumerism is evident, then it means the society is open, the government is open. Some of the worst regimes in the world were not communist too. But they had the same stripes.
Eg: The governments of Latin South America in the 80s.Fully capitlist, stock markets, free enterprise and all. But in real terms cold blooded power freak dictators. They did nt last long because they did not have a political party.

In communism, the party is everything. God, creator, emperor, whatever.
That enables longevity. Ask any PRC citizen in any China province...who is the supreme person there..he will tell you the party secretary. He has life and death power over the province. Now that is COMMUNISM manifested in full glory.
 
Agree Beijing is make mountain out of molehill.

But must not forget how Beijing lifted an entire country out of poverty. By all metrics, hundreds of millions of people are living better, have better medical care, toilet and running water, good paying jobs, women's rights. I feel that is much better than symbolic Nobel gift. I believe that Obama was given one even before he did anythingas president.

Don't give Communist Party of China too much credits by always trumpeting her Economics Reforms and Achievements. China Development could not happen without the Hard Work of the Chinese Peoples.

China made her money on the Coolie Labor, the Blood and Sweat of a Billion Peoples to provide pleasure to the rest of the world. Russia made her wealth on Gas and Oil, not the Enslavement of her Peoples.

China Economic Structure and the returning of Confucian Values today was Sun Yat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek Vision of Modern China. If the Chinese Nationalists had won in 1949, Economic Developments would begun in 1950s, not 1980s. China would be more prosperous today and would definitely be spared 80 Millions Unnatural Deaths from that Tragic Era too.
 
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Atleast you say you dont agree totally. Which means you agree in some part.

People have this perception that once capitalism / consumerism is evident, then it means the society is open, the government is open. Some of the worst regimes in the world were not communist too. But they had the same stripes.
Eg: The governments of Latin South America in the 80s.Fully capitlist, stock markets, free enterprise and all. But in real terms cold blooded power freak dictators. They did nt last long because they did not have a political party.

In communism, the party is everything. God, creator, emperor, whatever.
That enables longevity. Ask any PRC citizen in any China province...who is the supreme person there..he will tell you the party secretary. He has life and death power over the province. Now that is COMMUNISM manifested in full glory.

You guys seems to be judging from news and books but in real life,most of my Chinese colleagues and customers are very satisfied with the current govt and they are reinforcing this views every forthnight I am there!
 
You guys seems to be judging from news and books but in real life,most of my Chinese colleagues and customers are very satisfied with the current govt and they are reinforcing this views every forthnight I am there!

The majority of your Chinese friends obviously doesn't care a shit about the true nature of the Communist Party of China as long as they have enough to eat, drink and make merry. The only human right issues that matter are mine, definitely not that Liu guy.

That's human nature, in China or Singapore all the same.
 
Capitalism System of Business YES and the Chinese Govt still maintain very tight control on the Economy.
The Communist Tight Control over the Political System, Mass Media and the Peoples of China remain.

For a good reason - many prc folks need the stringent control of their law & gahmen because generations of desperation & poverty breed the worst kinds of criminals & immorality. Such folks cannot possibly contribute to their country's or their fellow men's prosperity.

China look more Fascist now or maybe the Epoch Times NineCommentaries are right, CCP is actually a Crazy Evil Cult.

Epoch Times is a subversive shit-stirring paper, founded & funded by Falun Gong & partially funded by the CIA. Now why would you trust what your enemy gossips about you? Enough said.


Don't give Communist Party of China too much credits by always trumpeting her Economics Reforms and Achievements. China Development could not happen without the Hard Work of the Chinese Peoples.

So what?
Look at india, it exploits its keling vermins, but guess what? The "democratic" amazing india is still amazingly poor & corrupt. All developing countries rely on their manpower to build it up. The now "developed" countries (e.g. japan, germany & others) were no different. If you think no shed blood & sufferings were involved in the process, you're clearly ignorant of history.

China would be more prosperous today and would definitely be spared 80 Millions Unnatural Deaths from that Tragic Era too.
Nonsense, china would have been carved up by the colonial powers into squabbling, disunited little fiefdoms today, owned by rapacious, foreign corporations.
 
Agree Beijing is make mountain out of molehill.

But must not forget how Beijing lifted an entire country out of poverty. By all metrics, hundreds of millions of people are living better, have better medical care, toilet and running water, good paying jobs, women's rights. I feel that is much better than symbolic Nobel gift. I believe that Obama was given one even before he did anythingas president.

But as China tries to aim for 1st world standard of living, it is time for them to loosen up on their reins.

It matters not what the political system is as long as they can deliver. There are many democracies that is all hot air with little to show in terms of delivering improvements to the lives of the masses.

this i agree.look at india, philippine and indonesia.. and somemore?they are not communist but their living standard are not up to date yet.
ok.. this i agree with you.democracies might not be the answer to 1st world standard of living...
 
For a good reason - many prc folks need the stringent control of their law & gahmen because generations of desperation & poverty breed the worst kinds of criminals & immorality. Such folks cannot possibly contribute to their country's or their fellow men's prosperity.

Nonsense, china would have been carved up by the colonial powers into squabbling, disunited little fiefdoms today, owned by rapacious, foreign corporations.

Your reasons for justifying CCP totalitarianism control of the Country are very weak.

The Western Powers were leaving China wheater they like it or not after the End of WW2. Chiang Kai Shek had ended all the unequal treaties China was forced to sign by 1944 with the exceptions of Hongkong and Macau. Yalta was another story. Nationalist China would never be a lackey of United States of America.

You properly also believe CCP bullshit that they won Power due to Peasants Support and not because of their Collaboration with Soviet Russia and they were just Agrarian Reformers.
 
Those fucking commies from the foreign ministry of Commiunist China are really stupid,they tot PRC today with its 2.6 trillion of Uncle Sam's worthless money,can challenge the world.

Fuckers,not the Chinese people but the fucking uselss brainless commies whos best friends are crazy,mad, brandy loving Chairman Kim and murderous Generals fr Myanmar!

Not yet biys yuou better wait for another 50 years or more

this i also agree with you wholeheartly.do you guys want a country who produce good quality brand like samsung or you guys want a mad nuclear thinking leader who only know how to threaten the world with bombing another country land and shouting they have nuclear head and we have to listen to them???
communist china is threatening japan if they dont listen to her, she will ban the natural resources to them.

north threaten to produce nuclear bomb, help iran to produce one too, and bomb your land if you dont listen to them.

is this what we want from a big country like china?

and just to remind you guys, please please please....

china is not a communist from day 1.communist not = china.
communist lead by mao drived ROC lead by chiang out of china ONLY!!!

china is china.china not = to the communist.
and ... china dont belong to those few communist gangs!!!
hate communist gang in china ruling china now is ok.
dont hate china!!!! they are innocent!!!!

if one thing we all as chinese , got to do, that is to drive out the communist gangs in china and build a real china again!!!!
 
Your reasons for justifying CCP totalitarianism control of the Country are very weak.

The Western Powers were leaving China wheater they like it or not after the End of WW2. Chiang Kai Shek had ended all the unequal treaties China was forced to sign by 1944 with the exceptions of Hongkong and Macau. Yalta was another story. Nationalist China would never be a lackey of United States of America.

You properly also believe CCP bullshit that they won Power due to Peasants Support and not because of their Collaboration with Soviet Russia and they were just Agrarian Reformers.

totally agree.if chiang kai shek really = USA lackey, then how come when he asked for USA support to fight back to mainland, the U.S dont support???
And also, if chiang is really a U.S lackey, then how about Mao zhedong?dont tell me he was not Commnist Russia lackey too???want prove?i can show prove!!!
 
this i agree.look at india, philippine and indonesia.. and somemore?they are not communist but their living standard are not up to date yet.
ok.. this i agree with you.democracies might not be the answer to 1st world standard of living...

In communism we have such things as Supreme leader, Paramount leader and so on. The party is everything. Even the law is below the party. Any threat to the party , and its dogma says kill it in the bud. Crush it, smother it and wipe out all trace. They have appropriate tags for all types of these enemy groups. Counter revolutionaries, Imperialists, revisionists, Bourgeoisie etc - all mean the same thing. You are a threat to the party and must be eliminated at once. No delay.

In any system without check and balance, that system has to naturally corrupt, degenerate and destroy itself over period of time. It is something like the infallible Second law of Thermodynamics in Physics.

The check and balance in a democracy is the open media and transparency.. warts , pimples and all. But that keeps the system resilient, healthy and tough. Like vaccinations provide immunization to the human body.

But in the Commie system that is not there. And hence they are inherently very weak - thus their extreme paranoia - enemies everywhere, keep a constant lookout and maintain "social stability at all costs" etc etc.

Recently some groups in China, wanted to protest against Japan over the fishing trawler incident. The authorities did not allow..the fear that this could be a ploy by the enemies of the party to stage demos and sneak in as a political movement, no matter how tiny was making the all powerful security bureau say no to the public demos. Just shows you the paranoia the party constantly have.
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" China on the surface appear stable. But underneath it is unstable. India on the surface appear unstable, but underneath it is stable. - Akio Morita. Sony Corp.
 
I have long been aware that when an independent intellectual stands up to an autocratic state, step one toward freedom is often a step into prison," Liu said shortly after his sentence was handed down on Christmas Day.

Same as sinkieland, That is what SDP goes through. SDP represents freedom!!!
 
totally agree.if chiang kai shek really = USA lackey, then how come when he asked for USA support to fight back to mainland, the U.S dont support???
And also, if chiang is really a U.S lackey, then how about Mao zhedong?dont tell me he was not Commnist Russia lackey too???want prove?i can show prove!!!

What annoy me are that some peoples here keep on glorifying Communist Party of China Economic Achievements and every shit and crimes they did in the past are unimportant and forgivable plus their Whitewashing of CCP history. China Economic Development was delayed 30 years by the Crazy Mao who killed more Chinese in Peace than in War.

What limpeh2 say about Epoch Times founded & funded by Falun Gong & partially funded by the CIA are true. I would suggest to listen to it with an open mind. Many of their accusations against CCP are true facts too.
 
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