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苏57受中国歼20刺激展示开弹仓 德媒：技术落后20年
苏57受中国歼20刺激展示开弹仓 德媒：技术落后20年
2018年11月26日 10:37 新浪军事
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歼20航展打开弹舱的展示体现了中国空军的自信，体现了中国以五代战斗机为代表的军事航空工业的巨大进步，也引起了各方的关注。美国的F22、F35战斗机也进行过打开弹舱的展示。实际上，作为五代战斗机的标配，弹舱是其最吸引人的地方。与机翼、机腹下挂满弹药、副油箱的四代机不同，五代机为了追求隐身外形，必须把武器埋入机体内部。弹舱的设计直接关系着五代机的战斗性能，甚至连舱门边角、内部挂钩的设计都大有讲究。
歼20打开弹舱
航展后，俄罗斯方面可能受到了歼20展示的刺激，开始密集公开其SU57五代机的图片与影像资料。首先是其公开了一段影像，显示了在机场停机坪上排列的多架SU57近照——这些飞机都刷上了迷彩和五角星的俄空天军识别标志。作为唯一一种没有打开过弹舱进行清晰展示的五代机（模糊的远距离投弹照片算不上展示），SU57和俄方看上去是感到了压力：到底是不能打开还是不敢打开，质疑声甚至在俄方内部也甚嚣尘上。
SU57
这款光是试验都试验了10年的五代机可谓千呼万唤始出来，都不说向国外宣传俄罗斯军事航空工业尚可一战，起码也要给自己人一个交代吧：SU-57（之前项目代号为T50）从立项到目前为止，已经消耗了3000多亿卢布。其批量生产时间一拖再拖，需要一个解释。
红星电视台拍摄的SU57内部舱室画面
在航展歼20打开弹舱不到10天后，俄罗斯学着歼20的样子，也打开了SU57的弹舱进行展示。这是俄国人目前的第一次开舱展示。俄罗斯红星电视台进行了报道。照片中，SU57停在机库内，采访者和镜头对其舱门和内部结构进行了细致拍摄，堪称零距离，公开程度在俄军中是十分少见的。看来，俄军急切地希望展现SU57的战斗力和细节，以进行宣传——毕竟是一款拿来外贸的产品。
SU27
与歼20打开弹舱引来的赞叹不同，SU57的开舱展示则引来了一片质疑——伴随着弹舱的打开，其存在的许多弱点被一眼看穿。德国《世界报》的评论家在19日的文章中指出，SU57的后部结构与SU27几乎一样，而其特有的弹舱内部布置十分老旧，无论是尺寸还是内部挂架都无法满足挂载R37M远程拦截导弹的能力——而这种能力是俄罗斯之前一直强调的SU57的优势之一。甚至连飞机弹舱的舱门也没有进行特殊处理。《世界报》的文章这样叙述：技术水平停留在20年前，如果不提示还以为是哪一款战斗轰炸机的弹舱，完全没有五代机的水准。
F22
可以认为，伴随着这次近距离展示，SU57的光环已经快消褪殆尽了。俄罗斯一直将其看做压箱底的空战武器，又受困于经费问题无法大规模装备，但在拖延中对飞机的性能并没有进行实质性改进。到现在，恐怕等不到其量产服役，就已经被其他国家的五代机超越了。SU57与其说是一款全新的五代机，不如说是在SU27系列的基础上进行的深度改进——“被拍扁了的SU27”的名头算是坐实了。学歼20打开弹舱，却收获了完全不一样的结局，这恐怕是令俄国人没有想到的。（作者署名：军事家）
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Su 57 was stimulated by China's 歼20 to show the opening of the magazine.
Su 57 was stimulated by China's 歼20 to show the opening of the magazine.
November 26, 2018 10:37 Sina Military
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The opening of the bomb bay at the 歼20 air show reflects the confidence of the Chinese Air Force and reflects the tremendous progress of the military aviation industry represented by the five-generation fighter jets in China. It has also attracted the attention of all parties. The F22 and F35 fighters in the United States also exhibited the opening of the bomb bay. In fact, as the standard of the five-generation fighter, the bomb bay is its most attractive place. Different from the four-generation machine with wings and sub-tank under the wing and the belly of the machine, the fifth-generation machine must embed the weapon inside the body in order to pursue the stealth shape. The design of the bomb cabin is directly related to the combat performance of the fifth-generation aircraft, and even the design of the door corners and internal hooks is very particular.
歼20Open the magazine 歼20 to open the bomb compartment
After the air show, the Russian side may be stimulated by the 歼20 show, and began to intensively disclose the pictures and video materials of its SU57 fifth-generation machine. The first is that it discloses an image showing a number of SU57 recent photos arranged on the airport apron - these aircraft are painted with the Russian Air Force logo of the camouflage and the five-pointed star. As the only five-generation machine that does not open the bullet-box for a clear display (the blurry long-range bombing photo is not on display), SU57 and Russia seem to feel the pressure: whether it can't be opened or not open, questioning The sound is even rampant inside the Russian side.
SU57SU57
This light is a test that has been tested for 10 years. The fifth-generation machine can be said to be a long-awaited call. It is not said that the Russian military aviation industry can be promoted abroad. At least it should be given to oneself: SU-57 ( The previous project code was T50. So far, more than 300 billion rubles have been consumed from the project. The mass production time is delayed and requires an explanation.
SU57 internal cabin picture taken by Red Star TV station SU57 internal cabin picture taken by Red Star TV station
Less than 10 days after opening the bomb bay at the air show ,20, Russia learned how to look at the 歼20 and also opened the bomb bay of the SU57 for display. This is the first time the Russians have opened the show. Russian Red Star TV reported. In the photo, the SU57 is parked in the hangar. The interviewer and the lens have carefully photographed the door and internal structure. It is a zero distance, and the degree of openness is very rare in the Russian army. It seems that the Russian military is eager to show the combat power and details of the SU57 for publicity - after all, it is a product that is used for foreign trade.
SU27SU27
Unlike the 赞20's opening of the bomb bay, the SU57's open-air show attracted a question – with the opening of the bomb bay, many of its weaknesses were seen at a glance. The critics of the German newspaper Le Monde pointed out in the article on the 19th that the rear structure of the SU57 is almost the same as that of the SU27, and its unique interior of the bomb bay is very old, no matter the size or the internal rack can not meet the mount. The R37M's ability to intercept missiles remotely - and this capability is one of the advantages of the SU57 that Russia has always emphasized. Even the doors of the aircraft bombs were not specially treated. The article in Le Monde describes this: The technical level stayed 20 years ago. If you don't remind you of which bomber's bomb bay, it doesn't have the level of the fifth-generation machine.
F22F22
It can be considered that with this close-up display, the aura of the SU57 has almost disappeared. Russia has always regarded it as an air combat weapon at the bottom of the pressure box, and it has been trapped in financial problems and cannot be equipped on a large scale. However, the performance of the aircraft has not been substantially improved during the delay. Up to now, I am afraid that I will not be able to wait for the mass production service, and it has already been surpassed by the fifth generation machines of other countries. SU57 is not so much a brand new five-generation machine, but rather a deep improvement based on the SU27 series - the name of the "SU27 that has been flattened" is actually sitting down. Xueyu 20 opened the bomb bay, but it harvested a completely different ending, which is probably what the Russians did not think of. (Author's signature: military home)
苏57受中国歼20刺激展示开弹仓 德媒：技术落后20年
苏57受中国歼20刺激展示开弹仓 德媒：技术落后20年
2018年11月26日 10:37 新浪军事
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歼20航展打开弹舱的展示体现了中国空军的自信，体现了中国以五代战斗机为代表的军事航空工业的巨大进步，也引起了各方的关注。美国的F22、F35战斗机也进行过打开弹舱的展示。实际上，作为五代战斗机的标配，弹舱是其最吸引人的地方。与机翼、机腹下挂满弹药、副油箱的四代机不同，五代机为了追求隐身外形，必须把武器埋入机体内部。弹舱的设计直接关系着五代机的战斗性能，甚至连舱门边角、内部挂钩的设计都大有讲究。
航展后，俄罗斯方面可能受到了歼20展示的刺激，开始密集公开其SU57五代机的图片与影像资料。首先是其公开了一段影像，显示了在机场停机坪上排列的多架SU57近照——这些飞机都刷上了迷彩和五角星的俄空天军识别标志。作为唯一一种没有打开过弹舱进行清晰展示的五代机（模糊的远距离投弹照片算不上展示），SU57和俄方看上去是感到了压力：到底是不能打开还是不敢打开，质疑声甚至在俄方内部也甚嚣尘上。
这款光是试验都试验了10年的五代机可谓千呼万唤始出来，都不说向国外宣传俄罗斯军事航空工业尚可一战，起码也要给自己人一个交代吧：SU-57（之前项目代号为T50）从立项到目前为止，已经消耗了3000多亿卢布。其批量生产时间一拖再拖，需要一个解释。
在航展歼20打开弹舱不到10天后，俄罗斯学着歼20的样子，也打开了SU57的弹舱进行展示。这是俄国人目前的第一次开舱展示。俄罗斯红星电视台进行了报道。照片中，SU57停在机库内，采访者和镜头对其舱门和内部结构进行了细致拍摄，堪称零距离，公开程度在俄军中是十分少见的。看来，俄军急切地希望展现SU57的战斗力和细节，以进行宣传——毕竟是一款拿来外贸的产品。
与歼20打开弹舱引来的赞叹不同，SU57的开舱展示则引来了一片质疑——伴随着弹舱的打开，其存在的许多弱点被一眼看穿。德国《世界报》的评论家在19日的文章中指出，SU57的后部结构与SU27几乎一样，而其特有的弹舱内部布置十分老旧，无论是尺寸还是内部挂架都无法满足挂载R37M远程拦截导弹的能力——而这种能力是俄罗斯之前一直强调的SU57的优势之一。甚至连飞机弹舱的舱门也没有进行特殊处理。《世界报》的文章这样叙述：技术水平停留在20年前，如果不提示还以为是哪一款战斗轰炸机的弹舱，完全没有五代机的水准。
可以认为，伴随着这次近距离展示，SU57的光环已经快消褪殆尽了。俄罗斯一直将其看做压箱底的空战武器，又受困于经费问题无法大规模装备，但在拖延中对飞机的性能并没有进行实质性改进。到现在，恐怕等不到其量产服役，就已经被其他国家的五代机超越了。SU57与其说是一款全新的五代机，不如说是在SU27系列的基础上进行的深度改进——“被拍扁了的SU27”的名头算是坐实了。学歼20打开弹舱，却收获了完全不一样的结局，这恐怕是令俄国人没有想到的。（作者署名：军事家）
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Su 57 was stimulated by China's 歼20 to show the opening of the magazine.
Su 57 was stimulated by China's 歼20 to show the opening of the magazine.
November 26, 2018 10:37 Sina Military
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The opening of the bomb bay at the 歼20 air show reflects the confidence of the Chinese Air Force and reflects the tremendous progress of the military aviation industry represented by the five-generation fighter jets in China. It has also attracted the attention of all parties. The F22 and F35 fighters in the United States also exhibited the opening of the bomb bay. In fact, as the standard of the five-generation fighter, the bomb bay is its most attractive place. Different from the four-generation machine with wings and sub-tank under the wing and the belly of the machine, the fifth-generation machine must embed the weapon inside the body in order to pursue the stealth shape. The design of the bomb cabin is directly related to the combat performance of the fifth-generation aircraft, and even the design of the door corners and internal hooks is very particular.
歼20Open the magazine 歼20 to open the bomb compartment
After the air show, the Russian side may be stimulated by the 歼20 show, and began to intensively disclose the pictures and video materials of its SU57 fifth-generation machine. The first is that it discloses an image showing a number of SU57 recent photos arranged on the airport apron - these aircraft are painted with the Russian Air Force logo of the camouflage and the five-pointed star. As the only five-generation machine that does not open the bullet-box for a clear display (the blurry long-range bombing photo is not on display), SU57 and Russia seem to feel the pressure: whether it can't be opened or not open, questioning The sound is even rampant inside the Russian side.
SU57SU57
This light is a test that has been tested for 10 years. The fifth-generation machine can be said to be a long-awaited call. It is not said that the Russian military aviation industry can be promoted abroad. At least it should be given to oneself: SU-57 ( The previous project code was T50. So far, more than 300 billion rubles have been consumed from the project. The mass production time is delayed and requires an explanation.
SU57 internal cabin picture taken by Red Star TV station SU57 internal cabin picture taken by Red Star TV station
Less than 10 days after opening the bomb bay at the air show ,20, Russia learned how to look at the 歼20 and also opened the bomb bay of the SU57 for display. This is the first time the Russians have opened the show. Russian Red Star TV reported. In the photo, the SU57 is parked in the hangar. The interviewer and the lens have carefully photographed the door and internal structure. It is a zero distance, and the degree of openness is very rare in the Russian army. It seems that the Russian military is eager to show the combat power and details of the SU57 for publicity - after all, it is a product that is used for foreign trade.
SU27SU27
Unlike the 赞20's opening of the bomb bay, the SU57's open-air show attracted a question – with the opening of the bomb bay, many of its weaknesses were seen at a glance. The critics of the German newspaper Le Monde pointed out in the article on the 19th that the rear structure of the SU57 is almost the same as that of the SU27, and its unique interior of the bomb bay is very old, no matter the size or the internal rack can not meet the mount. The R37M's ability to intercept missiles remotely - and this capability is one of the advantages of the SU57 that Russia has always emphasized. Even the doors of the aircraft bombs were not specially treated. The article in Le Monde describes this: The technical level stayed 20 years ago. If you don't remind you of which bomber's bomb bay, it doesn't have the level of the fifth-generation machine.
F22F22
It can be considered that with this close-up display, the aura of the SU57 has almost disappeared. Russia has always regarded it as an air combat weapon at the bottom of the pressure box, and it has been trapped in financial problems and cannot be equipped on a large scale. However, the performance of the aircraft has not been substantially improved during the delay. Up to now, I am afraid that I will not be able to wait for the mass production service, and it has already been surpassed by the fifth generation machines of other countries. SU57 is not so much a brand new five-generation machine, but rather a deep improvement based on the SU27 series - the name of the "SU27 that has been flattened" is actually sitting down. Xueyu 20 opened the bomb bay, but it harvested a completely different ending, which is probably what the Russians did not think of. (Author's signature: military home)
