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GE 2015 --Vote swing because of new-citizen votes ! All must read !

eatshitndie

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This proves beyond all doubts the success of the FAP's "National Education" programme in schools.

on the conservative side there are at least 200,000 new shitizens. if 80% of them vote for pap, there's easily a big swing of about 7% on top of the previous 60%, plus an additional 2% of first time young sinkie voters. that was how i came up with 69%.
 

Gigo88

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If anyone still has doubts that new citizens are responsible for the significant swing to PAP, go and read the article on our Shitty Times today.

It mentioned 8 reasons for the swing to PAP. New citizens is not one of them, according to Shitty Times.

There is a Chinese saying 此地无银三百两.

Enuff said.
 

Boliao

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Was having dinner with a statistician friend of mine last night and the topic came up. He was exceptionally calm and said that the results were within his expectation. In fact, he expected Aljunied to go to PAP as well. He said that Singaporeans lost their chance in 2011 and since that election, he expects PAP to win the following 2-3 elections. Our next chance will be 10-15 years from now when new citizens get fully assimilated.

He said that Singapore has been adding ~8000 before 2006 and for the last since then, that number averages ~20,000 a year - that's approximately 200,000 new citizens or at least 10% of the swing vote. GE2011 was oppositions last chance. He said LKY is right, Singaporeans are daft and deserves the government they elected. Now, PAP will be embolden to push forward with 6.9m as (1) they will take GE2015 as a mandate and (2) they know nothing can stop them now.
 

tonychat

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If anyone still has doubts that new citizens are responsible for the significant swing to PAP, go and read the article on our Shitty Times today.

It mentioned 8 reasons for the swing to PAP. New citizens is not one of them, according to Shitty Times.

There is a Chinese saying 此地无银三百两.

Enuff said.

wait a minute..READ Strait Times????? and trust it??? you must be out of your fucking sinkie mind.

You think they dare to admit that??? fuck your sinkie brain.
 

kopiOuncle

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Was having dinner with a statistician friend of mine last night and the topic came up. He was exceptionally calm and said that the results were within his expectation. In fact, he expected Aljunied to go to PAP as well. He said that Singaporeans lost their chance in 2011 and since that election, he expects PAP to win the following 2-3 elections. Our next chance will be 10-15 years from now when new citizens get fully assimilated.

He said that Singapore has been adding ~8000 before 2006 and for the last since then, that number averages ~20,000 a year - that's approximately 200,000 new citizens or at least 10% of the swing vote. GE2011 was oppositions last chance. He said LKY is right, Singaporeans are daft and deserves the government they elected. Now, PAP will be embolden to push forward with 6.9m as (1) they will take GE2015 as a mandate and (2) they know nothing can stop them now.

PAP accepts the mandate with humility.

But they will not be so foolish to push through unpopular policies. That will certainly backfire. Singaporeans are not stupid. They are not daft and dumb.
If you push them to the wall, they will react. And the reaction can be unexpected.

So do it gingerly, step by step.

A mandate is given by the people and it should be accepted with great respect and humility.

The responsibility is grave and the burden is heavy.
 

tonychat

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Was having dinner with a statistician friend of mine last night and the topic came up. He was exceptionally calm and said that the results were within his expectation. In fact, he expected Aljunied to go to PAP as well. He said that Singaporeans lost their chance in 2011 and since that election, he expects PAP to win the following 2-3 elections. Our next chance will be 10-15 years from now when new citizens get fully assimilated.

He said that Singapore has been adding ~8000 before 2006 and for the last since then, that number averages ~20,000 a year - that's approximately 200,000 new citizens or at least 10% of the swing vote. GE2011 was oppositions last chance. He said LKY is right, Singaporeans are daft and deserves the government they elected. Now, PAP will be embolden to push forward with 6.9m as (1) they will take GE2015 as a mandate and (2) they know nothing can stop them now.

He didn't realise that LKY is the one who cause the daftness of sinkies in the first place.. harsh rules, indoctrination in school and controlling of the media..

He is the fucking one who created the daftness of sinkies and now act like he has nothing to do with it and sit on the knowing all chair and say sinkies are daft and they need to get their act together.. What a fucking hypocrite!!!!

LKY's lust for power is the thing that causes the daftness of sinkies.
 
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Seee3

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Was having dinner with a statistician friend of mine last night and the topic came up. He was exceptionally calm and said that the results were within his expectation. In fact, he expected Aljunied to go to PAP as well. He said that Singaporeans lost their chance in 2011 and since that election, he expects PAP to win the following 2-3 elections. Our next chance will be 10-15 years from now when new citizens get fully assimilated.

He said that Singapore has been adding ~8000 before 2006 and for the last since then, that number averages ~20,000 a year - that's approximately 200,000 new citizens or at least 10% of the swing vote. GE2011 was oppositions last chance. He said LKY is right, Singaporeans are daft and deserves the government they elected. Now, PAP will be embolden to push forward with 6.9m as (1) they will take GE2015 as a mandate and (2) they know nothing can stop them now.
Have to disagree on the "last chance" part. If wp is sincere and genuine and starts working like Tpl, even new citizens will vote them. However, if they continue to behaviour like pap team B in the past, then we have to wait for the system to collapse on its own weight or hopefully the rise of a truthful opposition before it happened.
 

sirus

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Netizens: We know why PAP won big
September 12th, 2015

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Singaporean netizens think they know the reason why PAP won big in GE2015: the addition of massive numbers of new citizens to the electorate since GE2011, coupled with expert gerrymandering.

A quick scan through the 300+ comments in this TRE editorial – ‘GE2015 results (final updates)‘ – and The Online Citizen’s Facebook page shows that many netizens subscribe to this theory.

There is ample evidence to back it up. Take this webpage from none other than the Prime Minister’s Office for example [Link].

As early as July 2012, a year after GE2011, in welcoming new citizens that saw comfortable victories in their constituencies late last night/early this morning, PM Lee Hsien Loong gave the following speech [Link]:

Singaporean netizens think they know the reason why PAP won big in GE2015: the addition of massive numbers of new citizens to the electorate since GE2011, coupled with expert gerrymandering.

A quick scan through the 300+ comments in this TRE editorial – ‘GE2015 results (final updates)‘ – and The Online Citizen’s Facebook page shows that many netizens subscribe to this theory.

There is ample evidence to back it up. Take this webpage from none other than the Prime Minister’s Office for example [Link].

As early as July 2012, a year after GE2011, in welcoming new citizens that saw comfortable victories in their constituencies late last night/early this morning, PM Lee Hsien Loong gave the following speech [Link]:

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In the above photo, DPM Teo handed the “certificate of citizenship” to Chong Kuin Sheong, 37, and his family on 2 August 2015. It is not known if Mr and Mrs Chong, who are clearly of voting age, were “in time” to vote in the GE that took place barely a month later.

In any case, it is a given that new citizens will vote for the party that gave them citizenship.

Also, new citizens that hail from, as PM Lee puts it, “many different parts of the world” will not give two hoots about Singapore’s culture, from a historical perspective. In other words, they will not care that Singapore has or used to have 4 main races and 4 official languages representing each of the 4 races.

Pinoys will continue to speak Tagalog and Myanma will still converse in Burmese, while not a few new citizens from India speak Hindi. New citizens from China – of which there are many – speak putonghua or Mandarin, one of Singapore’s 4 official languages, more by happy co-incidence than design. They could not care less that Singapore has 4 official languages and probably secretly wished their own native tongue was one of them.

New citizens – who were not born nor grew up in Singapore – are unfamiliar with names such as JBJ, Tang Liang Hong, Francis Seow and Dr Lee Siew-Choh. Even “current” politicians like Chiam See Tong, Dr Chee Soon Juan, Low Thia Khiang, Sylvia Lim, Kenneth Jeyaretnam and Tan Jee Say pose a mystery to them.

All these new citizens know is to vote for the party that kindly gave them the nice certificate, the baby-pink IC, and the red passport that is recognised throughout the world.

Many GE2015 phenomena make complete sense

A number of things in GE2015 now make perfect sense in the light of this theory.

For example, it is now easy to understand why the PAP logo and PM Lee’s grinning face, especially, were plastered all over the island this election. It was to remind new citizens who it was who granted them Singapore citizenship, and to whom the favour ought to be repaid.

PAP’s campaign slogan – “With you, for you, for Singapore” – also makes perfect sense. It is, firstly, telling new citizens PAP was “with you” on your journey towards Singapore citizenship; secondly, that Singapore was built “for you”; and thirdly, that now, having obtained Singapore citizenship, you must vote PAP to do what is right “for Singapore”.

Seen in this light, PM Lee asking for a “strong mandate” makes complete sense too. He asked for a “strong mandate” not because he was desirous of one, but because he knew he would get it.

The periodic reports PM Lee got about how many new citizens were added to which precinct or constituency gave him the confidence that he would receive a “strong mandate” from the people. The only question was: how strong?

Do you agree with the theory that loyal new citizens caused a 10% swing in votes from the Opposition to PAP, despite what many native Singaporeans perceived as the incumbents’ poor governance since GE2011?

What do you think?

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http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/09/12/netizens-we-know-why-pap-won-big/
 

dredd

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They are playing a dangerous game with these foreigners. Sooner than later, one with the means will harbour ambitions to take over the gahment. Just watch...
 

wendychan

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They are playing a dangerous game with these foreigners. Sooner than later, one with the means will harbour ambitions to take over the gahment. Just watch...
already got one who ran in elections... unless paid to run
 

dredd

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already got one who ran in elections... unless paid to run

The start of things to come. And if you can see how they run elections in their home country, you will know that they have no qualms using violence to get power. If they ever form a political party, you can be sure it will not be like WP, SDP, SDA, PPP... who quietly go away into the night when defeated.
 

eErotica69

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This is what happens when sinkies are too ball-less to protest.

Spot on jiu hu kia.

So you walk the talk? Go protest outside Parliament now. What are you waiting for? You ball-less?

Did you vote against PAP in the Singapore General Election? No? Then fuck you. Ball-less

 

eErotica69

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on the conservative side there are at least 200,000 new shitizens. if 80% of them vote for pap, there's easily a big swing of about 7% on top of the previous 60%, plus an additional 2% of first time young sinkie voters. that was how i came up with 69%.

Is 140K and not 200K.
 

eatshitndie

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Is 140K and not 200K.

140k is based on 2013 numbers. the trend is about 20k new shitizens per year since 2008. if you add the 2014 and 2015 numbers, it should be around 180k, but i believe there's a slight surge beyond the average of 20k to 25k for 2014 and 2015. i used a very conservative back off of 80% from 200k, which came out to 160k. 160k contribute 6.7% to 2.4m. now you know how my mind works. :wink:
 
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eErotica69

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140k is based on 2013 numbers. the trend is about 20k new shitizens per year since 2008. if you add the 2014 and 2015 numbers, it should be around 180k. i used a very conservative back off of 80% from 200k, which came out to 160k. 160k contribute 6.7% to 2.4m votes.

Nope is not. Please look at my calculation. Is fact, not my opinion.
 

eatshitndie

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Nope is not. Please look at my calculation. Is fact, not my opinion.

i'm referring to "naturalized" shitizens who used to be foreigners, not including those who are born in sg to sinkie parents. 2014 and 2015 numbers of new shitizens naturalized to become sinkie citizens are not published yet. how to claim yours are based on facts? based on facts, there are at least 180k new shitizens who are already of adult voting age who got their citizenship certs from years 2008 to 2015. 2008 to 2013 numbers are published and available. present your facts, don't just shoot from the hip. and what was your prediction over 6 months ago? that spoke volumes. :p
 
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