From SG citizen to Canadian citizen and then become SG permanent resident

[lesMISERABLES]

In The Straits Times of 1 Feb 2013, there is an article about a success story of a President's cum Colombo Plan scholar. Of particular interest is the following line:

Midway, he took up Canadian citizenship after it became too onerous to renew his exit permit yearly.

N.B.: The article is reproduced in full at http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/articles/d/what-it-takes-to-succeed-globally

What our state-controlled media did not report is that LEEgime has given Hsieh Tsun-Yan permanent residency. In effect, Hsieh gave up his SG citizenship for a Canadian one, then returned to Sinkieland as a permanent resident.

 

[laksaboy]

How nice. I wish I could upgrade my pink NRIC to a blue one.

 

[chupacabra]

What he is doing in peesai he cannot do in Canada. Canadians already have their own ang mor car salesmen. No ang mor Canadian wanna buy crap from a sinkee car salesmen.

 

[Travellor]

What he is doing in peesai he cannot do in Canada. Canadians already have their own ang mor car salesmen. No ang mor Canadian wanna buy crap from a sinkee chink car salesmen.

yeah they probably think any car that he's trying to sell them has a car whose cabin that smells of chow mein and general kungpoh chicken...KNNBCCB

 

[chupacabra]

Yup alot of sinkees think that they are super ATAS just because they come back from ang mor cuntry. Try to talk slang and shit. Met a few of them. Only in peesai whereby the Pappies let in Conmen to rob sinkees. Other cuntries dont give a damn where you are from, their citizens comes first. So be humble when you are out of peesai because you dont wanna return and be con all your life in peesai, only when buying big ticket items in ang mor land than be careful. other than that everything is transparent. In peesai you will be con by just using water to flush sai down the toilet.

 

[Agoraphobic]

What he is doing in peesai he cannot do in Canada. Canadians already have their own ang mor car salesmen. No ang mor Canadian wanna buy crap from a sinkee car salesmen.

In the big cities, the population mix is more varied. The last time I entered a car dealership in Toronto, they got the HK bred salesman after me. His opening lines were Cantonese, and carried on in Cantonese. I replied that I do not speak Canto, thank goodness he spoke English to me after that and closed the deal on the Honda I was interested in. If only they spoke English in the Dim Sum restaurant.

Cheers!

 

[kingrant]

What makes you think he has given up his Singapore citizenship just becos he has obtained a canadian passport?

It is not stated in the report so I would believe that he is still keeping his pink IC. Sinkie govt has to play smart - if he pushes him far enough, I dont think he will have second thoughts to throw his pink ic in, and the egg will be on the Papees govt.

He has already served his NS (the officer cadet part), so I dont know why he has to renew his exit permit yearly. He can apply for disruption if he is working overseas, esp when he has finished NS.

With guys like that, you dont ask people trick or treat questions.

In The Straits Times of 1 Feb 2013, there is an article about a success story of a President's cum Colombo Plan scholar. Of particular interest is the following line:

Midway, he took up Canadian citizenship after it became too onerous to renew his exit permit yearly.

N.B.: The article is reproduced in full at http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/articles/d/what-it-takes-to-succeed-globally

What our state-controlled media did not report is that LEEgime has given Hsieh Tsun-Yan permanent residency. In effect, Hsieh gave up his SG citizenship for a Canadian one, then returned to Sinkieland as a permanent resident.

 

[johnny333]

How nice. I wish I could upgrade my pink NRIC to a blue one.

You may think it is "nice" but many ex-Sporeans don't think so. I know many who wouldn't want to return.

Had a friend who emigrated to Canada. When the Canadian company she was working for decided to open a Spore branch, the boss asked "her" to run the operation because she was good at her job AND she had experience in Spore.

She reluctantly came back to Spore because she knew all about the hassle of working in Spore. Believe me it can be nicer working over there than it is to work in Spore.

 

[eatshitndie]

What makes you think he has given up his Singapore citizenship just becos he has obtained a canadian passport?

why does he apply for an sg pr if he has not given up his sg citizenship? it doesn't make sense.

 

[RedLeaf]

why does he apply for an sg pr if he has not given up his sg citizenship? it doesn't make sense.

That is because a PR status is worth 3 times more than a lousy citizenship.

 

[Charlie99]

In The Straits Times of 1 Feb 2013, there is an article about a success story of a President's cum Colombo Plan scholar. Of particular interest is the following line:

Midway, he took up Canadian citizenship after it became too onerous to renew his exit permit yearly.

N.B.: The article is reproduced in full at http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/articles/d/what-it-takes-to-succeed-globally

What our state-controlled media did not report is that LEEgime has given Hsieh Tsun-Yan permanent residency. In effect, Hsieh gave up his SG citizenship for a Canadian one, then returned to Sinkieland as a permanent resident.

A male Singapore citizen who has completed full time NS, has to apply for an exit permit every year, if he desires to continue working overseas, until he is no longer liable for reservist (at age 50 for officers).

Although it is renewable on an annual basis, he could have written to MINDEF and asked for an extension or renewal of the exit permit every two years.

 

[eatshitndie]

That is because a PR status is worth 3 times more than a lousy citizenship.

i know it's funny and true at the same time.

the chap wouldn't possibly get his pr if the ica were to process his application, access the database, and go "oops! but you are oredy a sinkie with a pink ic! how ar?"

 

[Charlie99]

i know it's funny and true at the same time.

the chap wouldn't possibly get his pr if the ica were to process his application, access the database, and go "oops! but you are oredy a sinkie with a pink ic! how ar?"

I believe that if the individual did not renounce and/or did not return his Singaporean IC, the Singapore Immigration authorities will probably suggest to him to remounce his Canadian citizenship, and accordingly, there is no need for him to apply for PR, as he is a Singapore citizen.

About two decades ago, I heard from a friend who had that experience.

 

[tanwahtiu]

take this opportunity to exchange the White Paper for dual citizenship status.

Singapore is like a small basin and PAPigs want to top it up to 6.9m liters of water. Once it is full it will over flow and it will fail.

At the bottom of the basin needs to drill a hole and put a plug, this plug is pulled out to release some water out. This plug is the dual citizenship status.

This plug is a safety valve to let the citizens leave Singapore and acts as a control system and the basin will never be full and overflow but kept at 6.9M people in Singapore.

New citizens come with dual citizenhship status from their own countries, so you demand to have the same rights to leave Singapore to go to another country with dual citizenship status.

You have a reason ot revolt if PAPigs tires to fill up the small basin without a safety valve to release the citizen frustrations and become a tipping point for a revolution.

Bring this idea to WP to present to parliament and demand for dual citizenship status for native Singaporeans to leave Singapore and keep the small basin at 6.9M, no more no less.

Your dual citizenship status allow you to vote in Singapore, get back your CPF money and no NSF duty.

How nice. I wish I could upgrade my pink NRIC to a blue one.

 

[kingrant]

why does he apply for an sg pr if he has not given up his sg citizenship? it doesn't make sense.

Bro,
There is no mention of him applying for sg pr. Only exit permit. Which means he is still pink ic.

 

[kingrant]

A male Singapore citizen who has completed full time NS, has to apply for an exit permit every year, if he desires to continue working overseas, until he is no longer liable for reservist (at age 50 for officers).

Although it is renewable on an annual basis, he could have written to MINDEF and asked for an extension or renewal of the exit permit every two years.

I used to process all kinds of reservists' applications for deferment, disruptiom etc and unless the rules have been tightened (which i doubt) a NSR can apply to be disrupted if he csn prove that he is living and working overseas. In my work i put up recommendations to accept or reject to CMPB which was then the unit.

 

[kingrant]

I believe that if the individual did not renounce and/or did not return his Singaporean IC, the Singapore Immigration authorities will probably suggest to him to remounce his Canadian citizenship, and accordingly, there is no need for him to apply for PR, as he is a Singapore citizen.

About two decades ago, I heard from a friend who had that experience.

The operative word must be "suggest", so he can just thank him for his suggestion and leave without any encumberances.

 

[kingrant]

You see, CMPB wont suggest you disrupt if you only apply for EP. You have to make a case so that dusruption becomes only way out. MINDEF is not out to impede the NSR's civil life unnecessarily esp when you have completed full time NS.

 

[Charlie99]

You see, CMPB wont suggest you disrupt if you only apply for EP. You have to make a case so that dusruption becomes only way out. MINDEF is not out to impede the NSR's civil life unnecessarily esp when you have completed full time NS.

I applied for and received an exit permit from my mid 20's to age 50, and therefore, read with interest regarding that gentleman finding it cumbersome or challenging to continue to apply for an exit permit when he was in Canada.

Even if he lived in Calgary (and may be later in Toronto), it is not any more difficult than me (Toronto).

 

[Leongsam]

In effect, Hsieh gave up his SG citizenship for a Canadian one, then returned to Sinkieland as a permanent resident.

Nothing wrong with that. It's an astute move.