Chitchat former sia airbus a380's to be converted to private luxury jets

[Semaj2357]

So where is my seat gentleman?

for gentlemen, there's the gents - but must ikatkonek dan buah2 tightly as the pneumatic isap is strong and can go out the belly of the plane. they do provide mini-parachutes however. for ladies, they provide mini-wing pads for the nonok - a great way to fly

 

[cocobobo]

the days of high capacity double decker aircraft is almost over as airlines are switching to fuel efficient long haul flights for direct routes which are now more popular than the hub and spoke model. luckily they lease a380 and at the end of the term do not have to renew. they have decided to purchase the boeing dreamliner.

i disagree. its just a matter of time before a380 is optimised and become fuel efficient and you have massive long haul to popular destinations.

 

[eatshitndie]

i disagree. its just a matter of time before a380 is optimised and become fuel efficient and you have massive long haul to popular destinations.

they had to do major rework on their wing ribs as there were cracks on the aluminum alloy, and while taking planes out of service considered densifying seats in main cabin, but these hardly constituted real optimization efforts. airbus has been reluctant to optimize with newer engines and configurations since 2015. here's a snippet from the aviationweek link provided by sam.

"Optimizing the existing aircraft is also Airbus’s way to buy time in the broader discussion about whether or not it should launch the A380neo, using latest-technology engines. That move has been heavily promoted by Tim Clark, President of Emirates Airline, but it has not found significant backing elsewhere. Clark has made clear that the airline would buy at least another 100 aircraft if Airbus developed the new version, although the manufacturer has more recently tried to push the decision further to the right. Airbus Group CEO Tom Enders effectively ruled out a launch before the end of 2015 earlier this year, diminishing Clark’s hopes that he could still convince Airbus of going ahead."

moreover, airlines will continue to add direct long haul routes that do not need to carry 600+ passengers per flight.

 

[Papsmearer]

they had to do major rework on their wing ribs as there were cracks on the aluminum alloy, and while taking planes out of service considered densifying seats in main cabin, but these hardly constituted real optimization efforts. airbus has been reluctant to optimize with newer engines and configurations since 2015. here's a snippet from the aviationweek link provided by sam.

"Optimizing the existing aircraft is also Airbus’s way to buy time in the broader discussion about whether or not it should launch the A380neo, using latest-technology engines. That move has been heavily promoted by Tim Clark, President of Emirates Airline, but it has not found significant backing elsewhere. Clark has made clear that the airline would buy at least another 100 aircraft if Airbus developed the new version, although the manufacturer has more recently tried to push the decision further to the right. Airbus Group CEO Tom Enders effectively ruled out a launch before the end of 2015 earlier this year, diminishing Clark’s hopes that he could still convince Airbus of going ahead."

moreover, airlines will continue to add direct long haul routes that do not need to carry 600+ passengers per flight.

Airbus is not going to "optimize" the A380, ever. Re-engining a 10 year old plane is unheard off. That alone will not solve the problem. They need to shave more weight off it, use more composites and maybe redesign the wing. Its too much cost. Per passenger mile, the 777 is at least 10% cheaper to operate and the 787 beats it hands down. Might as well use it for cargo. Maybe someone will do a freighter conversion on it. Hear that ST Aerospace? I wonder why SQ wouldn't use it on their SIN-KUL runs. High volume legs, they would easily fill all the seats.

 

[eatshitndie]

Airbus is not going to "optimize" the A380, ever. Re-engining a 10 year old plane is unheard off. That alone will not solve the problem. They need to shave more weight off it, use more composites and maybe redesign the wing. Its too much cost. Per passenger mile, the 777 is at least 10% cheaper to operate and the 787 beats it hands down. Might as well use it for cargo. Maybe someone will do a freighter conversion on it. Hear that ST Aerospace? I wonder why SQ wouldn't use it on their SIN-KUL runs. High volume legs, they would easily fill all the seats.

moreover, with more demand for direct flights between both minor and smaller cities (not just the top 69), there are routes that are shorter haul but dense. this is where the wide-bodied 777, 787, and a350 becum highly optimized and versatile. there's also interest in the new 737 max for multiple short haul runs to serve popular direct routes. sq is stuck thinking inside the atas box, only force to adapt when they see other airlines trail-blazing new ideas: premium economy seats, direct flights, budget segment, etc. freight on a380 will be such a waste unless they're designer drugs for celebs, organs for mugabe, or iphones for sinkies. they're better off as luxury orgy party planes for the rich, bored and depressed.

 

[cocobobo]

they had to do major rework on their wing ribs as there were cracks on the aluminum alloy, and while taking planes out of service considered densifying seats in main cabin, but these hardly constituted real optimization efforts. airbus has been reluctant to optimize with newer engines and configurations since 2015. here's a snippet from the aviationweek link provided by sam.

"Optimizing the existing aircraft is also Airbus’s way to buy time in the broader discussion about whether or not it should launch the A380neo, using latest-technology engines. That move has been heavily promoted by Tim Clark, President of Emirates Airline, but it has not found significant backing elsewhere. Clark has made clear that the airline would buy at least another 100 aircraft if Airbus developed the new version, although the manufacturer has more recently tried to push the decision further to the right. Airbus Group CEO Tom Enders effectively ruled out a launch before the end of 2015 earlier this year, diminishing Clark’s hopes that he could still convince Airbus of going ahead."

moreover, airlines will continue to add direct long haul routes that do not need to carry 600+ passengers per flight.

What is the furthest long haul in flight these days? Sydney to New York? That's 10,000 miles. Current a380 can cover 8,500 miles.
it does not seem like a major overhaul.

 

[eatshitndie]

What is the furthest long haul in flight these days? Sydney to New York? That's 10,000 miles. Current a380 can cover 8,500 miles.
it does not seem like a major overhaul.

it will require a new aircraft. the a350-800 has a range of 15400 km with max payload of 375 passengers while the a350-900 has a range of 15000 km with max payload of 420 passengers. newer (smaller) aircraft in the design stage will likely surpass 16000 km and aim for 20000 km. it's no longer a matter of whether but a matter of when. anyway, whoever flies from sydney to nyc must be yearning for no less than 18 hours. any flight going non-stop for over 18 hours will likely need to sedate their passengers by pushing more alcoholic drinks. :p

actually the older 777-200lr already tops the list with range of 17395 km while the a340-500 is 2nd on the list at 16669 km. the 787 dreamliner cums in 3rd at 15750 km depending on load and passenger configuration.

eventually, extra-stratospheric flight in inner space or very low earth orbit will happen to reduce flying time. those will be low capacity flights only for the very wealthy.

 

[Papsmearer]

it will require a new aircraft. the a350-800 has a range of 15400 km with max payload of 375 passengers while the a350-900 has a range of 15000 km with max payload of 420 passengers. newer (smaller) aircraft in the design stage will likely surpass 16000 km and aim for 20000 km. it's no longer a matter of whether but a matter of when. anyway, whoever flies from sydney to nyc must be yearning for no less than 18 hours. any flight going non-stop for over 18 hours will likely need to sedate their passengers by pushing more alcoholic drinks. :p

actually the older 777-200lr already tops the list with range of 17395 km while the a340-500 is 2nd on the list at 16669 km. the 787 dreamliner cums in 3rd at 15750 km depending on load and passenger configuration.

eventually, extra-stratospheric flight in inner space or very low earth orbit will happen to reduce flying time. those will be low capacity flights only for the very wealthy.

the airlines are already prepping for these very long haul flights. A lot of them already have AED as standard equipment on board to deal with heart attacks. But the issue is still DVT.

 

[maxxi]

All those years ago how come the decision makers cannot realize A380 never a good idea?. boast "1st to Fly".It's not ression proof aircraft. even in good times how to fill 400 seats?.

 

[Papsmearer]

All those years ago how come the decision makers cannot realize A380 never a good idea?. boast "1st to Fly".It's not ression proof aircraft. even in good times how to fill 400 seats?.

SQ has made several mistakes recently. Got stuck with their A340s, one of the most uneconomical 4 engines to operate, next to the Boeing 747. These aircraft were purchased and not leased, if i recall. Ended trying to use them in a business class configuration for Newark - SIN. That was a failure. In certain markets, filling 400 seats is not a problem. GZ to Beijing or Shanghai will easily fill up 400 seats. Some airlines in china are flying this route with 380 pax A340s. They can easily use a A380 and fill it up.

 

[frenchbriefs]

8500km is more than enough to get to australia,what the hell more do they want?turn it into a long range bomber that can reach moscow?in that case they should go propeller instead.i recommend they repurpose all a380s flights to go to australia,and slash prices to $200 a seat during peak season and $99 during off peak.$200 per seat is of course not sufficient to cover the cost and expenses of the flight,i recommend the bottom decks of each a380 to be converted to a flying casino,complete with gondolas and vegas Bacchanal buffet and free flow of alcohol.each slot machine on board will have higher monetary value than any possible airline seat imaginable,Tiong bahru FC makes 37 million a year operating a pokie joint,i expect the profit margin of every A380 to surpass that,SG pools makes 9 billion in revenues and more than 2 billion profit a year,SIA's quarterly profit will rise by hundreds of millions.
All air stewards and stewardesses will double as croupiers and cocktail waitresses.they will cosplay as Brad Pitt,matt damon,don cheadle,bernie mac and al pacino and at the end of each flight,they will tear off their uniforms and strode off the planes in swat uniforms carrying bags marked X with all the passenger's monies.

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[frenchbriefs]

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[eatshitndie]

united going after lucrative lax-sin route. longest direct flight cumming. 18 hours, 8700 miles. with dreamliner.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...ntend-title-worlds-longest/102379320/?ref=yfp

 

[cocobobo]

united going after lucrative lax-sin route. longest direct flight cumming. 18 hours, 8700 miles. with dreamliner.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...ntend-title-worlds-longest/102379320/?ref=yfp

airbus should target these markets. 8700km is doable plus all that space which can be converted into activity areas so people dont die in their seats. Thats one route crying out for a 380.

 

[eatshitndie]

airbus should target these markets. 8700km is doable plus all that space which can be converted into activity areas so people dont die in their seats. Thats one route crying out for a 380.

8700 miles. do you need reading glasses?