Serious Fake Oppo WP tables white wash train defect questions for Parliament

[JohnTan]

WP MPs could adopt questions posted by our forums to ask the Transport Minister.

And the WP MPs should ask more questions on other platforms beside the fake parliament ...questions that the Speaker of Parliament won't allow to be asked as the ministers are so coddled and incapable to think on their feet.

Are we paying WP candidates $15k a month to come plagiarize their political speeches from netizens?

Some of us still view pritam singh with disdain for his laziness.

 

[winnipegjets]

Are we paying WP candidates $15k a month to come plagiarize their political speeches from netizens?

Some of us still view pritam singh with disdain for his laziness.

We are the research arm of the opposition. We don't mind them being our mouth piece and do our bidding.

PAP MPs are dogs ...they only listen to their master, the Lee. They don't represent the interests of sinkees. Now, they are definitely a waste of our money! Get it, dog?

 

[ginfreely]

Why can't WP raise questions on the non qualified Myanmar doctors at the same time? This is equally important safety issue.

 

[winnipegjets]

Other opposition parties have some track record of running the country. People vote for those opposition based on the track record of the party they represent.

Opposition parties could govern because elections over there are fair and all parties have a shot on gaining power if they run their campaign well enough.
In sinkapore, elections are a farce. How can election be fair when the PM runs the Elections Department? Only idiots like you that the PM will give up power when he controls the outcome.

In Singapore, none of the opposition parties have a track record of running the country. It would be like asking a kid to drive a car.

You dunno how the opposition would do but at this point, anyone is better than the PAP, even Goh Meng Seng.

Unless PAP is really terrible, sinkies would prefer to vote in a mediocre PAP candidate over a good opposition candidate.

PAP MPs are elected not because they won but because the PAP rigged the election. That's why you have a bimbo like Tin Pei Lin in office. And look at the bunch of ministers ...they are all failures in the private sector who opt for politics because life is cushy ...earning more than $2 million annual doing little and then enjoy a huge pension after they retire. Some like Holy Goh never retires.

Sinkies are also aware that unless they vote out the PAP government, any minority opposition ward is likely to receive less funds, and its MP would be totally cut off from government grassroots support and various government institutions.

Then the Opposition needs to educate sinkees that getting rid of the PAP is necessary for a better future.

Every opposition politician should own a precinct and lead sinkees to topple the PAP.

 

[Papsmearer]

Other opposition parties have some track record of running the country. People vote for those opposition based on the track record of the party they represent.

In Singapore, none of the opposition parties have a track record of running the country. It would be like asking a kid to drive a car.

Unless PAP is really terrible, sinkies would prefer to vote in a mediocre PAP candidate over a good opposition candidate.

Sinkies are also aware that unless they vote out the PAP government, any minority opposition ward is likely to receive less funds, and its MP would be totally cut off from government grassroots support and various government institutions.

This is just the pathetic excuse that the PAP uses to fool the voters. The country runs regardless of who is in power. That is why you have the civil service. The schools, police, airport, etc continue to operate because they are paid and run by the government of singapore. And not the PAP. As to lack of track record..... that means nothing. Has Obama ever run a country before? What is his track record to run the most powerful country on earth? What about Aquino's widow? What was her track record? Did Chen Siu Bian have any track record when he defeated the KMT in Taiwan, and ended the KMT domination there?

As I have mentioned in other threads, sinkies are too lazy to do the homework and research the information before they vote.

 

[Papsmearer]

Are we paying WP candidates $15k a month to come plagiarize their political speeches from netizens?

Some of us still view pritam singh with disdain for his laziness.

If they want to use any of my stuff, they are welcomed to do it. I will gladly sign a copyright release.

 

[Papsmearer]

. Some like Holy Goh never retires.



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Non of these fucks ever plan to retire. Look at Old Fart, Dhanabalan, Tony Tan, etc. These fuckers should have hanged it up long ago. Now you can expect Gay Loong and the current crop to do the same.

 

[zeebjii]

Why can't WP raise questions on the non qualified Myanmar doctors at the same time? This is equally important safety issue.

You can rest assured that they won't. I have long given up hope on them. Even if they do, it will go something like this, in typical WP 'hard-hitting' style:

"Dear minister, why it took so long to find out he's a fake doctor?"

"Well, it's an honest mistake."

"Thank you minister for the clarification. Appreciate it. Really."

 

[ginfreely]

You can rest assured that they won't. I have long given up hope on them. Even if they do, it will go something like this, in typical WP 'hard-hitting' style:

"Dear minister, why it took so long to find out he's a fake doctor?"

"Well, it's an honest mistake."

"Thank you minister for the clarification. Appreciate it. Really."

Hahahah looks like the case unfortunately....WP please improve leh although I will still vote for you but many others won't....

 

[zeebjii]

Hahahah looks like the case unfortunately....WP please improve leh although I will still vote for you but many others won't....

I am with you, will still vote for them vs PAP. But it's not a vote of confidence in them. I'll vote for anyone (or anything) vs PAP.

Nothing to hide here:

1997 Cheng San voted WP.
2006 AMK voted WP.
2011 AMK voted RP.
2015 AMK voted RP.

Hardcore OPPO and proud of it!

 

[ginfreely]

I am with you, will still vote for them vs PAP. But it's not a vote of confidence in them. I'll vote for anyone (or anything) vs PAP.

Nothing to hide here:

1997 Cheng San voted WP.
2006 AMK voted WP.
2011 AMK voted RP.
2015 AMK voted RP.

Hardcore OPPO and proud of it!

That's good! Too bad we are the minority who will vote for anybody or anything vs PAP. Many others will consider the quality of oppo or say they have no track record. I remember my family last time even voted for the slipper man something like that. So very proud of them - very wise - unlike people who talked for years in forum but vote PAP worry this worry that end up Spore now like that........

 

[mojito]

I am with you, will still vote for them vs PAP. But it's not a vote of confidence in them. I'll vote for anyone (or anything) vs PAP.

Nothing to hide here:

1997 Cheng San voted WP.
2006 AMK voted WP.
2011 AMK voted RP.
2015 AMK voted RP.

Hardcore OPPO and proud of it!

Precisely. If hardcore anti-PAP of course no choice got to vote the bicycle thief lah. But so far WP like not very steady leh. Town council nonsense I can overlook, but when national issues appear our WP is nowhere to be seen, just like dear Loong. Aiya like that stay home sleep better, i give my vote get a PAP MP better.

 

[Papsmearer]

You can rest assured that they won't. I have long given up hope on them. Even if they do, it will go something like this, in typical WP 'hard-hitting' style:

"Dear minister, why it took so long to find out he's a fake doctor?"

"Well, it's an honest mistake."

"Thank you minister for the clarification. Appreciate it. Really."

No, I think the WP question and answer session will go like this:

"Dear minister, why it took so long to find out he's a fake doctor?"
"You know, we are very busy. Look at our big salary, we have to look at so many things to buy with it, where got time to check credentials?"
"Oh, sorry to disturb your time Mr Minister. Very sorry. Please carry on. I ownself slap ownself for bothering you."

 

[Papsmearer]

Precisely. If hardcore anti-PAP of course no choice got to vote the bicycle thief lah. But so far WP like not very steady leh. Town council nonsense I can overlook, but when national issues appear our WP is nowhere to be seen, just like dear Loong. Aiya like that stay home sleep better, i give my vote get a PAP MP better.

You have exactly summarized why there was a 10% swing vote to the PAP from GE 2011 to GE 2015.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

I have never seen a bunch of more white washed, pussy questions that an oppo party can table to the PAP under Parliamentary privlege. These questions are shit useless in trying to put the PAP on the hotseat. If anything, they are so stupid that it makes the PAP answers look like geniuses.

For example,

MP for Aljunied Muhamad Faisal Abdul Manap: To ask the Minister for Transport whether members of the PTC, Board members of SMRT and the LTA and the management of Temasek Holdings were aware of both (a) the faults being discovered on trains supplied to the LTA by Kawasaki Heavy Industries and CSR Sifang in 2013; and (b) the subsequent train recall exercise.

Do you know what the PAP answer will be? Yes and Yes. And that's it. I humbly suggest that WP take their tabled questions and burn them and use PAPsmearer's questions instead.

1) Why was the contract not awarded to the lowest bid Hyundai Rotem from South Korea and instead awarded to CSR Sifang? The PAP will answer with the only answer they can give. Which is that the CSR bid was of higher quality. In which case the WP should say, "Really". does not seem so.

2) Was there any QC control written into the contract to allow LTA to monitor the production and have access to samples tests of the aluminum and steel used on the production of the trains? If not, why not? Who was responsible for drafting the contracts? And if it was, why did the testing not revealed the defective aluminum?

3) If it was already known in July 2013 about the hairline cracks on car body bolster, and the cracks were so serious that the trains were returned to China starting July 2014, why did LTA place a further order of 91 4 car trains from the same Kawasaki CSR conglomerate in May 2014 worth $749 million? The order further notes that CSR will assemble the aluminum body for the trains. LTA already has documented evidence that CSR aluminum cannot be trusted and yet rewarded this company with a very large contract for shoddy work.

4) What is the relationship between SMRT and LTA in writing specs for rolling stock to be used in singapore. Are the technical specs and the tender details written by SMRT on behalf of LTA? Does SMRT have any say in the awarding of the tenders? Does SMRT have tell LTA what trains from what companies to buy?

5) When can the LTA show the public all the bids from the all the tenders for these trains, including the techincal specs and the bids from other companies that lost?

6) Why was the public not informed about the defects right away and allowed to continue to ride the trains? Why is there such an element of secrecy surrounding these trains? The secrecy extends from the day the bid was announced (no detailed information on why the CSR bid was superior), all the way to the non disclosure to the public of the defects and finally the shipping back of the trains to China. If an independent news network based in HKG had not broken the news, we would still be in the dark. Why is a stat board operating in such secrecy?

7) Has the CPIB and the Auditor General's office been engaged to look into the behaviour and manner in which the bid was awarded, the secrecy surrounding the whole affair, and awarding of subsequent bids to the same train maker? There is obvious suspicious activities here, primarily the continued awarding of large hundre million $ to the same company, for the same product, who in the past have been proven to sell shoddy products to the LTA.

8) What is Chew Hock Yong, Saw Phaik Hwa and Desmond Kuek roles in this debacle? Saw Phaik Hwa left SMRT in Dec 2012 after 2 orders were placed for trains from the same company. Chew Hock Yong was Chief executive for LTA until 2014, he was the one present for all the earlier train orders. What did he know? Why did he order these trains? What was his decision tree?

9) Why did the 2011 COI not mention the defective trains at all, as a possible and probable cause of the widespread breakdowns? Was it wihte washed COI? Will future COI be conducted by an international independent committee instead of from the same people who have a potential conflict of interest?

I think these are the really relevant questions that need to be asked. Not the 2 cents cheap shit questions. Before Scroobal and his buddies on this forum get their panties wet, thinking WP will "humtam" the PAP, I ask them to think again.

Papsmearer for MP!
Actually all the questions are irrelevant because the 70% already accepted Khaw's 'explanation' and no one is interested in the truth or asking any more questions.
In pap we trust.

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

WP can ask all the questions they want. They still won't be taken seriously by the vast majority of the voters. Only PAP can lead Singapore well.

only PAP is dishonest enuf not to answer or give untruthful answers

 

[ginfreely]

Precisely. If hardcore anti-PAP of course no choice got to vote the bicycle thief lah. But so far WP like not very steady leh. Town council nonsense I can overlook, but when national issues appear our WP is nowhere to be seen, just like dear Loong. Aiya like that stay home sleep better, i give my vote get a PAP MP better.

That's the problem with sinkie smart alecs all this years. This oppo got problem don't vote, that oppo got problem don't vote. Good lah now absolute power for years end up with more and real problems. Stupid like hell sinkies.