Serious Fake Oppo WP tables white wash train defect questions for Parliament

[Papsmearer]

The following is republished from Workers’ Party’s Facebook.
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Many Singaporeans have been surprised at the revelation of defects in some of the trains used by the MRT, leading to 26 of these trains being shipped to China for repair or replacement. Major issues affecting our public transport system should be discussed publicly. Therefore, the Worker’s Party MPs have filed the Parliamentary questions below.

MP for Aljunied Pritam Singh: To ask the Minister for Transport (a) what are the total number of MRT trains deployed for operations; (b) what percentage of these trains are not embarking passengers due to depot-level train repairs through to 2019 affecting the trains supplied by CSR Sifang; (c) in what way has this episode affected the Ministry’s plans to improve the reliability of the MRT system.

MP for Aljunied Muhamad Faisal Abdul Manap: To ask the Minister for Transport whether members of the PTC, Board members of SMRT and the LTA and the management of Temasek Holdings were aware of both (a) the faults being discovered on trains supplied to the LTA by Kawasaki Heavy Industries and CSR Sifang in 2013; and (b) the subsequent train recall exercise.

NCMP Dennis Tan Lip Fong 陈立峰: To ask the Minister for Transport (a) was the Ministry/LTA aware of the problems with the MRT trains delivered in 2013 from Kawasaki Heavy Industries and CSR Sifang under a previous contract before placing new orders with the same consortium for more trains in 2014 and 2015; (b) if so, why were further contracts for additional trains extended to the same consortium; (c) did the Ministry/LTA evaluate alternative suppliers before placing the new orders in 2014 and 2015; (d) were any changes made to the new contracts with the consortium in 2014 and/or 2015 or any extraordinary QC measures put in place to ensure that the same problems would not recur; and (e) has the Ministry/LTA required the supplier to provide mitigating solutions or compensation for the operational set-back.

NCMP Daniel Goh 吴佩松: To ask the Minister for Transport, with regards to the 26 defective MRT trains, (a) whether the defects being not “safety-critical” meant that they pose zero safety risks for commuters, (b) why is it most effective for the car-bodies to be entirely replaced when cracks were found only on the bolsters, (c) what the risks are for cracks to happen on other components of the car-body, (d) whether the monthly safety assessment is focused only on the found defects or conducted for the entire train.

NCMP Leon Perera: To ask the Minister for Transport (a) whether current guidelines require information about the defects noted in/after 2013 and the subsequent train recall exercise initiated for 26 out of the 35 trains delivered to the LTA by Kawasaki Heavy Industries and CSR Sifang in 2013 to be made public; (b) if so, why was this information not released to the public prior to the news having been broadcast by a foreign news outlet; and (c) if not, will these guidelines be reviewed?

 

[JohnTan]

WP can ask all the questions they want. They still won't be taken seriously by the vast majority of the voters. Only PAP can lead Singapore well.

 

[po2wq]

peasants like 2 c firewoks n pyrotechnics ... not merely asking questions ...

 

[Satyr]

WP can ask all the questions they want. They still won't be taken seriously by the vast majority of the voters. Only PAP can lead Singapore well.

Only the PAP has the reins and they will try to keep it that way, that's for sure. People who ask the question, PAP vs the current opposition , are asking the wrong question. The real question is what kind of people do we need in leadership , going forward. Can we see these people, no matter from what party. Just like any company or organization. The PAP can keep the drivers seat , but they can still drive us into a ditch.

 

[Papsmearer]

I have never seen a bunch of more white washed, pussy questions that an oppo party can table to the PAP under Parliamentary privlege. These questions are shit useless in trying to put the PAP on the hotseat. If anything, they are so stupid that it makes the PAP answers look like geniuses.

For example,

MP for Aljunied Muhamad Faisal Abdul Manap: To ask the Minister for Transport whether members of the PTC, Board members of SMRT and the LTA and the management of Temasek Holdings were aware of both (a) the faults being discovered on trains supplied to the LTA by Kawasaki Heavy Industries and CSR Sifang in 2013; and (b) the subsequent train recall exercise.

Do you know what the PAP answer will be? Yes and Yes. And that's it. I humbly suggest that WP take their tabled questions and burn them and use PAPsmearer's questions instead.

1) Why was the contract not awarded to the lowest bid Hyundai Rotem from South Korea and instead awarded to CSR Sifang? The PAP will answer with the only answer they can give. Which is that the CSR bid was of higher quality. In which case the WP should say, "Really". does not seem so.

2) Was there any QC control written into the contract to allow LTA to monitor the production and have access to samples tests of the aluminum and steel used on the production of the trains? If not, why not? Who was responsible for drafting the contracts? And if it was, why did the testing not revealed the defective aluminum?

3) If it was already known in July 2013 about the hairline cracks on car body bolster, and the cracks were so serious that the trains were returned to China starting July 2014, why did LTA place a further order of 91 4 car trains from the same Kawasaki CSR conglomerate in May 2014 worth $749 million? The order further notes that CSR will assemble the aluminum body for the trains. LTA already has documented evidence that CSR aluminum cannot be trusted and yet rewarded this company with a very large contract for shoddy work.

4) What is the relationship between SMRT and LTA in writing specs for rolling stock to be used in singapore. Are the technical specs and the tender details written by SMRT on behalf of LTA? Does SMRT have any say in the awarding of the tenders? Does SMRT have tell LTA what trains from what companies to buy?

5) When can the LTA show the public all the bids from the all the tenders for these trains, including the techincal specs and the bids from other companies that lost?

6) Why was the public not informed about the defects right away and allowed to continue to ride the trains? Why is there such an element of secrecy surrounding these trains? The secrecy extends from the day the bid was announced (no detailed information on why the CSR bid was superior), all the way to the non disclosure to the public of the defects and finally the shipping back of the trains to China. If an independent news network based in HKG had not broken the news, we would still be in the dark. Why is a stat board operating in such secrecy?

7) Has the CPIB and the Auditor General's office been engaged to look into the behaviour and manner in which the bid was awarded, the secrecy surrounding the whole affair, and awarding of subsequent bids to the same train maker? There is obvious suspicious activities here, primarily the continued awarding of large hundre million $ to the same company, for the same product, who in the past have been proven to sell shoddy products to the LTA.

8) What is Chew Hock Yong, Saw Phaik Hwa and Desmond Kuek roles in this debacle? Saw Phaik Hwa left SMRT in Dec 2012 after 2 orders were placed for trains from the same company. Chew Hock Yong was Chief executive for LTA until 2014, he was the one present for all the earlier train orders. What did he know? Why did he order these trains? What was his decision tree?

9) Why did the 2011 COI not mention the defective trains at all, as a possible and probable cause of the widespread breakdowns? Was it wihte washed COI? Will future COI be conducted by an international independent committee instead of from the same people who have a potential conflict of interest?

I think these are the really relevant questions that need to be asked. Not the 2 cents cheap shit questions. Before Scroobal and his buddies on this forum get their panties wet, thinking WP will "humtam" the PAP, I ask them to think again.

 

[Papsmearer]

Notice that the WP questions have been tabled by 2 MPs and 3 NCMP? Are you shitting me? This is the chance for Low to take charge and lead the way in the all out whacking of the PAP in Parliament, but he is no show. Where is Low, Sylvia Lim and Chen Show Mao in all of this? These are the WP heavy weights, and instead of them wading into the debate full force, they send 3 NCMPs to do it for them? this is why I say they are fake oppo. Their lack of leadership when presented with this golden opportunity to whack the PAP's SAF scholar system and the rot in the LTA and SMRT is the exact reason why no on trusted them and it costs the whole oppo 10% in popular vote in the 2015 general elections. when people see this kind of performance from the WP, why would they vote for them?

 

[shittypore]

This is really a Wayang Party, nothing on dollars and cents being asked?

 

[tanwahtiu]

shit opposition only ask question to get their $16K salary.

All they need to tell PAP is handover the defect parts they can get if fix in no time.

All handover the SMRT to WP to run it for 4 years try WP style of corporate government.

WP can ask all the questions they want. They still won't be taken seriously by the vast majority of the voters. Only PAP can lead Singapore well.

 

[tanwahtiu]

bro, this is what the 70% get for oppositions?

blame the 70% instead for putting only 1 dog to fight with 82 dogs.

Notice that the WP questions have been tabled by 2 MPs and 3 NCMP? Are you shitting me? This is the chance for Low to take charge and lead the way in the all out whacking of the PAP in Parliament, but he is no show. Where is Low, Sylvia Lim and Chen Show Mao in all of this? These are the WP heavy weights, and instead of them wading into the debate full force, they send 3 NCMPs to do it for them? this is why I say they are fake oppo. Their lack of leadership when presented with this golden opportunity to whack the PAP's SAF scholar system and the rot in the LTA and SMRT is the exact reason why no on trusted them and it costs the whole oppo 10% in popular vote in the 2015 general elections. when people see this kind of performance from the WP, why would they vote for them?

 

[Pinkieslut]

shit opposition only ask question to get their $16K salary.

All they need to tell PAP is handover the defect parts they can get if fix in no time.

All handover the SMRT to WP to run it for 4 years try WP style of corporate government.

Already informed you buggers that Sinkie race has not much hope. Whether oppositions, the establishments, the elites, the doggies or 'entrepreneurs'.

Just look out for yourself in this cuntry. If you can migrate. Don't bank any hope of this cuntry and its shitizen. The end of days are coming for this place whereby the Sinkie race still mostly hope business as usual.

In fact if you do your own ground work, many lack world views and think the current economic problem is just a atypical recession. It is not. The change we have not is a seachange of the world at the end of post colonialism (domination by angmos) and post WW2 economic boom (money printing, free trade, etc).

Those who does not have the intellectual properties, concrete resources and deep cultural branding will be washed away.

Can see obviously even the establishment is at its wits end. Anyhow humtum hub this hub that even asking over the hill PMETS to go be software developers and engineers, talking up itself being a Fintech hub (which is nonsense when the PRC and US are the countries controlling the money supply and flow). Even in this Fintech hub again is probably headed by Angmo or ah neh management staff with ah neh Pinoys staff. When the dough runs out these people will balk kampung faster than you can blink your eye.

So please save yourself, don't have wishful thinking things will change here.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Before Scroobal and his buddies on this forum get their panties wet, thinking WP will "humtam" the PAP, I ask them to think again.

I see you've learnt the art of the pre-emptive insult. Nicely played.

Now go fuck yourself.

 

[Papsmearer]

I see you've learnt the art of the pre-emptive insult. Nicely played.

Now go fuck yourself.

Sorry, i can't. I am busy fucking your wife now. When you come home and notice her cheebye is very loose, you know I have been there. ok?

 

[Papsmearer]

Already informed you buggers that Sinkie race has not much hope. Whether oppositions, the establishments, the elites, the doggies or 'entrepreneurs'.

Just look out for yourself in this cuntry. If you can migrate. Don't bank any hope of this cuntry and its shitizen. The end of days are coming for this place whereby the Sinkie race still mostly hope business as usual.

In fact if you do your own ground work, many lack world views and think the current economic problem is just a atypical recession. It is not. The change we have not is a seachange of the world at the end of post colonialism (domination by angmos) and post WW2 economic boom (money printing, free trade, etc).

Those who does not have the intellectual properties, concrete resources and deep cultural branding will be washed away.

Can see obviously even the establishment is at its wits end. Anyhow humtum hub this hub that even asking over the hill PMETS to go be software developers and engineers, talking up itself being a Fintech hub (which is nonsense when the PRC and US are the countries controlling the money supply and flow). Even in this Fintech hub again is probably headed by Angmo or ah neh management staff with ah neh Pinoys staff. When the dough runs out these people will balk kampung faster than you can blink your eye.

So please save yourself, don't have wishful thinking things will change here.

U don't have to worry about sinkies in another couple of generations. they will be extinct. many sinkies (my estimate is about 15% to 20%) have already left singapore and living overseas permanently. This includes the ones that have officially emigrated overseas, and also includes the ones that married foreigners and moved overseas. the evidence is everywhere. Look at the prominent people. Wooden got 2 kids, one of which is permanently living in London, married to Brit. Her kids which should have been born in singapore if she had married a local, are now all UK citizens. Even the first President Yusoff Ishak does not have an immediate relative living in singapore, most of his kids are either moved to Brunei or Malaysia.

Those that remain are not breeding enough, and are rapidly mixed in with new shitizens and PRs from other countries. These so called new sinkies will run at the first sign of trouble and will move to the US or canada when their application is approved. As the pioneer generation and the baby boom generation die off, the simkie race will be put on the endangered species list and eventually extinct.

 

[JohnTan]

WP is smart to ask the harmless questions. That way, their supporters and swing voters are assured that WP won't upset the boat and try to displace PAP. Sinkies won't stand for it. JBJ and Chee have tried to upset the boat and their political careers ended in shambles.

 

[Papsmearer]

WP is smart to ask the harmless questions. That way, their supporters and swing voters are assured that WP won't upset the boat and try to displace PAP. Sinkies won't stand for it. JBJ and Chee have tried to upset the boat and their political careers ended in shambles.

Its easy to try and scew up one individual at a time. But how are they going to ruin the political careers of an entire GRC team?

 

[mojito]

Ah. You see? The WP ask already. So you cocksuckers dun say WP chobolan keep quiet do nothing eh?

 

[JohnTan]

Its easy to try and scew up one individual at a time. But how are they going to ruin the political careers of an entire GRC team?

PAP doesn't need to anymore. The sinkie voters will vote against any opposition candidate that poses a serious threat to PAP. The evidence is overwhelming.

Low Thia Khiang and Chiam noticed this trend. Hence, their opposition to PAP is mild and they are far less confrontational than JBJ and Chee, who both ended up bankrupt and largely rejected by voters.

In GE2015, voters got spooked when there were a lot of rumours guessing that a number of PAP wards were going to be lost to WP, especially East Coast and Marine Parade. That spooked many sinkies who feared that this could seriously rock PAP's super majority in parliament. Hence, they voted in large numbers against WP. Even an unpopular minister like Lim Swee Say could retain his seat by a large majority.

All the other opposition parties build their platform on removing PAP, especially Reform Party, SDP and Sinkie First. Hence, they all lost very badly. WP builds its image as co-driver with PAP, slapping them occasionally but never going to force PAP out of the driver's seat. Sinkies feel reassured and may take baby steps to vote for WP, but they will still bite WP hard if WP forgets its rightful place and tries to displace PAP.

Given the circumstances, only losers will join WP as WP has no chance of ever dethroning PAP in the foreseeable future. Sinkies cannot imagine a future without PAP. They would rather suffer the smaller loss and lose their entire CPF, than to trust Singapore to a party like SDP and watch the country end up bankrupt like Venezuela or Zimbabwe.

 

[winnipegjets]

WP can ask all the questions they want. They still won't be taken seriously by the vast majority of the voters. Only PAP can lead Singapore well.

If the WP MPs were of any calibre like opposition MPs in other developed countries, the PAP would have lost the last election.

 

[winnipegjets]

WP MPs could adopt questions posted by our forums to ask the Transport Minister.

And the WP MPs should ask more questions on other platforms beside the fake parliament ...questions that the Speaker of Parliament won't allow to be asked as the ministers are so coddled and incapable to think on their feet.

 

[JohnTan]

If the WP MPs were of any calibre like opposition MPs in other developed countries, the PAP would have lost the last election.

Other opposition parties have some track record of running the country. People vote for those opposition based on the track record of the party they represent.

In Singapore, none of the opposition parties have a track record of running the country. It would be like asking a kid to drive a car.

Unless PAP is really terrible, sinkies would prefer to vote in a mediocre PAP candidate over a good opposition candidate.

Sinkies are also aware that unless they vote out the PAP government, any minority opposition ward is likely to receive less funds, and its MP would be totally cut off from government grassroots support and various government institutions.