Failed ceo of stellantis says tesla may disappear

[syed putra]

Ex–Stellantis CEO says Tesla could exit the car industry and may not exist in 10 years: ‘Tesla’s stock​

October 24, 2025 at 12:11 PM EDT

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Carlos Tavares, former CEO of Stellantis.
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Car executives once saw Tesla as their industry’s biggest disrupter. But now, at least one former automotive CEO says the company may pull out of the car business, and could even cease to exist within 10 years.

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Carlos Tavares, who resigned from the top job at Jeep manufacturer Stellantis late last year, said Elon Musk’s Tesla is being hammered by Chinese rival BYD, which surpassed Tesla in global EV sales earlier this year.

Because of this pressure, and with multiple ventures already on his plate, it’s possible CEO Elon Musk may eventually turn his attention elsewhere, said Tavares.



“We can’t rule out that at some point, he’ll decide to leave the automotive industry to refocus on humanoid robots, SpaceX, or artificial intelligence,” Tavares told French newspaper Les Echos in an interview. “Elon Musk will have left the automotive industry.”

Tavares went on to say BYD was eating Tesla’s lunch with more efficient and cost-effective vehicles.



“Tesla’s stock market value loss will be colossal because this valuation is simply stratospheric,” he said. “I’m not sure that Tesla will still exist in 10 years. It’s an innovative group, but they’ll be beaten by BYD’s efficiency.”

A spokesperson for Tesla did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The company surpassed Wall Street expectations Wednesday with revenue of $28 billion up 12% year over year, and a 33% deliveries increase in China, its second biggest market.

But over the past five years, Tesla’s market share in China has fallen to about 5% from 16% in 2020, in part because of competition from BYD. Musk himself last year said: “Chinese car companies are the most competitive car companies in the world.”



Tesla’s shares were down about 2.5% Friday afternoon and have whipsawed throughout the year. Through March, the company’s shares were down as much as 39%. As of Friday, its stock was up about 8.6% year to date.



Tavares’s comments come as the EV maker tries to hang on to its superstar CEO. Musk spent much of the past year aiding President Donald Trump as a leader of the Department of Government Efficiency. At the time, he told Fox News, he was balancing his responsibilities “with great difficulty.”

Meanwhile, Tesla has faced setbacks in its supply chain, owing in part to Trump’s tariffs, and pressure on sales thanks to the elimination of the EV tax credit in the U.S.

The company has repeatedly said it needs to retain and incentivize Musk to accomplish its long-term goals. A 10-year, $1 trillion pay package for the CEO, set for a shareholder vote on Nov. 6, is meant to do just that—while also setting lofty goals such as boosting the company’s market capitalization by 500% to $8.5 trillion.

Two proxy advisory firms earlier this month recommended shareholders vote against the pay package, in part because they claim the board has too much leeway in deciding when and how Musk has met the defined goals. Tesla’s board denies this claim.

“This award aims to see Tesla grow larger than any company in history. Each and every operational milestone, including the product goals, must be validated by an extraordinarily ambitious—and sustained—increase in market capitalization,” Tesla board chair Robyn Denholm said in a statement.

 

[k1976]

But but…this AMDK Tio forced to remove last year Liao…hero Musk still have another good 10yrs mah

This AMDK really dun know maths

 

[Aaron carter]

Failed CEO. Nuff said.

 

[Sustanon]

those who paid an arm and leg in SG better pray day and night that the car company for the car they own; better not go out of business.....

 

[eatshitndie]

if you drive a tesla thru’ a cemetery apparently you can see apparitions on the dashboard screen. its cameras are that powerful.

 

[Leongsam]

 

[winnipegjets]

Without government bailout, Stellantis would have disappeared in 2008.

 

[syed putra]

Not sure as these cop car may combust upon ramming a get away car.

 

[syed putra]

I dunno why chinese like this car so much.but it seems it has a long wheelbase 6 seater version.


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Tesla Model Y sold out in China for 2025​

Customers who wish to get their cars by the end of the year would likely need to get an inventory unit.

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It appears that the Model Y has been sold out for 2025 in China. This seems to be true for the four variants of the vehicle that are currently offered in the country.

Tesla China’s order page update​

A look at Tesla China’s order page for the Model Y shows a message informing customers that those who wish to guarantee delivery by the end of the year should purchase an inventory unit. This was despite the Model Y RWD and Model Y L showing an estimated delivery timeline of 4-8 weeks, and the Model Y Long Range RWD and Model Y Long Range AWD showing 4-13 weeks.

As per industry watchers, these updates on the Model Y’s order page suggest that Tesla China’s sales capacity for the remainder of 2025 has been sold out. The fact that estimated delivery timeframes for the Model Y Long Range RWD and AWD extend up to 13 weeks also bodes well for demand for the vehicle, especially given strong rivals like the Xiaomi YU7, which undercuts the Model Y in price.

 

[Leongsam]

Not sure as these cop car may combust upon ramming a get away car.

ICE cars are far more likely to catch fire compared to EVs.

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MYTH: "EVs always catch fire"​

Last summer a car park at Luton airport went up in an inferno. Social media speculation, authoritative as ever, pinned it to an EV fire. Thanks social media for your contribution. The fire brigade later said it was a diesel car.

Now, an EV battery fire is bad news. It burns hot and is hard to extinguish. Indeed it can ignite again after several days. But burning isn’t a battery’s sole purpose in life. Whereas a combustion car carries a tankful of stuff whose one job is catching rapidly on fire. And it can do so when you don’t want it to.

Electric car fires are very rare. They might stem from a fault or crash, but no official crash test ever caused one. EVs are extensively developed and subject to the discipline of recalls. Electric scooter fires are far more common since they’re mostly uncertified – because they’re illegal.

The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency (MSB) reported 23 fires in 611,000 EVs during 2022, or 0.004 per cent in a year, which makes it 20 times less likely to happen than ICE car fires, which burned 3,400 times in 4.4 million cars, or 0.08 per cent. MSB has also recently proven a new way to extinguish battery fires fast.