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Chitchat Factional Fight over New PM

virus

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A mouth that will take both cocks from the deputies n a cunt holes big enough to keep choice?
 

rotiprata

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Come to think of, why not Induanee? She is exotic, of mixed parentage, good representation of our multicultural society here in Sinkiestan, most important of all- a good mother figure.
That's it! Me root for Induanee! Induanee! INDUANEE!

i have always believe that she is more qualified to be a minister than the other 2 aunties :smile:
 

scroobal

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Indranee is not a cabinet minister and folks were surprised that she is in the group of 16. She is there is act as chair and referee. A role that she plays during GE - all forms and documents for nominations must be cleared by her for all PAP candidates.

Come to think of, why not Induanee? She is exotic, of mixed parentage, good representation of our multicultural society here in Sinkiestan, most important of all- a good mother figure.

That's it! Me root for Induanee! Induanee! INDUANEE!
 

scroobal

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His past, why the link between the family and him, his presence at the funeral, etc etc are all unanswered mysteries. Usually when someone is pushed to the front or is favoured there is a link or an act that can be identified but not this chap.

Unless a scandal for a long long time ago rears its ugly head and is made public.
 

scroobal

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Succession Planning Called Into Question
January 7, 2018
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By Augustine Low

Lee Hsien Loong became Prime Minister in 2004. The same year, Ho Ching became CEO of Temasek Holdings. So this year, Singapore’s power couple celebrate their 14th anniversary as the most powerful man and most powerful woman.

After 14 long years, it seems nothing has changed. They are both snug in their positions, with no sign that either is going away anytime soon.

Even Goh Chok Tong has seemingly grown impatient, setting a New Year’s deadline for PM Lee to designate the next PM within six to nine months, calling it an “urgent challenge.”

Will PM Lee heed the call of Goh Chok Tong? Or will he simply delay it to a time of his own choosing?


As for Ho Ching, there is also no successor in sight after 14 years. Ordinarily, what the wife of the Prime Minister does is none of our business. But since Ho Ching is considered the most powerful woman in Singapore, she is fair game and has to be subject to scrutiny.

Dr Tan Cheng Bock has said that he felt it was “very very dangerous” to have the wife of the PM head such a key institution as Temasek Holdings because there are bound to be conflict of interests. Lee Hsien Yang and Lee Wei Ling have alleged that Ho Ching acted improperly on behalf of the Prime Minister’s Office, without holding an official position.

More than 10 years ago, Temasek Holdings started talking about succession planning, including for the CEO. There was a failed attempt at replacing her with CEO-designate Charles Goodyear back in 2009, who abruptly left after several months. All we got was a terse statement from Chairman S Dhanabalan: “It is with much regret that both Chip and the Board have accepted that it is best not to proceed with the leadership transition. We wish Chip all the best in his future endeavours and are happy that Ho Ching has agreed to continue as Executive Director and CEO.”

The Board, it seems, continues to be happy to this day that Ho Ching “has agreed” to be CEO. A global search was reportedly carried out but it has yielded nothing so far. Are we to believe that after years of searching, nobody in the whole wide world is deemed capable of replacing Ho Ching? Or has the Board stopped looking for a successor altogether? We simply do not have answers to these questions.

And for Goh Chok Tong, the second Prime Minister, to openly call for the leadership issue to be addressed urgently, it raises questions about the mindset and intentions of the current Prime Minister.

For a country previously known for its far-sightedness and succession planning, we are certainly coming up short on two very important counts.

Meanwhile, into their 14th year as Singapore’s power couple, PM Lee and Ho Ching continue to rule the roost. It would be nice to say that Singapore is getting two for the price of one, but in reality both come with a heavy price. It is estimated that with bonuses the annual salary of PM Lee could be around $3 million. As for Ho Ching, it is a closely guarded secret and the sky’s the limit.
 

scroobal

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Senior Minister of State Indranee Rajah: Next PM issue has been “over-discussed”
The group of 16 4th-gen leaders are 'very much' focused on other 'pressing issues'.

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Here’s our transcript of what we could hear from what she said:

“What I would say is this: I think that that topic has been over-discussed.

Essentially the 16 have said what we do need to say about this. It’s really not about us, it’s about Singapore.

So even when you talk about future leadership, you talk about all of this, at the end of the day, what is this for? It’s about ensuring stability for Singapore, it’s ensuring that as a country we have strong leadership and that we are able to progress. And as far as the younger ministers are concerned, our approach is still that you must have a collegiate approach and we work very well together as a team, both the senior members of cabinet as well as the ministers themselves.

And we have a lot of pressing issues: this budget that’s upcoming, there’s jobs, there’s social stuff, fiscal sustainability, so these are the things we are very much focused on.

(responding to a follow-up asking if a favourite has emerged) That’s already been addressed in the statement, meaning that, in good time.”

Over-discussed?
We must admit, this is the first time we’ve had so much uncertainty over who our next PM will be.

It was clear to the Singaporean public when Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong emerged as front-runner years ahead of being appointed as PM in 1990, and also clear for, well, more than a decade, when current PM Lee Hsien Loong came up as our next leader.

Given the lengthy advance notice, we think it’s reasonable to seek certainty — even ESM Goh himself spoke out quite loudly, and also deliberately, he admits, about this:


Indranee points out that there are numerous “pressing issues” facing the 16 leaders — whose composition also tends to puzzle us, we must admit:



But okay, she mentions the upcoming Budget, social issues, fiscal stability, jobs. Ultimately, she remains coy, not saying much in response to the answer to “who” or, well, “why all the hemming and hawing”.

We do think the matter of who Singapore’s next leader will be — especially since we don’t actually have a say in it — is important, especially in deciding all the issues she raised, though.

Just sayin’.
 

aurvandil

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He seems perfect for the job ! Just as the US deserves to get DT as President, we deserve to get CCS as Prime Minister.

His past, why the link between the family and him, his presence at the funeral, etc etc are all unanswered mysteries. Usually when someone is pushed to the front or is favoured there is a link or an act that can be identified but not this chap.
 

maxsanic

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An interesting viewpoint and valid. Look at Obama and the Republican majority going into his 2nd term. When it becomes tight, they will apply the CEC slate approach - cadres told who to vote. What is unclear is the role of the 16 - is it theirs and theirs alone. When GCT was chosen, it was done at Tony Tan's home and that generation of young leaders chose GCT amongst those who were prepared to be considered.

The choice between GCT and TT could be left to the younger generation with less interference simply because it was much less muted in terms of the impact and risk outcomes. The big picture at that time was:

1) Everyone knows LKY is da boss (as in directly in your face, not shadow shogun style) no matter who takes over.
2) Everyone knows it's a seat warmer for LHL.

For this current succession, I'm doubtful of this public narrative of leaving a bunch of youngsters to determine who to appoint as the leader. The PAP is a tight knitted party just like the WP, I sense there is a lot of informal power sharing arrangements within the party beyond official office holders. It seems unlikely that a party with such a history and character would empower a bunch of 16 youngsters (most of whom have limited party grounding) to call the shots on what is arguably the most important decision for the past few decades.

The real power lies in who determines these 16 youngsters and who amongst them puts him/herself up for consideration rather than who these 16 youngsters choose. It's no different from a public company's Board of Directors - theoretically the board members vote among themselves solely on the merits of each resolution, but we all know the real determinant is the tussle between influential shareholders to install their clique members into the seats.
 

mojito

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Come to think of, why not Induanee? She is exotic, of mixed parentage, good representation of our multicultural society here in Sinkiestan, most important of all- a good mother figure.

That's it! Me root for Induanee! Induanee! INDUANEE!

For a moment I thought u said indranee has good figure. Also true! :biggrin:
 

soikee

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Indranee is not a cabinet minister and folks were surprised that she is in the group of 16. She is there is act as chair and referee. A role that she plays during GE - all forms and documents for nominations must be cleared by her for all PAP candidates.


Tua liap nee will soon be promoted to cabinet minister.
 

rotiprata

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Some important facts to consider. Within the party of 16, only 1 person has political status and control by a long and or Heng has expressed his intention not to be considered.

hello.. when a person has taken the oath to serve the country, there is no running away.... unless he/she resigns from politics. .
 

myfoot123

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CCS is heavily back by LHL, TCH, Lawrence Wong, Shanmugam, Janil Puthucheary, Grace Foo and a few others .
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You are saying that CCS is backed by Sham (the law), TCH (the govt payroll master), Lawrence (the PA/CC/RCs) and LHL (the final decision maker). Apparently this group of people formed the mysterious comittees on Oxleygate saga. Birds of the same feather, like that CCS win liao loh because LHL wanted him to keep the Oxley House intact if he became the next PM. Who else but the "Yes-man" CCS more fitting for the job?
 
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scroobal

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Yes, it’s the same lot.

You are saying that CCS is backed by Sham (the law), TCH (the govt payroll master), Lawrence (the PA/CC/RCs) and LHL (the final decision maker). Apparently this group of people formed the mysterious comittees on Oxleygate saga. Birds of the same feather, like that CCS win liao loh because LHL wanted him to keep the Oxley House intact if he became the next PM. Who else but the "Yes-man" CCS more fitting for the job?
 
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