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Fact or Fright? Tony Tan warns of ‘perfect storm’

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http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5121779

Presidential hopeful Dr Tony Tan warns of a 'perfect storm' coming in the global economy - and says he can help the Singapore government move through hard times with his experience in the financial markets.

Dr Tan was referring to the ongoing Eurozone and the United States debt crisis, which he fears will cause a double-dip recession that will affect Asia and Singapore.

The former Deputy Prime Minister says he has worked 20 years in the financial sector and has intimate knowledge that can help Singapore leaders understand the situation better.

He was speaking to reporters at a book launch.

He said he was prompted to leave what he described as 'comfortable jobs' at Singapore Press Holdings and the Government of Singapore Investment Corp (GIC) because he could not stand aside when he felt he could contribute.

He pointed out, however, that this was within the limits of what the president can do.

He says that as President, he could have broader influence on Singapore's leaders than in his former role at GIC.
 

DoctorEvil

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So, does anyone here think that SR Nathan is in a position to help the Singapore government manage its finances? Of course not. If TT really wants to do that, he should stay on as the GIC chairman.
 

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Kan ni na bu lao chee bye, with all these uncertainties, why PAP still advocates increment of transport fares? Allowed increase of tariff? :oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:
 

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He said he was prompted to leave what he described as 'comfortable jobs' at Singapore Press Holdings and the Government of Singapore Investment Corp (GIC) because he could not stand aside when he felt he could contribute.

Dr Tony Tan should join SDP and be part of the Tak Boleh Tahan team.
 

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Everytime these people open their mouths to justify their actions or previous statements, they really want to make you want to puke.
And they say it with so much sincerity and such a straight face.
 

Unrepented

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Even not as president, can't TT offer his views as a singaporean:confused:

Moreover, he has been in the civil service for so long, just a phone call to advise his friends niah mah. Why must be president then can advise and help :confused:

TT can also approach his MP as a channel for his advice to flow.:p
 

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Uncle TT could have helped GIC earn money by being in GIC. With his stature, he could have easily invited any ministar for tea, coffee, dinner, whatever for a private chat and give them data to help them. He no need be President to do this.

Anyway, why do we have top gahmen scholars studied oversea for? And a whole BUNCH of them too!
 

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Is he contending that being the President he will be our saviour against the impending Perfect Storm? The gloom and doom scenario has been played out everytime and the 61% will carry on believing it. The nest part about TT is the fact that he was part and parcel of all the happenings that screws us to no end. Education, FT policy, NS, GIC, the gerrymandering of the GRCs etc and etc. Worst thing was to cover up the fact that his son had 12 years of freedom to pursue a career as though he was one of Singapore's outstanding prodigies.
 

zeddy

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Aiyoh Tony, I so scared leh.. Perfect storm coming our way... Where to run and hide..???

Where the Fuck are you when many Sporeans lost their jobs a few years back..???

Oh you are busy spending your millions while many Sporeans are out of their jobs.. :mad:

Where the fuck are you when those foreign thrash robbed Sporeans of their jobs..??? :mad:

Oh, you are busy licking the balls of your Masters..

Only now you are opening your Cb mouth and claiming to be the Saviour of all Sporeans... :mad:

Fuck off lah Tony... Just fuck off you white haired devil scumbag.. :mad: :mad:
 

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suddenlee dr tony 4get d role of a president !!

d president is a puppet

he/she has GOT NO CONSTITIUTIONALS RIGHTS



if dr tony tink he can go 'over-d-line' .... then next. ...... he b asking 2 sit inside parliament
 

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Someone needs to point out that during his term at GIC, his visionary leadership has resulted in sterling investments in companies such as Citigroup, UBS and a raft of US "AAA" mortgage securities issued by dubious SPVs. If the US government had allowed these companies to go bust back then the Singapore reserves would be like those ash floating around now after every 7th month offering burning by the aunties and uncles on the streets.

This cheebye kia has no clue on economics issues and now want to pretend to be an expert knowing what to do. I bet they were peeing in their pants everyday when their collective US$50b in investments in the US market were about to be vaporised in the autumm of 2008. Having driven our GIC into a ditch, he is now proposing to oversee the new drivers he has appointed to replace himself.

While bad government is everywhere, only in Singapore you can find someone to say that the government here is better than the one in Malaysia, Thailand and Zimbabwe, therefore on that account we should just let them do whatever they want. Singaporeans deserve all the fucking they get from PAP. Without lubes.
 

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TT is trying to side track about the case of his son and moved on to to talk about perfect storm...what a perfect excuse!
 

hairylee

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No worries Tony.
Our ministers are top talent and we have paid them top dollars. This storm will not affect us.
Moreover, we have the mother of all talent - LKY, around.
Better to get him now if things are going wrong than to disturb him when he is six feet underground.
 

sense

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Hmmm... good market correction?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dow-f...tml?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

Dow falls 512 in steepest decline since '08 crisis
Worst day for Wall Street since 2008 crisis: Dow falls 512 and investors flee for safety

David K. Randall, AP Business Writer, On Thursday August 4, 2011, 11:13 pm

NEW YORK (AP) -- Gripped by fear of a new recession, Wall Street suffered its worst day Thursday since the financial crisis in the fall of 2008. The firestorm of selling that erased more than 500 points off the Dow Jones industrial average then spread overseas.

The sell-off wiped out the Dow's remaining gains for 2011. It put the Dow and broader stock indexes into what investors call a correction -- down 10 percent from their highs in the spring.

In Friday trading in Asia, Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 stock average was down more than 3 percent and Hong Kong's Hang Seng shed 4 percent.

"We are continuing to be bombarded by worries about the global economy," said Bill Stone, the chief investment strategist for PNC Financial.

Across the financial markets, the day was reminiscent of the wild swings that defined the financial crisis in September and October three years ago. Gold prices briefly hit a record high. Oil fell even more than stocks -- 6 percent, or $5.30 a barrel. And frightened investors were so desperate to get into some government bonds that they were willing accept almost no return on their money.

It was the most alarming day yet in the almost uninterrupted selling that has swept Wall Street for two weeks. The Dow has lost more than 1,300 points, or 10.5 percent. By one broad measure kept by Dow Jones, almost $1.9 trillion in market value has disappeared.

For the day, the Dow closed down 512.76 points, at 11,383.68. It was the steepest point decline since Dec. 1, 2008.

Thursday's decline was the ninth-worst by points for the Dow. In percentage terms, the decline of 4.3 percent does not rank among the worst. On Black Monday in 1987, for example, the Dow fell 22 percent.

Two weeks ago, investors appeared worried about the deadlocked negotiations in Washington over raising the ceiling on government debt. As soon as the ceiling was raised, investors focused on the economy, and the selling accelerated.

On Thursday, growing fear about the weakening U.S. economy was joined by concern in Europe that the troubled economies of Italy and Spain might need help from the European Union.

The European Union has already given financial assistance to Greece and Ireland, two countries that have struggled to pay their debts. A financial rescue package for Italy or Spain might be more than the group of countries can handle.

Traders also unloaded stocks before Friday's release of the government's unemployment report for July, which is expected to show weak job growth and perhaps a rise in the unemployment rate, which is 9.2 percent.

Together, they produced "a perfect storm of selling," said Ryan Larson, head of U.S. equity trading for RBC Global Asset Management.

Until a week ago, Wall Street had mostly convinced itself that the U.S. economy would improve in the second half of the year. Gas prices were falling, and Japanese factories were resuming production after disruptions from the March earthquake.

Then one report after another began to show that the economy was much weaker than first thought.

Manufacturing is barely growing. The service sector, which covers about 90 percent of the American work force, is growing at the slowest rate in a year and a half. People spent less in June than in May, the first decline since September 2009.

And the overall economy is expanding at the slowest pace since the end of the Great Recession. It grew at an annual rate of just 0.8 percent for the first six months of this year, raising the risk of another recession.

In an indication of how frightened investors are, Bank of New York Mellon said it would start charging large investors to hold their cash because they are depositing so much. The bank's clients include pension funds and large investment houses that are selling stock and need to deposit the proceeds.

Mark Luschini, chief investment strategist for Janney Montgomery Scott, an investment firm in Philadelphia, said his clients saw the move from stocks into cash as "a parking lot to sort things out."

"With the scars of 2008 still fresh," he said, "some clients don't want to miss the chance to pre-empt further damage should it come."

Wells Fargo Advisers, a financial management company in St. Louis, said clients were more nervous.

"I wouldn't say they're totally panicking. But obviously nerves are rattled," said Scott Marcouiller, chief technical market strategist there. "And I think that is simply because of the speed of the decline."

Other market indicators reinforced the risk-averse mood. Gold, which is seen as a safe investment when the stock market is turbulent, set a record price, $1,684.90 an ounce, before falling to finish the day at $1,659. Adjusted for inflation, gold is still far below the record reached in 1980.

The yield on the 10-year Treasury note fell to 2.42 percent, its lowest of the year, and the yield on the 2-year Treasury note hit its lowest ever, 0.265 percent. Bond yields fall when demand for bonds increases.

The yield on the one-month Treasury bill fell to almost nothing -- 0.008 percent. Investors were willing to accept paltry returns in exchange for holding investments they believed to be stable.

The sell-off was broad. All 10 industry groups in the Standard & Poor's 500 index fell. Energy companies lost almost 7 percent, materials companies were down 6.6 percent, and industrial companies lost more than 5 percent.

For a time, Kraft Foods was the only stock to rise among the 30 that make up the Dow industrials. Kraft announced Thursday that it would split in two, with one company focusing on snacks and the other groceries. But the selling eventually dragged Kraft under, too, and its stock finished down 52 cents, at $33.78.

Steep stock market losses like the ones of the past two weeks can be self-reinforcing. A drop in stocks erodes household wealth and raises doubts about the economic outlook.

The result can be what economists call a vicious cycle. Stock losses take a toll on consumer confidence and make people more reluctant to spend money. Consumer spending makes up 70 percent of economic output in the United States.

Kevin Cook, senior stock strategist for Zacks Investment Research in Chicago, said investors' worst fears probably won't come true.

"This is not 2008 again," he said. "We don't have a liquidity crisis, we don't have a credit crisis -- this is just profit taking."

Cook said he believes the S&P 500, which closed Thursday at 1,200.07, will trade between 1,150 and 1,250 between now and Oct. 1, at least until investors have enough information to determine whether the economy is in recession again.

Even taking into account the recent declines, stocks are still considered to be in an impressive bull market that began March 9, 2009, when the market reached its recession low.

The Dow closed that day at 6,547. Since then, it is up about 74 percent.

One year ago, the Dow closed at 10,680. About a month later, the stock market began a rally that took the Dow almost to 13,000. The catalyst was an announcement by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke that the Fed was preparing to launch a program to buy $600 billion in government bonds to keep interest rates low and help stocks rally.

The sell-off now comes at a time when corporate profits are growing. For the S&P 500, a measure called the forward price-to-earnings ratio has fallen to about 12, well below its long-term average of 16. That means that investors who buy now are paying less for each dollar in profits.

Based on what an investor now pays for corporate profits, stocks are now trading at their lowest levels in 20 years, said Tim Courtney, chief investment officer of Burns Advisory Group in Oklahoma City.

But few companies were spared in the sell-off Thursday. Just three of the 500 stocks in the S&P 500 moved higher. General Motors fell 4 percent despite beating analyst estimates for its quarterly earnings.
 

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Probably good news for our electric bills if this continues. Let's observe what the EMA (and SMRT / SBS Transit) do during the perfect storm.

Oil falls to lowest level in 6 months
Oil posts biggest 1-day drop in 3 months on anxiety about slowing global economy
Chris Kahn, AP Energy Writer, On Thursday August 4, 2011, 8:11 pm EDT

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil posted its biggest one-day drop in three months as investors worried about another recession.

Crude prices tumbled nearly 6 percent Thursday, outpacing a broad sell-off on Wall Street, where major indexes were down more than 4 percent.

This should be good news for motorists. If oil holds at these lower levels, the drop could be felt within days at gas pumps across America. Fred Rozell, retail pricing director at Oil Price Information Service, said the recent slide in oil could cut between 20 to 35 cents from a gallon of regular over the next month. The national average is currently $3.703 per gallon.

"You could see some sizable declines at the pump," Rozell said.

Benchmark West Texas Intermediate crude for September delivery fell $5.30, or 5.8 percent, to settle at $86.63 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. That's the steepest drop since oil took an 8.7 percent tumble on May 5. Oil dropped as low as $86.04 per barrel earlier in the day, its lowest level since February.

Brent crude, used to price many international oil varieties, lost $5.98, or 5.3 percent, to settle at $107.25 per barrel on the ICE Futures exchange in London.

Thursday's drop in oil should bring down wholesale gasoline prices almost immediately. That usually is followed by a drop at the pump. Retail station owners, operating on slim profit margins, are reluctant to pass those savings on to consumers, but competition among stations eventually forces their hand.

Earlier in the summer, investors were still holding on to the notion that fuel prices would rise as economies in the U.S. and Europe recovered from the Great Recession. Even a pullback in U.S. gasoline consumption couldn't push oil back from around $100 per barrel.

A string of disappointing reports on manufacturing and economic growth during the past week, combined with lawmakers squabbling over spending and debt in the U.S. and Europe, has everyone in the mood to sell oil, Rozell said.

Oil has declined for seven straight trading days. It's down 13 percent since July 26. Prices dropped as the government reported sluggish, 1.3 percent GDP growth in the second quarter, and reports said that manufacturing activity was cooling off in the U.S. and China.

On Thursday a rising dollar also helped pull oil lower. Oil, which is priced in dollars, tends to fall as the dollar rises and makes crude more expensive for investors holding foreign money.

"We've come down so far, so fast, that it seems investors are just looking for an excuse to sell," independent analyst Jim Ritterbusch said.

The dollar rose Thursday after Japan and Switzerland moved to weaken their currencies. The yen and Swiss franc surged recently as investors worried about slowing economies in Europe and the U.S., and sought so-called "safe haven" currencies. As the currencies of those countries strengthened, their goods became more expensive in overseas markets. Switzerland's central bank took steps Wednesday to curb the value of the franc, while the Japanese did the same for the yen on Thursday.

Energy prices fell across the board on Thursday. The Energy Department's Energy Information Administration said in its weekly report that natural gas held in underground storage grew by 44 billion cubic feet. Analysts had expected an increase of between 34 billion and 38 billion cubic feet. Natural gas plunged after the report, losing nearly 15 cents to settle at $3.941 per 1,000 cubic feet.

In other Nymex trading for September contracts, heating oil fell 12.5 cents to settle at $2.8939 per gallon and gasoline futures gave up 19.41 cents to settle at $2.7372 per gallon.
 
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