Exotic Pets

[Windsor]

Hannor. Somemore you can sort of do this as a part time thing. Earn some small income. Something harmless like some turtles. Let's say a trader knows of demand for some turtles for eg. Now he cannot possibly breed all of them by himself and the chances of him getting caught are bigger. So he outsources it to other ppl to help him breed.


Thanks to windor and drifter for the info i guess i'll just need to get a bunch of these turtles to breed and then raise the little critters myself. Anyone need help breeding something. Reptiless or fish?

No one will give you their valuable animals to breed unless they know you personally. They would also have to know your general knowledge about that particular animal before passing them over. Without any knowledge the animals might die under your care.

I have dealt with lots of hobbyists who are really good and those that are bad. You need to specialise if you intend to do this as you cannot be good in every animal husbandry. I suppose you know something about fish and tortoises. You cannot say I will breed these animals for you for the following reasons:

- You may not know how to take care of them.
- You may not have the space
- You may not have the equipment
- You may not have the knowledge of the conditions that will encourage them to breed
- There are costs involved like food and accessories

In short, this idea of yours may not work at all. It would be better for you to buy your heart's desire and be good at what you you do. Just ensure it will not be something that makes you lose money in the process

 

[drifter]

By not allowing Singaporeans to keep exotic animals, AVA believe they are doing the world a favour. Our neighbours with much more wild animals are not that concerned. These exotics are not taken in from the wild but had been bred from breeders and morphed into beautiful animals. Most of these exotics cannot be found except in their normal state in the wild. Singaporeans unlike most other hobbyists from our neighbouring countries and the rest of the world are enjoying having them. On the other hand Singaporeans are ignorant that such exotics even exist and that this industry is thriving despite our AVA.

The best part is that they are allowing RWS to bring in wild dolphins to put up shows here. There is a double standard being practised by AVA mainly because of money and attracting visitors to Singapore. If they are sincere about not allowing exotic pets, then these dolphins should not be allowed into Singapore. Unlike the zoo and Underwater World, putting dolphins om display is not educational at all and of no benefit to the citizens. It only benefit RWS and those who stand to gain from such policy.

To say, these animals will be release into the wild is not true. Who in their right mind will want to release a $10,000 snake into the forest? Only cheap $10.00 animals may be release and already hamsters, alligator gars and other cheap animals have already been seen in the forest, parks and reservoirs. So what has AVA done about it?

good morning bro , bro look at the bright side ...AVA have help those backyard breeder in singapore to earn more money ...if it was legal ..the price of exotic pets in singapore will be cheaper then japan , US , Malaysia ...ect AVA IS doing those backyard breeders in singapore to make more money must thanks to AVA

 

[drifter]

How to get these eggs? How do u become 1st time breeder here?

bro..why you keep asking for eggs ? theres no short-cut in breeding ...if you really want to be a breeder ...read more about the reptiles you want to breed and go and get a pair of adults ....breeders dont buy eggs ...we buy adult breeding pairs ...

 

[drifter]

Hannor. Somemore you can sort of do this as a part time thing. Earn some small income. Something harmless like some turtles. Let's say a trader knows of demand for some turtles for eg. Now he cannot possibly breed all of them by himself and the chances of him getting caught are bigger. So he outsources it to other ppl to help him breed.


Thanks to windor and drifter for the info i guess i'll just need to get a bunch of these turtles to breed and then raise the little critters myself. Anyone need help breeding something. Reptiless or fish?

bro...nobody will outsources to another ppl to help him breed ...why ?

1) the risk is too high for that " someone " if he help you to breed ( because of AVA )

2) that person might not know how to breed ..

3) even that person know how to breed , he would have breed it himself...why help others to earn more money ?

4 ) ppl who breeds exotics is not only for money , they enjoy the breeding process ...

 

[Windsor]

good morning bro , bro look at the bright side ...AVA have help those backyard breeder in singapore to earn more money ...if it was legal ..the price of exotic pets in singapore will be cheaper then japan , US , Malaysia ...ect AVA IS doing those backyard breeders in singapore to make more money must thanks to AVA

Hi Bro...that is food for thought. If there are breeders here in Singapore, then there should be a market. With import restrictions I doubt this is possible. Not everyone want to buy what a Singaporean is breeding, preferring to buy overseas and that means illegal import, which is very dicey and may not be worth the trouble. Only really big time players in this business will have the right connections to be able to get them here, and nothing is impossible.

 

[drifter]

Hi Bro...that is food for thought. If there are breeders here in Singapore, then there should be a market. With import restrictions I doubt this is possible. Not everyone want to buy what a Singaporean is breeding, preferring to buy overseas and that means illegal import, which is very dicey and may not be worth the trouble. Only really big time players in this business will have the right connections to be able to get them here, and nothing is impossible.

bro...ok ..its time to let you guys know how the exotic pet trade work in singapore .. there a few guys ( big player ) in singapore are importing exotic pet ...they then sell to dealers ...the dealers will sell to customers , shops ...of course theres also hobbyists trying to bring in their own ( usually in small quantity) ...with todays internet ..almost everyone know where to find exotic pet . if a certain species is popular and rare among hobbyist ....hobbyist they themselves will try breeding them ...and sell to the local market ( some to the extent export to malaysia , US, japan ....ect . bro , singapore reptiles market is huge ....trust me ...and the profit is better then anywhere else in the world ..

 

[karmabear]

Aiyoh, bro drifter... your initial post say breeding reptiles is so profitable, of course people will be gian lah. Lucky i got rear animals before so I know its not an easy job hehehehe. If u dun like, better dun do. Actually if you wanna make easy money with minimum work, best to be a runner for illegal 4D, rent out your name for people wanting to exceed foreign work quota... of course got some risk lah, same as breeding reptiles in Singapore.

Incidentally, my research indicate that star tortoise now retailing for RM350 for 2 inch in malaysia, if you can get. According to them, the enforcement quite strict. KNNBCCB, early dun catch, late dun catch, must be when I want to buy, then catch. Long time ago, when i saw star tortoise selling for $40 each, i never buy... now regret :(

 

[Windsor]

Aiyoh, bro drifter... your initial post say breeding reptiles is so profitable, of course people will be gian lah. Lucky i got rear animals before so I know its not an easy job hehehehe. If u dun like, better dun do. Actually if you wanna make easy money with minimum work, best to be a runner for illegal 4D, rent out your name for people wanting to exceed foreign work quota... of course got some risk lah, same as breeding reptiles in Singapore.

Incidentally, my research indicate that star tortoise now retailing for RM350 for 2 inch in malaysia, if you can get. According to them, the enforcement quite strict. KNNBCCB, early dun catch, late dun catch, must be when I want to buy, then catch. Long time ago, when i saw star tortoise selling for $40 each, i never buy... now regret :(

What you propose in your first paragraph is illegal work and not illegal pleasure:(

Why do that if you have a secure job and if you want extra income, there are legal ways, like volunteer to be letter writer for MPs during Meet The People Session, or doing some other part time job.

The other paragraph, there are ways and means with the right connections. You have to think out of the box turtle

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

bro..why you keep asking for eggs ? theres no short-cut in breeding ...if you really want to be a breeder ...read more about the reptiles you want to breed and go and get a pair of adults ....breeders dont buy eggs ...we buy adult breeding pairs ...

Got it so how do i buy those breeding pairs?


I guess breeding for first timers and part timers is like the bazaar section of online selling correct? Need to ownself publish.

With a bit of reading i can gain knowledge how to raise them but still i would need contacts to buy the breeding pair and of course to sell them.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Like this better to just grow legal fish like open a farm for eg and then sell to local shops. Like common gold fish, fighting fish etc.

 

[Windsor]

Like this better to just grow legal fish like open a farm for eg and then sell to local shops. Like common gold fish, fighting fish etc.

It is a long hard road and will require some investments on your part. Aquaculture is a good business as food is getting more expensive. Look at this video to learn something about it:

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[drifter]

Aiyoh, bro drifter... your initial post say breeding reptiles is so profitable, of course people will be gian lah. Lucky i got rear animals before so I know its not an easy job hehehehe. If u dun like, better dun do. Actually if you wanna make easy money with minimum work, best to be a runner for illegal 4D, rent out your name for people wanting to exceed foreign work quota... of course got some risk lah, same as breeding reptiles in Singapore.

Incidentally, my research indicate that star tortoise now retailing for RM350 for 2 inch in malaysia, if you can get. According to them, the enforcement quite strict. KNNBCCB, early dun catch, late dun catch, must be when I want to buy, then catch. Long time ago, when i saw star tortoise selling for $40 each, i never buy... now regret :(

bro...i thought this thread is created for the exotic pets lovers to share their passion of animals ? and not for business ? anyway , all business can make money if you know how to do ...even garang guni man can make money ...
over in japan , garang guni man can make millions per year why ? because in japan if you want to throw big item like electronics , cars ( yes , cars ) ...furniture ...ect you have to pay garang guni man money ...its not like singapore , suka suka throw under the void deck ..those garang guni will then sell those trash to third world country ( alot of trashs are still in working conditions , including cars ) grang guni man is making tons of money in japan ...

keeping reptiles is like holding a stock ..you never know when is the pet you keep at home going to be banned .. if they banned it ...then the price will increase ....by the way there are 2 types of star tortoise ..one is indian star another is burmese star ...to those who are new to the trade cant tell the differents ... burmese star is alot more expensive then indian star ...

 

[drifter]

Got it so how do i buy those breeding pairs?


I guess breeding for first timers and part timers is like the bazaar section of online selling correct? Need to ownself publish.

With a bit of reading i can gain knowledge how to raise them but still i would need contacts to buy the breeding pair and of course to sell them.

go to the net ...theres alot of ppl trading there ...but most of them are in malaysia ( malaysia is much more cheaper then singapore , unless you are willing to take risk at the custom ) ...but there are few places in singapore that sell it ...too but its not cheap .

 

[drifter]

Like this better to just grow legal fish like open a farm for eg and then sell to local shops. Like common gold fish, fighting fish etc.

well you can ...but theres almost no profit breeding common stuff ..unless you are breeding high end fishes like the runchu , betta arowana ..ect .. but breeding arowana in captivity is not easy they dont breed in fish tank thats why arowana are expensive ...if its so easy then everyone will be rich ..or that animals become no value

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

well you can ...but theres almost no profit breeding common stuff ..unless you are breeding high end fishes like the runchu , betta arowana ..ect .. but breeding arowana in captivity is not easy they dont breed in fish tank thats why arowana are expensive ...if its so easy then everyone will be rich ..or that animals become no value

My dad used to keep arrowanas but didn't breed them. I think all were male i don't know. They even ate centipedes.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

go to the net ...theres alot of ppl trading there ...but most of them are in malaysia ( malaysia is much more cheaper then singapore , unless you are willing to take risk at the custom ) ...but there are few places in singapore that sell it ...too but its not cheap .

well if that's the case then i won't be making money. I won't be going to malaysia too, seems like i'll be losing money instead.

Btw drifter bro i'm sure the ppl making money are those with the contacts and not those that are putting up advertisements on the net.

 

[drifter]

to all exotic pet lovers out there ...theres a reptiles expo in hongkong 16-18 july at star city convention ...most of the famous breeders around the world will be there to sell their " babies " .

 

[drifter]

My dad used to keep arrowanas but didn't breed them. I think all were male i don't know. They even ate centipedes.

even if your father got a adult pair ...its impossible to breed them in a fish tank

 

[drifter]

well if that's the case then i won't be making money. I won't be going to malaysia too, seems like i'll be losing money instead.

Btw drifter bro i'm sure the ppl making money are those with the contacts and not those that are putting up advertisements on the net.

bro..those putting up advertisement in those free ad ..are all small time backyard breeders and hobbyist . bro ask yourself ...you breed because of money or passion for those animals ..if it just money , i dont think you should breed them ...

 

[Windsor]

My dad used to keep arrowanas but didn't breed them. I think all were male i don't know. They even ate centipedes.

Aros are one of the better fishes to have and to breed. You can buy several as males and females are hard to identify. Ponds in Singapore are for hire to put them in and to breed but the cost is an investment. If you cannot succeed it will be a pain but if you succeed the gains are good.

Aros feed on feeder fish, MPs (market prawns) and centipedes and other insects. Of course your Dad is keeping them as a hobby only so in glass aquariums they will not breed at all. They need privacy and large spaces to get them to breed. You can visit the Aro farms in Singapore and watch videos to know more about it.