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iOS vs. Android: Lots of stats, little clarity
Harry McCracken
by Harry McCracken November 14, 2011 6:00 AM PST

Looking at an array of numbers about how Apple and Google are doing in the mobile market is fascinating--but the more data you consider, the murkier things get.

Who's winning the mobile wars--Apple's iOS or Google's Android?

It's a question that's on the minds of plenty of tech-obsessed folks' minds. But it's one that's very hard to answer--especially if you're trying to be objective rather than grasping for evidence that conveniently supports the mobile operating system you happen to be rooting for.

There are lots of metrics you can use to compare the two platforms, with new factoids arriving daily--some of them direct from Apple and Google, but more from research firms and other third parties. I decided to gather some recent competitive numbers to see if considering all of them at once helped to clarify the competitive situation.

Here they are:
Apple's iPhone 4S and Motorola's Droid Bionic.

Apple's iPhone 4S and Motorola's Droid Bionic.
(Credit: Apple, Motorola)

Total devices in the field. At Apple's iPhone 4S launch event on October 4th, CEO Tim Cook said that the company had sold 250 million iOS devices to date--including iPhones, iPod Touches, iPads, and (I assume) current-generation Apple TVs. Shortly thereafter, Google CEO Larry Page said that 190 million Android devices had been "activated." (Google talks about units in terms of activations, not sales.)

The first iPhone went on sale 16 months before the first Android phone, so iOS had a head start--but according to these numbers, the handful of models that Apple has released to date have still managed to outsell hundreds of Android-based gadgets.

New devices sold daily. I don't believe either Apple or Google has released information on this recently. But as of the second calendar quarter of 2011, Apple was selling around 367,000 iOS devices a day. And in June, Android honcho Andy Rubin said a half-million Android devices were being activated each day. Both figures are presumably significantly different now.

Total smartphone ownership. Comscore says that as of August, 43.7 percent of U.S. smartphone subscribers had an Android device; 27.7 percent had an iPhone. These figures don't include tablets (a category which the iPad utterly dominates) and smartphone-like media devices (a category in which the iPod Touch has almost no competition whatsoever).

Tablet sales. Research firm Strategy Analytics reported last month that the iPad had 66.6 percent of the tablet market and Android tablets had grown to 26.9 percent. But as Kevin C. Tofel of GigaOM noted, that mixes iPads that Apple has sold with Android tablets that have shipped from the manufacturer but may or may not have been bought by a consumer. If any of those Androids are sitting on store shelves, they shouldn't be compared against iPads that people have paid for and taken home.

Web usage. In August, according to Comscore, iOS devices accounted for 58.5 percent of all U.S. non-computer browser page views. Android accounted for 31.9 percent of views.

Available apps. There are more than 500,000 iOS apps, including 140,000 designed for the iPad. There are more than 250,000 Android apps, and while I haven't seen any recent data on how many are customized for Android 4.0 3.0 Honeycomb, the tablet version, I've never seen a number that was anything but tiny.

App downloads. Research firm ABI says that in the second quarter, Android overtook iOS in mobile app downloads and now has 44 percent share worldwide vs. 31 percent for iOS. On the other hand, it says that iOS beats Android in terms of downloads per user by 2-to-1. And it states that Android's installed base beats iOS's by 2.4-to-1. (How does Android besting iOS by 2.4-to-1 jibe with Apple claiming to have told 250 million iOS products and Google saying it's activated only 190 million Android ones? Beats me! Maybe ABI isn't counting iPads and/or iPod Touches.)

Profits. Canaccord Genuity says that Apple is currently scooping up 52 percent of all smartphone profits, leaving 48 percent for everyone else. Determining Google's profits from Android smartphones would be particularly gnarly, since it gives away Android. (It does, however, get to display ads on Android devices.)

Conclusions from all this? I have a few, although they're not all that conclusive:

Beware of comparing, well, apples and oranges. Contrasting the number of iPads sold with the number of Android tablets shipped seems pointless. And I'm still not sure if anyone understands the distinction between iOS devices sold and Android devices "activated."

Don't take third-party estimates as gospel. I'm not saying they can't be informative--just that you usually don't know enough about how methodical and meticulous any particular study is. The mere fact that numbers from different research firms are never identical proves that someone is wrong.

Things are moving fast. What I'd really like to know is the state of competition between iOS and Android as of mid-November 2011--based on hard numbers provided by Apple and Google. But the most recent stats are weeks or months old in most cases; both companies disclose information when they think it's to their advantage to do so, and stay mum when there seems to be no benefit in sharing anything. The data we have could be meaningfully behind the current state of affairs.

Trends matter more than any one moment in time. The numbers I've quoted here are freeze frames, but the Business Insider's Henry Blodget--a long time advocate of the notion that Android will come to dominate the market--has some graphs that show Google's operating system gaining on Apple's in some categories

Ultimately, you've got to choose a bottom-line number. Is the most successful mobile platform the one that's moving the most units right now? Fair enough, and that might be Android. Is it the one that's racking up the biggest profits? That sounds most logical to me--and that platform seems to be iOS.

Me, I love competition. Rather than hoping that iOS will fend off Android or that Android will trump iOS, I'd love to see them both thrive. That's what they're doing now. And if they're both still flourishing in a few years, it'll be great for consumers--and a strikingly different outcome from the PC wars of the 1980s and 1990s, which saw Microsoft decisively trounce Apple. Here's hoping.
 
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On Monday, marketing firm ABI Research released a study which showed that Android app downloads have overtaken those of iOS. Of all mobile apps downloaded in the second quarter of 2011, 44 percent were Android while only 31 percent were iOS.

In a press release, an ABI research associate chalked this up to to the fact that Android platform is open, allowing any developer to create and distribute any app:

Being a free platform has expanded the Android device install base, which in turn has driven growth in the number of third party multi-platform and mobile operator app stores. These conditions alone explain why Android is the new leader in the mobile application market.

In addition, Android phones are finding their way into the hands of more and more users, therefore it's not a huge surprise that more Android apps are being downloaded. According to comScore's August report on mobile market share, almost 44 percent of smartphone owners have Android phones while 27 percent have iPhones. These numbers closely resemble ABI's percentages for Android and iOS app market share.

The ABI study nods to the disparity between the number of Android and iOS supporting handsets. According to their report, iPhone shipments decreased by 6 percent in the second quarter, while Android shipments increased 16 percent. Apple expects next quarter's iPhone sales to be much higher and has speculated that the drop in iPhone shipments was probably partly due to consumers holding off on buying new phone until the iPhone 4S came out.

While fewer people have iPhones, they download more apps each than Android users do. In fact, Apple is beating Android 2-to-1 in terms of app downloads per user. The ABI report attributes this to, "Apple's superior monetization policies attracted good developers within its ranks, thus creating a better catalog of apps and customer experience."

Business Insider writes that this distinction is important for Apple because it means developers will continue working with them even though Android has more users, "For now, developers are still happier with iOS despite the smaller user base and smaller number of total downloads."

Even though it's easier for developers to get apps into the Android Market, at least some of them prefer Apple's strict vetting process that keeps bad apps out. In an interview with The Huffington Post, one developer said that the quality of apps on the Android Market was "pathetically low." Which may be why the ABI report found that the number of app downloads per iOS user was twice as high as that of Android users.

While Android may be dominating the smartphone market in terms of units sold and apps downloaded, Apple is the clear winner when it comes to tablets. According to Mashable, Apple's tablet market share as of April 2011 was around 83 percent. While some report that sales of Android tablets have started to catch up with Apple's iPad sales, PC World thinks Android's tablet numbers are being inflated by "shaky math" and clever semantics. While Apple usually reports tablet figures in terms of how many have been sold, Android often talks in terms of how many are shipped. It sounds impressive to say 250,000 tablets have been shipped, but not if 95 percent of them are sitting in a warehouse somewhere unable to be sold.
 
Base Software is going to be open source FOC like Android most likely. Hardware don't have to be expensive. The issue is not how Mozilla can lower the cost but it is actually Apple had been ripping people off too lucratively. If you are a manufacturer you can easily see that there is indeed a 10X room for competitive price cut.

;)

It is already a very cost effective single chip solution, all in except memory, battery,touch screen, speaker + mic + COMS camera, sensors. All are dirt cheap mass produced items. Actually just quite low-tech products all of them. Should not cost more than 1/20 of what Apple ripped off from customers. :)


Talk easy. 1/10 of the price. Even at half price is very good if they still make profit.
Just like laptop $100 few year ago never really hit off.
 
Talk easy. 1/10 of the price. Even at half price is very good if they still make profit.
Just like laptop $100 few year ago never really hit off.

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This was the exposed cost in 2010. They have dropped significantly now, and will be even lower in future.;)

I can expect the touch screen to be halved with newer products & technologies. On board flash only needs to be 8GB, while it is dirt cheap to add 2 instead of 1 micro-SD card slots to let users add up to 128GB of removable memories. 256GB possible when higher density cards hits market.

The silicon will integrate into a single chip or MCM even DRAM may be die bonded on the same SMT chip. Saving costs. RF modules will be well integrated as well (wifi GSM GPS bluetooth).

Currently as seen on that BOM Apple is NOT efficient and they are gluing up too many chips from too many makers. An effective manufacture should license all the necessary libraries and compile own single chip ASIC and even mix digital and analog as much as possible. Centralise the DSP with multi-core processors.

I must also say that the so called expert made huge mistakes in that BOM in categorising items. How can Intel DRAM $2.70 be classified under Radio Frequency? What a joke?

That Samsung NAND flash @ US$27 for 16G is very old price, 8G is more than enough on board. Provide Micro-SD sockets for users to pop in and out their own memories. Will fall to US$5 for 8G or lower.
 
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We all know the price. At 1/10 is $20. So can anyone really do it even at 1/3.
 
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