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Evergrande wooed retail investors with Gucci bags and Dyson appliances

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Lured by the promise of yields approaching 12%, gifts such as Dyson air purifiers and Gucci bags, and the guarantee of China's top-selling developer, tens of thousands of investors bought wealth management products through China Evergrande Group.


Now, many fear they may never get their investments back after the cash-strapped property developer recently stopped repaying some investors and set off global alarm bells over its massive debt.


Some have been protesting at Evergrande offices, refusing to accept the company's plan to provide payment with discounted apartments, offices, stores and parking units, which it began to implement on Saturday.


"I bought from the property managers after seeing the ad in the elevator, as I trusted Evergrande for being a Fortune Global 500 company,” said the owner of an Evergrande property in the conglomerate's home province of Guangdong surnamed Du.


"It's immoral of Evergrande not to pay my hard-earned money back," said the investor, who had put 650,000 yuan ($100,533) into Evergrande wealth management products (WMPs) last year at an interest rate of more than 7%.


More than 80,000 people – including employees, their families and friends as well as owners of Evergrande properties - bought WMPs that raised more than 100 billion yuan in the past five years, said a sales manager of Evergrande Wealth, launched in 2016 as a peer-to-peer (P2) online lending platform that originally was used to fund its property projects.

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Why Is Everyone Talking About Evergrande?​

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Contributors: Alex Millson and Sofia Horta E Costa
Updated on September 21, 6:51 PM EDT

What You Need To Know​

Evergrande is the biggest financial worry in China right now, and it’s fast becoming a problem outside of the nation’s borders. In a nutshell, the giant real estate developer is $300 billion in debt and widely expected to default on bond payments. The group owns 1,300 projects in more than 280 cities. But its reach goes way beyond building homes. Its billionaire owner Hui Ka Yan has his fingers in pies from electric vehicles, to media production, to mineral water and soccer.
The company’s woes started in 2020, when Evergrande reportedly sent a letter to the provincial government of Guangdong, warning officials of a potential liquidity crisis. Evergrande later disputed the letter’s authenticity and eventually crisis was averted when a group of investors waived their right to force a $13 billion repayment. But there’s plenty of debt still coming due and ratings agencies see default on the cards.
So what could save Evergrande from its downward spiral? In short, Beijing. And now investors around the world are holding their collective breath to see whether the government will step in and offer a bailout, or demand a restructure of the company. Or whether it will let fate run its course and risk Evergrande’s collapse and all the chaos that could bring.

Key Coverage​

By The Numbers​

  • 2 trillion yuanThe amount Evergrande has in assets, equivalent to 2% of China's GDP, according to Goldman Sachs.
  • 3 red linesMetrics the government says developers have to meet if they want to borrow more.
  • 1.4 millionThe number of individual properties Evergrande was committed to building as of the end of June.

Why It Matters​

Bondholders, stock investors and rating agencies predict an Evergrande default and say a debt restructuring is almost inevitable. Shockwaves are already being felt across global stock markets, triggering losses even in companies with no clear link to China or property. But authorities in Beijing are expected to engineer a resolution, rather than allow a chaotic collapse into bankruptcy.
The state runs most of the banks and can exert pressure on creditors, suppliers and other counterparties, keeping systemic risk to a minimum. While Evergrande investors would recover only a small portion of their money, the company’s operations would remain protected and unfinished properties would be delivered to their owners.
An uncontrolled downward spiral, on the other hand, could prove catastrophic for China’s economy, one of the major engines of global growth. Aggressive controls to curb outbreaks of Covid-19 are already hurting retail spending and travel in China, while measures to cool home prices are taking a toll. A correction in China’s property market, which comprises 28% of China’s economy and 40% of household assets, poses a risk to social stability.



In a worst-case scenario, Evergrande-related stress spreads across the world’s financial system and freezes the global credit market. That would be China’s Lehman moment, risking a repeat of the global financial crisis and dragging the global economy down with it. Think a real estate crash, surging unemployment, lower wages and protracted economic recessions. China has a lot of tools to prevent that, of course, and much of Wall Street believes Beijing will use them if necessary.
Bloomberg
Evergrande Gives China an Impossible Equation to Solve
The developer’s biggest problem is that its working capital is tied to a massive inventory, largely composed of unfinished projects. Empty parking lots, anyone?
Shuli Ren

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since dyson moved hq to stinkypura as stinkypura is an infamous tax evasion and money laundering hub under the watchful eyes of eunuch loong and his one party state apparatus, the other bunch of eunuchs handling day to day affairs for the eunuch in chief

it means the eunuchs must have obtained a cut of the profits made by dyson too
 

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winners

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since dyson moved hq to stinkypura as stinkypura is an infamous tax evasion and money laundering hub under the watchful eyes of eunuch loong and his one party state apparatus, the other bunch of eunuchs handling day to day affairs for the eunuch in chief

it means the eunuchs must have obtained a cut of the profits made by dyson too
Again you fucking bastard, writing your own assumption and nonsensical conclusion again. What cock are you talking? Please don't make forumers here laughing uncontrollably at all your silly posts. You may talk to yourself in private over as such, but don't ever make a big fool of yourself here in this forum. Forumers here aren't as stupid as you because they don't have m&d inside their brains, unlike you, MUDhatter. LOL.
 
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maxsanic

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The usual make big money then yaya papaya but lose money "we are all innocent investors who got cheated" charade.
 

mudhatter

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Again you fucking bastard, writing your own assumption and nonsensical conclusion again. What cock are you talking? Please don't make forumers here laughing uncontrollably at all your silly posts. You may talk to yourself in private over as such, but don't ever make a big fool of yourself here in this forum. Forumers here aren't as stupid as you because they don't have m&d inside their brains, unlike you, MUDhatter. LOL.

instead of babbling a load of garbage trying to cast me in negative light since i owned you repeated in other threads,

you could have tried sharing your pearls of wisdom if you had any

or at least, you could share whatever your single digit IQ brain could conjure up as a possible explanation for the move described
maybe that'd be your two cent's worth

not mine
not anybody with 3 digits worth of IQ

a moron who believes anybody uses their real name on this forum

goes to show once again
not only are you a single digit IQ chink down's syndrome nitwit
but also a loser going by your handle here


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winners

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instead of babbling a load of garbage trying to cast me in negative light since i owned you repeated in other threads,

you could have tried sharing your pearls of wisdom if you had any
Please don't try to conjure your credibility here. It won't work. If you have nothing feasible nor knowledgeable to contribute, it's better that you remain silent, rather than to spew your nonsense here and to further reveal your own stupidity. Understand.
 

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I'm sure we'll see similar things happening in Stinkapore since many tiong property developers here. Good luck to all those speculative buyers. You will have plenty of high-rise buildings to choose from to jump off.
 
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