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Chitchat Even Vietnam is leaning towards America. China can go eat shit and die!

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U.S. aircraft carrier to visit Vietnam in post-war first

HANOI (Reuters) - In a post-war first, the United States is poised to send an aircraft carrier to Vietnam in March, officials of both sides said on Thursday, dramatic evidence of deepening military ties between them, more than four decades after the Vietnam War.

The announcement came during a two-day visit to Hanoi by U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis that had been expected to focus on shared concerns about China.

The proposed visit is set for March at the central port of Danang, Vietnam’s defence ministry said in a statement. Such a visit by a U.S. aircraft carrier could bring the most U.S. forces to Vietnam since the conflict ended in 1975.

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Mattis cheered the planned port visit during talks with Nguyen Phu Trong, the general secretary of the ruling Communist Party of Vietnam.

“Thank you for the increasing partnership, with our aircraft carrier coming into Danang here in March,” Mattis said.

Captain Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, confirmed the carrier visit was discussed by Mattis and Defence Minister Ngo Xuan Lich, and Vietnam’s defence ministry was seeking final approvals from national leaders.

“We expect it will be approved,” Davis said.

The arrival of a U.S. aircraft carrier in Vietnam will be welcomed by an emerging network of countries that are nervously eyeing China’s military rise, particularly its assertive stance and island-building activities in the South China Sea.

The busy waterway is a vital global trade route linking Northeast Asia with the Middle East and Europe.
 

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America can not even cover it's own bleeding ass from Kim Jong Nuke, screaming whole world for rescue.

Who can America help? Bankrupt and shutdown own govt before just 1 yr anniversary of Dotard office.

Owe huge debt highest in the world to Chinese.

Vietnam Red Dot any coward go USA only got ripped off sold EXPENSIVE & USELESS WEAPONS and die together with Dotard.

Vietnam Kow Tow to Beijing just Lan Lan or else be beaten crippled again just like in 1979
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

Vietnamese estimate: 62,000 casualties, including 26,000 deaths.[13][14]
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420 Tanks/APCs destroyed[1]
66 Heavy Mortars & Guns destroyed[1


1974 Viet Cong got captured POW and sank warshiip at SCS also dozen killed and injured
 
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The Vietnamese are the most conniving people in South East Asia. in the last 100 years they have allied with the Communists to oust the French, then allied with the Chinese to fight the Americans, then sided with Soviets to fight Chinese. so they've just come full circle by siding the Americans against Chinese. Will be interesting to see what will be their next move
 

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Leaning toward is meaningless no significant. Win / Lose is the significant. Lean toward the loser meaning lose together.

The choice is only with the winner. And winner can reject useless losers leaning towards itself. So all the losers can lean together and die together.
 

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Chinese had saved Vietnam's Ass from America, under the bombings of B-52. And Vietnam want to Kuai Lan like a bully after that. So Vietnam got whacked by China later.

America can not save Vietnam from China's whack, it dare not even try. Enough GI had died and lost limbs and eyeballs and teeth. MIA countless. Want to try again? Hahahahaha!
 

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shiok! more viet hookers in sg will return to ho cheebye minh old saigon to ply their trade. it will make hanoi too a hooker hub. vietnam will sexperience a booming and banging economy again.
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vietnam history is full of struggles and perservance; vietnamese are probably the most resilient people in this world.

In 1700; they defeated the fucking tiongs, who had occupied vietnam for more than a thousand years...

in 1954; they defeated the fucking french and sent them home

in 1973, the Vietnam war ended; this is a year; the fucking yankees will never want to remember

Don't fuck around with the vietnamese
 

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vietnam history is full of struggles and perservance; vietnamese are probably the most resilient people in this world.

In 1700; they defeated the fucking tiongs, who had occupied vietnam for more than a thousand years...

in 1954; they defeated the fucking french and sent them home

in 1973, the Vietnam war ended; this is a year; the fucking yankees will never want to remember

Don't fuck around with the vietnamese

The tiongs make hopeless occupiers and colonizers. They were in Vietnam for a thousand years, and the local populace still did not assimilate and become chinks. The Arabs assimilated the locals in mesopotamia within 100-200 years of islamic rule.

I would be glad to see the US carriers launch military sorties against chinkland from Vietnamese territories.
 

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Countries would rather choose US than PRC if it comes to an ultimatum, Uncle Sam is a nicer person than Ah Tiong when it comes to a choice between friends. China will have to compete against India for International/Global friends.

Cheers!
 

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Countries would rather choose US than PRC if it comes to an ultimatum, Uncle Sam is a nicer person than Ah Tiong when it comes to a choice between friends. China will have to compete against India for International/Global friends.

Cheers!



World game is ELIMINATION not free choice.

I used to think Saddam's claimed electoral result 100% vote for him was joke. But compare with ISIS and today, I really think 100% will still prefer Saddam, when Iraq was STABLE & OIL RICH.

Where is Saddam now?

Eliminated!

All voters are idiots who dream they could get something by casting ballots, my ball! This world you could fight to your death to get something that is very lucky, you could get nothing or lose everything, when you don't raise arms and fight. America just like Saddam can be eliminated. Kim Jong Nuke can fire 20 H-Bomb, just 5 reached there, enough for USA. Won't be USA any more.
 

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The tiongs make hopeless occupiers and colonizers. They were in Vietnam for a thousand years, and the local populace still did not assimilate and become chinks. The Arabs assimilated the locals in mesopotamia within 100-200 years of islamic rule.
I would be glad to see the US carriers launch military sorties against chinkland from Vietnamese territories.

you are just a hypocrite like the americunts.

in 2016 late August near the Strait of Hormuz a small patrol boats from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
intercepted
and continued to sail within a few hundred yards of a U.S. destroyer, the USS Nitze.
The Nitze responded by firing warning shots.
U.S. officials immediately condemned the incident as a terrible provocation, a theme that members of the
American media
obediently echoed. No one seemed to question why it was not provocative for the United States
to sail a heavily armed destroyer (along with other warships) six thousand miles away from the American
homeland to operate within a few miles of the Iranian coast.
Yet Iran’s interception of that warship was automatically deemed provocative.

the assumption that whatever the United States does militarily in the international arena
is not only acceptable, but should be beyond challenge or criticism.

Washington and its compliant allies had every right to enforce a no-fly zone to influence the
outcome of the internecine conflict in Bosnia in the 1990s.

United States had every right to impose similar restrictions in Iraq. When Serbian leaders and
Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein resisted such measures, they were the ones escalating the crises.
We see similar logic today as the United States meddles in Syria’s civil war.
American hawks consider Russia’s intervention as outrageous and an indication of odious motives,
even though Syria is barely six hundred miles from the southern Russian border, and the governing
Assads have been Russian political clients for decades.

Throughout the American media, as well as the political and foreign-policy communities, Moscow’s military
intrusion in Syria is considered utterly illegitimate. And yet America’s intervention from six thousand miles away
is widely viewed as not only proper but inescapable, for both strategic and moral reasons.

The attitude that no U.S. military action is ever provocative emerges even when U.S. forces are operating in
the immediate security environs of other major powers. Thus, the Navy’s so-called freedom-of-navigation patrols
in the South China Sea, thousands of miles from the American homeland, are portrayed as perfectly normal.
Chinese naval and air operations countering those patrols are, of course, dangerous, provocative and unacceptable.
That is the case even though the South China Sea is a lot closer to China than it is to the United States.

A similar double standard is evident regarding deployments involving U.S. and Russian warships in both
the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. There are frequent U.S. complaints that Russian ships or aircraft have
harassed American vessels
. There is never any apparent awareness that Moscow might legitimately consider
having U.S. military operations in waters so close to Russia as a security threat.
Indeed, Obama administration officials summarily dismiss Moscow’s concerns and objections.

Yet all we would need to do in the cases of Iran, China and Russia is engage in a basic thought exercise.
How would the United States respond if the naval forces of another power sailed uninvited into waters
close to U.S. territorial waters—and did so repeatedly despite Washington’s objections?
It is unlikely that either U.S. officials or the American people would consider it a friendly act.
Imagine the reaction, for example, if a fleet of Chinese warships routinely conducted ongoing
“freedom of navigation” exercises in the Gulf of Mexico. Likewise, it is difficult to contemplate
Americans remaining indifferent to the sight of Russian destroyers and cruisers in the waters off Cape Cod.
 

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Even Indonesia is leaning towards America. Left stupid Duterte still sucking Xi Jinping's balls.

Mattis Got A Kick Out Of Indonesian Soldiers Drinking Snake Blood During Bizarre Display

In what was surely a "unique" departure ceremony for visiting U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Indonesian Special Forces, known locally as the Kopassus, put on quite a display. During the over-the-top exhibition the fatigue-clad operators showed off some of their unique skills, including breaking concrete blocks with their heads and wrangling snakes, killing them, and drinking their blood.

Clips of the intense spectacle started making the rounds on the social media last evening, resulting in an interesting mix of reactions. But for the guest of honor, the spectacle was all in good taste.








 

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INDONESIA RECEIVES FIRST AH-64E APACHE GUARDIAN ATTACK HELICOPTER

The Indonesian Army (Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat: TNI-AD) took delivery of its first three Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopters from the U.S. on December 18.

Indonesia sought eight AH-64E in 2012 in a $1.42 billion U.S. deal that includes 140 AGM-114R3 Hellfire II anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM), 19 General Electric T-700-GE-701D turboshaft engines, training, spare parts and logistical support.

The AH-64E is the latest variant of the Apache, a heavyweight attack helicopter platform capable of anti-armour and anti-infantry operations. It is the mainstay attack helicopter of the U.S. Army as well as the U.K., Saudi Arabia, the Netherlands, Israel and others.
 

kryonlight

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The attitude that no U.S. military action is ever provocative emerges even when U.S. forces are operating in
the immediate security environs of other major powers. Thus, the Navy’s so-called freedom-of-navigation patrols
in the South China Sea, thousands of miles from the American homeland, are portrayed as perfectly normal.
Chinese naval and air operations countering those patrols are, of course, dangerous, provocative and unacceptable.
That is the case even though the South China Sea is a lot closer to China than it is to the United States.

Your brain is rotten! South China Sea does not belong to Fake China. Fake China is illegally occupying those islands.
 

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Indonesian Minister recently highly praised Chinese government and policies while being invited to India to watch Ah Neh Wayang showing their Ah-Neh Army clown circus.

China is very happy that ASEAN began to Kow Tow, fearing USA would soon flee with it's tail between own legs.

You can desperately hope to grab final straw on the sinking ex-superpower but you can help seeing everything turned against your expectation, and your hopes all shattered, your despair increasing daily.



https://cn.nytimes.com/asia-pacific/20170807/asean-rex-tillerson-north-korea-sanctions/


担忧美国“撤退”,东盟国家转变对华策略
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周日,国务卿雷克斯·W·蒂勒森在马尼拉出席每年一度的东盟部长级会议。 Mohd Rasfan/Agence France-Presse, via Associated Press
马尼拉——联合国安理会通过迄今最严厉的制裁朝鲜决议一天后,国务卿雷克斯·W·蒂勒森(Rex W. Tillerson)在这里会见了韩国和中国的对等官员,希望能增加对平壤的压力。

周日中午与韩国外交部长康京和(Kang Kyung-wha)的闭门会议中,蒂勒森用他惯常的方式有节制地赞扬了联合国的决议,它有可能给朝鲜造成每年10亿美元的损失,约等于其海外收入的三分之一。

“这是个好结果,”蒂勒森微笑着说。

坐在桌子另一边的康京和忍不住出言附和:“这是个非常、非常好的结果。”

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蒂勒森的喜悦之情溢于言表,然而在东南亚国家联盟经济共同体(Association of Southeast Asian Nations,简称东盟)的年度部长级会议上,最惹眼的人物是中国外交部长王毅,和蒂勒森不同的是,这位精神抖擞的外交官举办了一场新闻发布会,并与朝鲜外长李洙墉(Ri Su-yong)直接对话。

王毅表示,二人进行了“深入的交谈”。后来,他用异乎寻常的严厉口气敦促朝鲜方面,要表现出克制。

“不要再做有违安理会决议和国际社会意愿的导弹试射甚至是核试验,”王毅说。

他还表示,“当然,我们也会敦促其他各方,特别是美国和韩国也不要进一步加剧局势的紧张。”

一年前,中国人在这一地区被步步紧逼。海牙的一个国际仲裁庭于去年7月严词谴责了中国在南海的行为,其中包括建造人工岛屿,并裁定中国对南海大片水域提出的主权主张没有法律依据。

菲律宾状告中国的这桩案子,似乎是中国与文莱、印度尼西亚、马来西亚、台湾、越南等该地区多方势力之间纷争的转折点。

前述裁决出炉的几个月前,太平洋地区的12个国家给历时七年多的谈判画上句号,签署了“跨太平洋伙伴关系协定”(Trans-Pacific Partnership,简称TPP)。这项贸易协定把东南亚的很多国家和日本、美国一道纳入一种经济伙伴关系,旨在对抗中国在该地区日益增长的经济霸权。

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中国也有自己的区域贸易协定,然而由美国牵头的TPP一度成为首选协议,错过首轮谈判的若干国家纷纷表达了对参与第二轮谈判的兴趣。

如今的情况已经大为不同。

菲律宾原本坚决主张中国应该放弃在海牙仲裁庭的裁决中处于核心位置的浅滩。去年当选为菲律宾总统的罗德里戈·杜特地(Rodrigo Duterte)却打了退堂鼓,宁愿选择接受中国的重大经济援助。

菲律宾外交部长阿兰·彼得·卡耶坦诺(Alan Peter Cayetano)在周五的一个新闻发布会上表示,与中国对抗将得不偿失。

“如果我们对所有人都很苛刻,我们的人民就会受损失——贸易、直接的外国投资、还有旅游业,”卡亚塔诺说。

由于菲律宾目前担任东盟的东道国,该国态度的彻底转变解除了中国的重大顾虑,只有越南据说还继续坚持谴责北京的行动。

作为替代,东盟和中国就南海行为准则采用了一个相当无力的谈判框架——其中包括几个步骤,但不含任何可令中国放弃领土要求,或放弃其在争议水域建成的七个岛屿的内容,中国已为其中三个岛屿配备了跑道和重型军事装备。

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据路透社报道,王毅说,这一框架为谈判奠定了坚实的基础,如果“南海局势总体稳定,在外界没有大的干预前提下”,谈判可能于今年开始。

几乎没有人相信,该框架短时间内可让中国缔结一份具有约束力的协议。

也许更重要的是,特朗普总统在就任的最初几天里便放弃了TPP。在该地区的很多人看来,这一行动,加上他多年来对日本及中国贸易政策的谴责,以及他所承诺的“美国优先”核心方针,似乎代表着美国在该地区军事与经济参与的重大撤退,也代表着中国的重大胜利。

贝拉克·奥巴马总统曾对该地区给予极大关注,他在这里度过了一部分童年时光。东盟国家是一个拥有6.2亿人口、规模约在2.4万亿美元的联合经济体,其经济规模在亚洲仅次于中国和日本,位居第三位。

该地区的地理位置横跨世界上最繁忙、最重要的战略运输航道,是奥巴马政府的注意力向亚洲调整的重要部分。

特朗普尚未对该地区表示类似的兴趣或承诺。

在开幕致辞中,蒂勒森试图缓解对美国放弃该地区的担心,他表示,他与大使们的多次会晤都在“表明美国重视与东盟关系的重要性”。

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虽然蒂勒森选择不在周日和记者见面,但他在该地区的最高级别外交官、东亚和太平洋事务助理国务卿苏珊·A·桑顿(Susan A. Thornton)表示,高层官员的多次访问已经表明该地区对美国一直很重要。

她说:“投入度不是问题。”

不过,对于中国周六在联合国制裁朝鲜表决中投支持票,桑顿表示了赞赏。

“中国人帮助设定这套国际制裁,表明他们已经意识到这是一个亟需解决的巨大问题,对他们是个威胁。”她说。

但桑顿警告说,北京常常不遵守他们承诺要对朝鲜采取的强硬措施。中国在朝鲜对外贸易中占比逾90%,长期以来他们一直避免对朝鲜施加严厉经济制裁,因为既担心朝鲜政府的崩溃会导致大量难民涌入,又担心韩朝统一会使得美国的亲密盟友直接抵达中国的边界。

“我认为,我们仍然会密切关注他们如何实施制裁,”桑顿说。“但这绝对是重要的一步。”

蒂勒森周日也会见了俄罗斯外交部长谢尔盖·拉夫罗夫(Sergey Lavrov)。拉夫罗夫常常在与美国顶层外交官会面前后广泛表达意见,时有幽默言辞。但是,尽管他和蒂勒森在正式会议之前寒暄时面带微笑,表情轻松,但两人都没有对短暂出现在他们面前的记者说任何话。

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特朗普周三签署了制裁俄罗斯并限制他取消制裁的权力的法案,就在数日之前,俄罗斯总统普京决定把美国在俄罗斯的外交使团人数削减755人,两国关系陷入数十年来的最低点。

美联社翻译了俄罗斯电视台周日播出的一个节目,拉夫罗夫在节目中说,蒂勒森曾询问俄罗斯削减美国外交官员人数的细节,拉夫罗夫向他做了解释。

拉夫罗夫还表示,蒂勒森承诺将派美国驻乌克兰特使库尔特·沃尔克(Kurt Volker)前往莫斯科进行讨论。



Even Indonesia is leaning towards America. Left stupid Duterte still sucking Xi Jinping's balls.

Mattis Got A Kick Out Of Indonesian Soldiers Drinking Snake Blood During Bizarre Display

In what was surely a "unique" departure ceremony for visiting U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Indonesian Special Forces, known locally as the Kopassus, put on quite a display. During the over-the-top exhibition the fatigue-clad operators showed off some of their unique skills, including breaking concrete blocks with their heads and wrangling snakes, killing them, and drinking their blood.

Clips of the intense spectacle started making the rounds on the social media last evening, resulting in an interesting mix of reactions. But for the guest of honor, the spectacle was all in good taste.








 

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See your ignorance? Your desperate hunger for security counting on the USA Navy carriers. But today, there is absolutely no water ANY US carrier nor major surface ship can stay afloat, if PLA want them to sink. PLA can do it absolutely from their desk, their satellites sees clearly the live movement of US navy fleet on any part of the globe. Their DF-31AG now with hypersonic gliding warheads, has GLOBAL RANGE, and track accurately. Whole US Navy will have ZERO Carriers within about 50 mins the most, when PLA hit buttons, and absolutely do not need to leave base, can fire from anywhere they happened to be.



http://www.sohu.com/a/208521855_99913295

中国东风31AG导弹搭载高超音速滑翔弹头,目前世界无人能挡!
2017-12-05 11:33 导弹 /东风 /中国
2017年,中国连续曝光了好几种威力强大的战略性武器,火箭军展示了东风导弹全家福,包括东风-5B多弹头洲际核导弹,东风-5A大型液体洲际导弹,东风-31A和东风-31AG小型洲际弹道导弹,东风-16中程弹道导弹,东风-26中远程弹道导弹,东风-21D反舰弹道导弹,东风-15B近程弹道导弹,东风10A陆基巡航导弹,以及最新亮相的第四个轰-6K轰炸机团。这些导弹,构成了目前世界上最完整的远中近程结合、弹道巡航匹配、核常兼备的导弹打击体系。

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其中最不引人注意的是东风31AG洲际导弹的正式露面,从各方面影响来说,今年露面的战略武器,应该以东风31AG为头筹,因为这导弹经过建军70年成就展和朱日和大阅兵,标志着已经装备部队并形成了战斗力。

军事专家指出,东风31AG导弹是中国在DF31A洲际弹道导弹基础上改进的使用高机动底盘的新型多弹头洲际导弹。

东风31AG导弹其实早在两年前就已经出现在媒体上,只不过隐藏在东风41洲际导弹的光环下,很少为公众所知,因为人们普遍更关注中国战略核潜艇发射的海基巨浪2潜射弹道导弹和神秘的东风41洲际导弹。

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东风-31AG是一种小型洲际导弹,可野外无依托机动发射,携带MIRV(分导式多弹头),2014年9月25日首次成功试射。按照2016年11月2日《人民日报》头条《改革强军迈步新长征》文章里说到的,东风-31AG应该在2016年正式服役。此前美国人将其称之为东风-31B。

由于东风-31AG导弹的尺寸并没有东风-41大,据推算东风-41导弹发射车长18.5米(包含底座和安全帽大约是20米),东风-31AG发射筒长约15米,所以东风-31AG发射车的驾驶室为整体式,没有像东风41导弹那样发射筒探出车体前部,驾驶室被分割成左右两个部分。

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这是东风31AG(左)和东风41(右)洲际机动弹道导弹发射车的对比图,东风31AG的车尾有个简易的梯子,液压支腿暴露在外,很好辨认。

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作为东风31A导弹的后续改进,东风31AG导弹使用了三种新技术,一是采用全驱动越野车底盘,提高导弹的机动能力。三是采用野外无依托快速发射,提高系统生存能力。二是采用分导式多弹头,提高突防能力。

还有猜测认为,东风-31AG导弹除了携带分导式核弹头以外,还可能配备高超音速滑翔弹头(HGV),携带高超音速飞行器对特定目标实施“定点打击”,这种高超音速飞行器目前敌方几乎无法拦截。

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美国媒体华盛顿自由灯塔发表文章称,中国目前已经发展出了两款高超音速武器,除了已知的DF-ZF外,还有一种也在研制当中,DF-ZF的速度就已经达到了10马赫的速度,预计第二种高超音速飞行器的速度会更快。

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中国的高超音速飞行器将是未来发展的重点,这种武器一方面由于速度超过了拦截导弹的速度,另一方面则具备了飞行轨迹飘忽不定的特点,所以是目前无法防御的,极高的速度赋予了高超音速武器强大的动能,这种飞行器一旦和导弹武器结合起来,将具备难以想象的破坏力。返回搜狐,查看更多

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简氏称东风31或将装上高超音速弹头 一小时打遍全球
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  《简氏防务周刊》发布的一份题为“高超声速武器扰乱全球战略稳定”的报告指出,除美国和俄罗斯之外,中国的高超声速滑翔器(HGV)计划也取得了重大进展。2016年4月,中国进行了第七次HGV DF-ZF(WU-14)飞行试验。后续报告表明,其载体可能是DF-21 CSS-5中程弹道导弹,射程超过2000公里。据悉,这种高超声速武器将最终以射程超过8000公里的DF-31型导弹为载体。

  《简氏》报告指出,2016年11月,美国空军(USAF)委员会发布的一份非保密报告关注了高超声速技术的发展。这份报告警告美国高层: 要警惕高速机动武器发展带来的威胁。报告不仅对美国进攻型高速武器的发展落后其他国家表示了担忧,还称,未来的美国将很容易受到超音速武器攻击。例如,俄罗斯和中国都在发展高超声速滑翔器(HGV),并且保留了核弹头选项,除此之外,印度等国也开始了各自的高超音速项目。

  报告指出,鉴于重大技术进步和国防投资的增加,核大国之间展露出了HGV军备竞赛的苗头。尽管HGV军备竞赛本身出于战略层面的调整,但卡内基国际和平基金会的詹姆斯·阿克顿认为,竞赛本身也对战略稳定形成了诸多挑战。

  首先,这些武器可搭载的弹头性质模棱两可,这种情形下的HGV很难区分。除了无法区分所面临的威胁性质,HGV还会威胁到其他无法识别其攻击目标的国家。识别能力的缺失将导致国防机制和响应政策发生变化--兼有国内和国际的,并且可能会导致误判,一些邻国会错误地认为他们受到了攻击。

  这种歧义带来的风险不仅源于HGV的高速度,而且意味着,面对危机升级,决策者的响应时间减少,压力加大--如果HGV为常规武装,这种情况可能变得更频繁,因为它们将成为备受重视的超级高精度打击工具。

  传统上落后美国的俄罗斯和中国已经认识到了这一点,可以从中获得战略收益:HGV的高速度和高机动性可逃避美国的导弹防御系统。虽然HGV尚未变得司空见惯,但HGV军备竞赛已经是一个现实,鉴于HGV具备一小时打遍全球的能力,HGV正在加速冲突的到来。(作者署名:烽火议军情)


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The HGV hyper-sonic glider vehicle previously known as DF-ZF is now deployed and mounted on at least 2 DF models, DF-17 (for Pacific Targets) & DF-31AG (global targets) glider not only extended range by gliding near earth's atmosphere, it is also making it's trajectory free and agile 20X~50X more difficult to predict / intercept. And it's speed is MACH10 or faster. Its shaped like a triangular wing plane, instead of normal cone shaped warhead. To ensure finishing off carriers, a 10KT tactical nuke on it is a very tiny load, it can have large nuke actually.




 

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PLA Rocket Army HGV sinks ALL Carriers Globally, within 1 Hr, NO HIDING, NO INTERCEPTION, and cost to destroy US carrier only @ 1/1000 or cheaper. Carrier alone is $13B, Jets Helicopters etc $10B, weapons missiles, ammos $3B, compensations to thousands of killed men $2B, cost of PLA missile at most $50M


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Details of the Fate of the 12 US Aircraft Carriers Sunken in World War II - 12 Sad Images
With the advent of heavier-than-air flight, the aircraft carrier has become a decisive weapon at sea. The effectiveness of large aircraft carriers was demonstrated early in the war, when dozens of Japanese fighters and bombers, launched from aircraft carriers, decimated the U.S Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii in late 1941. In May of 1942, aircraft from Japanese and U.S carriers battled at the Coral Sea, the first naval conflict where the opposing ships did not make contact. This battle resulted in the sinking of the Lexington. The Japanese Navy also took heavy losses, most notably at the Battle of Midway in June 1942. There they lost four carriers and hundreds of airplanes—its naval power declined steadily after that. By contrast, ship production in the U.S accelerated dramatically in 1944 and 1945, when dozens of aircraft carriers (and other ships) were completed. Most came too late to make a major difference in the war, and many ships on order were cancelled at the end of the war in mid-1945.

USS LANGLEY (CV-1) - Sunk on February 22, 1942. It seems almost fitting that the first U.S. Navy carrier was the first to be sunk in World War II. LANGLEY had originally been a collier but was converted to a carrier in March of 1922. She was the test carrier from which all U.S. Navy carriers came. She was sunk 75 miles off of Tjilapjap, Java. Three waves of nine Aichi D3A1 "Val" dive bombers of the Japanese 21st and 23rd Naval Air Flotillas attacked her. She was struck by 5 bomb hits, she was badly damaged, and took a 10 degree list. She was abandoned due to her desparate situation and she had to be scuttled by her US destroyers escorts with nine 4 in (100 mm) shells and two torpedoes. She was just one of the many victims of the Battle of the Java Sea. 16 of her men went to the bottom with her.



The U.S. seaplane tender USS Langley (AV-3) is torpedoed following fatal bomb damage from Japanese dive bombers, south of Java, 27 February 1942. The photo was taken from the destroyer USS Whipple (DD-217) [Via Wikipedia]

USS LEXINGTON (CV-2) - Sunk May 8, 1942. She was torpedoed by Japanese B5Ns and hit by Japanese D3As during the Battle of the Coral Sea. The great aircraft carrier seemed to stay steady after being struck by two torpedoes and two bombs. The crew managed to get the fires under control and all seemed to be well. Suddenly, a series of explosions ripped through the ship when the vapers of her fuel supply ignited. The ship was abandoned in late afternoon, and the USS Destroyer Phelps was ordered to sink the ship and fired a total of five torpedoes. Immediately after the last torpedo hit, Lexington, down by the bow but nearly on an even keel finally sank. Some 216 crewmen were killed and 2,735 were evacuated. Thus ended the career of one of the most remarkable aircraft carriers in the U.S. Navy. She was nicknamed "Lady Lex".



The U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS Lexington (CV-2), burning and sinking after her crew abandoned ship during the Battle of Coral Sea, 8 May 1942. Note planes parked aft, where fires have not yet reached [Via Wikipedia]

USS YORKTOWN (CV-5) - Sunk June 8, 1942. Bombed and torpedoed during the Battle of Midway. On June 4, the Yorktown was bombarded twice by Japanese "Vals" and torpedoed by Japanese "Kates" operating off of the Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryu. (the only surviving Japanese carrier of four, but it was also sunk that day) During the first attack she was struck by 5 bombs. During the second attack, however, two torpedoes found their mark, seriously damaging the carrier. The crew was evacuated by order of Captain Buckmaster but the carrier did not go down. She began to drift and a recovery team was able to board her on June 5, but she was not to be saved. They had a carefully predetermined plan of action to be carried out by men from each department—damage control, gunnery air engineering, navigation, communication, supply and medical. To assist in the work, USS Hammann was brought alongside to starboard, aft, furnishing pumps and electric power. Unknown to Yorktown and the six nearby destroyers, Japanese submarine I-168 had achieved a favorable firing position. The Yorktown was finished off on June 8 when struck by 3 of 4 torpedoes fired by the Japanese submarine. The destroyer USS Hammann, which was providing power to the crippled carrier, was struck by the 4th torpedo and was lost with virtually all hands.



USS Yorktown (CV-5) is hit on the port side, amidships, by a Japanese Type 91 aerial torpedo during the mid-afternoon attack by planes from the carrier Hiryu, in the Battle of Midway, on 4 June, 1942. Yorktown is heeling to port and is seen at a different aspect than in other views taken by USS Pensacola (CA-24), indicating that this is the second of the two torpedo hits she received. Note very heavy anti-aircraft fire [Via Wikipedia]

USS WASP (CV-7) - Sunk September 15, 1942. Torpedoed during the Battle of Guadalcanal. A spread of six Type 95 torpedoes were fired at Wasp from the tubes of the B1 Type submarine I-19. Wasp put over her rudder hard to starboard to avoid the salvo, but it was too late.The carrier was hit by 2 torpedoes fired from the Japanese submarine. The fire spread quickly and got out of control. After little more than an hour she had to be abandoned. She continued to burn for 3 hours and was eventually sunk by U.S. destroyer Lansdowne. 193 men had died and 366 were wounded during the attack. All but one of her 26 airborne aircraft made a safe trip to carrier Hornet nearby before Wasp sank, but 45 aircraft went down with the ship. Other US destroyers kept I-19 busy avoiding 80 depth charges, but I-19 escaped safely.



The U.S. aircraft carrier USS Wasp (CV-7) burning after receiving three torpedo hits from the Japanese submarine I-19 east of the Solomons, 15 September 1942 [Via Wikipedia]

USS HORNET (CV-8) - Sunk October 26, 1942. Torpedoed during the Battle of Santa Cruz in the Solomon Islands. She was struck by 2 torpedoes launched by Nakajima B5N "Kate" torpedo planes, which seriously damaged the electrical systems and engines. At almost the same moment a pilot of a crippled Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber became one of the first Kamikaze of the war when the pilot deliberately crashed into Hornet's port side near the bow. With power knocked out to her engines, Hornet was unable to launch or land aircraft; forcing its aviators to either land on Enterprise or ditch in the ocean. Her fires were under control and repair crews were on the verge of restoring power, but there was an new attack by nine Japanese Nakajima B5N "Kate" torpedo planes from the carrier Junyo. Eight of these aircraft were either shot down or failed to score hits but the ninth planted a torpedo into Hornet's starboard side; which proved to be the fatal blow. The torpedo hit destroyed the repairs to the electrical system and caused a 14 degree list. She was damaged her beyond repair. After being informed that Japanese surface forces were approaching and that further towing efforts were futile, Vice Admiral William Halsey ordered Hornet sunk, and an order of "abandon ship" was issued. In the afternoon the crew was taken off. But the final "coup de grace" was administered later in the day by The Japanese destroyers, Makigumo and Akigumo, which finally finished off Hornet with four 24-inch (610 mm) Long Lance torpedoes. On 27 October, Hornet was finally sunk with the loss of 140 of her sailors.



Hornet, severely listing, is abandoned by her crew at about 17:00 on October 26, 1942 [Via Wikipedia]

USS PRINCETON (CVL-23) - Sunk October 23, 1944. Bombed during the Battle of Leyte Gulf near the Philippines. A highly skilled, lone Japanese pilot placed a bomb squarely between 6 armed torpedo bombers being readied for takeoff on the flight deck. The Yokosuka D4Y 'Judy' dive bomber dropped a single bomb, which struck the carrier between the elevators, punching through the flight deck and hangar before exploding. Although structural damage was minor, a fire broke out as a result of the hit; it quickly spread due to burning gasoline and caused further explosions. Cruisers and destroyers came alongside to provide assistance. USS Irwin (DD-794) approached and attempted to fight the fire in the forward section of the hangar deck. The cruiser USS Birmingham (CL-62), being the largest ship (and sharing the same light cruiser hull as the Princeton) took the lead role in fire fighting. The rough seas caused the Princeton to collide with and damage the assisting ships. PRINCETON crews fought to save the ship, but by mid-afternoon, fires reached the torpedo storage areas and a second and larger explosion shook the Princeton. The Birmingham suffered extensive damage and the carrier had to be abandoned. Irwin was also damaged, but stayed close and launched boats to rescue survivors from the sea. Irwin rescued .Princeton.Three minutes later an even larger explosion occurred on Princeton, destroying the entire forward section and sending flames and debris up to 1000–2000 feet into the air.



USS Birmingham (CL-62) comes alongside the burning USS Princeton (CVL-23) to assist with fire fighting, 24 October 1944 [Via Wikipedia]

USS LISCOMB BAY (CVE-56) - Sunk November 24, 1943. Torpedoed off of the Gilbert Islands during Operation Galvanic. At 5 A.M. two torpedoes launched from the Japanese submarine I-175 struck almost simultaneously. At least one struck abaft the after engine room, near the bomb stowage compartment and this meant that every bomb there exploded simultaneously. Men, planes and fragments of steel from the ship went high in the air. So high that the USS NEW MEXICO, which was traveling nearly a mile behind her, was showered with everything from plating to pieces of bodies and clothing. The whole after portion of the ship vanished. Immediately the ship was aflame from bow to stern, and one blast followed another as some bit of explosive or gasoline was found by the fires. All together 217 men were rescued. 591 enlisted men and 53 officers went down with the ship. Third Class Dorie Miller, the first black sailor to win the Navy Cross for his actions during the Pearl Harbor attack was killed aboard this ship. Of the 916 crewmen, only 272 were rescued by Morris, Hughes and Hull. The culprit, Japanese submarine I-175, escaped.



Burial at sea aboard the Leonard Wood of twoLiscome Bay sailors, victims of the submarine attack by I-175. Foreground facing ceremony are survivors ofLiscome Bay. Ship in background is Neville carrying remainder of the survivors [Via Wikipedia]

USS BLOCK ISLAND (CVE-21) - Sunk May 29, 1944. Torpedoed off the Canary Islands at 20:13 on 29 May 1944. U-549 had slipped undetected through her screen. The submarine put three torpedoes into the carrier before being sunk herself by Eugene E. Elmore and Ahrens of the screen. The carrier lost 6 men in the attack; the remaining 951 were picked up by the escort screen.



USS Block Island (CVE-21) shortly after leaving Norfolk, October 15, 1943, on her first anti-submarine cruise, with aircraft from Composite Squadron 1 (VC-1) on deck—9 FM-1 Wildcats (forward) and 12 TBF-1C Avengers [Via Wikipedia]

USS GAMBIER BAY (CVE-73) - Sunk October 25, 1944. Sunk by naval gunfire off of the Philippines during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. A small band of "jeep carriers" of "Taffy 3" came up against a much larger task force of Japanese ships, the still dangerous Center Force—consisting of four battleships, six heavy cruisers, two light cruisers and 11 destroyers. Leyte was hardly a carrier battle, but the stand of the "jeep carriers" off of Samar showed how much punishment the little ships could take. Their air groups were armed for softening up beach obstacles and strongpoints, not battleships and heavy cruisers, but their pilots made dummy runs at the Japanese ships. Gambier Bay was fired on and hit by multiple Japanese ships. Gambier Bay′s lone 5 in (130 mm) gun fired at an enemy cruiser that was shelling her, and the destroyers Heermann and Johnston made an unsuccessful effort to save her. Gambier Bay on fire. Around 08:20, Gambier Bay was severely damaged by an 8 in (200 mm) shell from the Japanese Heavy Cruiser Chikuma which flooded her forward engine room, cutting her speed in half. Gambier Bay was soon dead in the water. Gambier Bay and other ships of "Taffy 3"—aided by planes of "Taffy 2"—had stopped the powerful Japanese Center Force and inflicted significant losses. Two enemy cruisers were sunk, and much damage was inflicted on the other ships. Overall, the overwhelmingly powerful Japanese surface fleet had been turned back by the escort carriers and their screen of destroyers and destroyer escorts.

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Gambier Bay (CVE-73) under Japanese fire during the Battle of Samar. The smudge in the upper right corner is a Japanese heavy cruiser [Via Wikipedia]

USS ST LO (CVE-63) - Sunk October 25, 1944. Bombed during the Battle of Leyte Gulf off of Samar Island, Philippines. St. Lo was sunk the same day as the Gambier Bay. At 10:47, the task unit came under a concentrated air attack by the Shikishima Special Attack Unit. During the 40–minute engagement with enemy kamikazes, all the escort carriers except Fanshaw Bay were damaged. One Mitsubishi A6M2 Zero—perhaps flown by Lieutenant Yukio Seki—crashed into the flight deck of St. Lo at 10:51. Its bomb penetrated the flight deck and exploded on the port side of the hangar deck, where aircraft were in the process of being refueled and rearmed. A gasoline fire erupted, followed by six secondary explosions, including detonations of the ship's torpedo and bomb magazine. St. Lo was engulfed in flame and sank 30 minutes later. Of the 889 men aboard, 113 were killed or missing and approximately 30 others died of their wounds. The survivors were rescued from the water by Heermann, John C. Butler, Raymond, and Dennis. It was a terrible day for the U.S. Navy.



The first major explosion following the impact of the Kamikaze aircraft has created a fireball that has risen to about 300 feet above the flight deck. The largest object above that fireball is the aft aircraft elevator, which was hurled to a height of about 1,000 feet by this first explosion. In this photo it is about 800 feet high [Via Wikipedia]

USS OMMANEY BAY (CVE-79) - Sunk January 4, 1945. Sunk by a Kamikaze off of Mindoro, Philippines. A twin-engine Japanese suicide plane penetrated the screen undetected and made for Ommaney Bay. The plane nicked her island then crashed into her starboard side. Two bombs were released; one of them penetrated the flight deck and detonated below, setting off a series of explosions among the fully gassed planes on the forward third of the hangar deck. The second bomb passed through the hangar deck, ruptured the fire main on the second deck, and exploded near the starboard side. Men struggling with the terrific blazes on the hangar deck soon had to abandon it because of the heavy black smoke from the burning planes and exploding .50 caliber ammunition. By 17:50 the entire topside area had become untenable, and the stored torpedo warheads threatened to go off at any time. The order to abandon ship was given. At 19:45 the carrier was sunk by a torpedo from the destroyer Burns. A total of 95 Navy men were lost, including two killed on an assisting destroyer when torpedo warheads on the carrier's hangar deck finally went off.



USS Ommaney Bay (CVE-79) (right) under attack [Via Wikipedia]

USS BISMARK SEA (CVE-95) - Sunk February 21, 1945. On 16 February, she arrived off Iwo Jima to support the invasion. Struck by two Kamikazes off of Iwo Jima. The planes set off uncontrollable fires and exploding ammunition. Two Japanese kamikazes hit the Bismarck Sea, first on the starboard side under the first 40 mm gun (aft), crashing through the hangar deck and striking the ship's magazines. The fire was nearly under control when the second plane struck the aft elevator shaft, exploding on impact and destroying the fire fighting salt water distribution system, thus preventing any further damage control. Due to the great explosions the ship was abandoned and sank beneath the waves in 90 minutes. The USS Bismarck Sea sank with the loss of 318 men, and was the last US Navy aircraft carrier to be lost during World War II. Three destroyers and three destroyer escorts rescued survivors over the next 12 hours, between them saving a total of 605 officers and men from her crew of 923. Survivors were then transferred to Dickens and Highlands.



Large explosion on board USS Bismarck Sea (CVE-95) during the night of February 21, 1945. She was struck by two Kamikazes within two minutes of each other, while she was taking part in the Iwo Jima operation. She sank as a result of her damage. Photographed from USS Saginaw Bay (CVE-82) [Via Wikipedia]

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INDONESIA RECEIVES FIRST AH-64E APACHE GUARDIAN ATTACK HELICOPTER

The Indonesian Army (Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat: TNI-AD) took delivery of its first three Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopters from the U.S. on December 18.

Indonesia sought eight AH-64E in 2012 in a $1.42 billion U.S. deal that includes 140 AGM-114R3 Hellfire II anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM), 19 General Electric T-700-GE-701D turboshaft engines, training, spare parts and logistical support.

The AH-64E is the latest variant of the Apache, a heavyweight attack helicopter platform capable of anti-armour and anti-infantry operations. It is the mainstay attack helicopter of the U.S. Army as well as the U.K., Saudi Arabia, the Netherlands, Israel and others.



Indonesia is begging to buy Chinese fighter's cheap export model, President is testing the same model used by Pakistan Air Force:

JF-17 is made to kill US F-16 cheap and effective.

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印度尼西亚的总统佐科·维多多1月27日,在伊斯兰堡的努尔汗空军基地视察了JF-17“枭龙”战斗机。他这型战斗机的表现出“浓厚兴趣”。 当天,巴基斯坦空军向来访的高官介绍了JF-17的作战能力。后来,巴基斯坦总统在努尔汗基地送印尼总统专机离境。 (来源:电波震长空xiangyuanye )

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新浪军事深度:转眼间枭龙战斗机已经服役10年了,但作为一款以外销为目的的战斗机,除了装备巴基斯坦空军,其销售情况却一直不佳,这是为何呢?

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枭龙的项目,其实要追溯到很久以前的“超7”项目,经过诸多谈判和起起伏伏,最终由我国和巴基斯坦签订协议,联合研发枭龙FC-1战机。在2007年,枭龙生产型正式首飞,目前已经批量装备了巴基斯坦空军的若干个中队并在持续生产中。


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枭龙面临的出口困境,其实最主要的还是发动机问题,该机型所配备的发动机,是由俄罗斯米格-29双发前线战斗机的RD-33发动机发展而来的RD-93涡扇发动机。为了适应装备单发战斗机,而进行了大量的改进,但其根本性的毛病丝毫没有更改。

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在珠海航展的现场,进行表演的枭龙只要进行油门的加减,毫无疑问地会出现“屁股冒黑烟”的窘境。这一幕被很多军迷戏称为柴油机飞机。但是,就算是这样的发动机,我国还是生产不了。经过很多年的研究,我国基本已经放弃了中等推力发动机的研制。

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转而进行大推力涡扇发动机的攻关,这本是无可厚非的事情。毕竟谁也不想陷入到“中型战斗机陷阱”中,即高不成低不就的情况。但枭龙一直没有一颗合适的“国产心”,间接地导致了很多客户在采购的过程中不愿意再与第三国即俄罗斯进行发动机购买谈判。

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枭龙的另一大问题,就是前述所说的“中型战斗机陷阱”,这并不是指很多空军强国的中型战斗机,而是特指在很多枭龙的潜在客户国中,担任主力的普遍是F-16这类在空军强国里的小跟班。

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毫无疑问,枭龙在这类国家里,存在着高不成低不就的现象。高,不能与重型战斗机争夺制空权,低,不能和攻击机一起对地打击,发动机的问题,机体的设计,导致外挂点偏少,载弹量偏低,在升空作战前,还挂载副油箱,因此,作战效费比很低。


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这些就极大的限制了枭龙的作战能力,也导致了很多国家宁可买二手F-16,也不想买枭龙。毕竟,F-16二手价格和枭龙新机采购价格相差并不是很大。


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最后还是国际政治问题,这个世界毕竟还是美帝主导的世界,很多事情特别是军火交易上,美帝还是把持的很紧的。


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不管是欧洲还是亚非拉等第三世界国家,在军火采购上,很多时候都是要听命于美国军火商的意见,恰好这十年也是美军大量准备淘汰F-15、F-16系列战斗机,换装F-22、F-35战斗机的时期。


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 但好在的是,枭龙是我国自主研发的,凭借我国最近这些年通过研发J-20、J-31、J-16等先进战机积攒的经验,深度改进枭龙并不是一件难事,而FC-31鹘鹰更有可能取代FC-1枭龙的出口地位,从而使我国的外贸战斗机性能更上一层楼。(作者署名:利刃)
 
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