Evasive Lee Kuan Yew answered a question by asking another question

[streetsmart73]

No worries. His question is not recorded. Wilki cannot leak it.

hi there


1. hairy, you are damn good!
2. aiyoh! beats me to it too.
3. hahaha!
4. probably, the filenotes may not even record what the question was!

 

[streetsmart73]

Suddenly he become an expert in the issues regarding to the female reproductive system...

hi there


1. the woman in question should pose the same question on his rich/poor left-on-the-shelf princess mah!

 

[neddy]

Maybe he is implying that having a boyfriend and having more babies would lead to better social cohesiveness? That because of the selfish attitudes of Singaporeans not having enough babies they have to import more FTs leading to less social cohesiveness? She should just ask that back.

It is a fact that the TWO IS ENOUGH policy comes from LKY.
It is a fact that educate women do not make a lot of babies. It is the same in Singapore, Japan or even southern India.
It is also a fact that LKY want women in the workforce.
Who experiemented and failed social engineering? LKY again.

So, Singaporeans are suffering the consequences of LKY policies and LKY wants to divert the topic & push the blame back to the student?.

 

[Cruxx]

It is a fact that the TWO IS ENOUGH policy comes from LKY.
It is a fact that educate women do not make a lot of babies. It is the same in Singapore, Japan or even southern India.
It is also a fact that LKY want women in the workforce.
Who experiemented and failed social engineering? LKY again.

So, Singaporeans are suffering the consequences of LKY policies and LKY wants to divert the topic & push the blame back to the student?.

Which brings two questions: What has Kuan Yew ever done for Singapore? Are the immense power and wealth he enjoys commensurate with his contributions?

 

[Kid278]

The NTU student told the New Paper that she asked a direct question and expected a straight forward answer but did not expect LKY to turn the tables and fire a string of personal questions at her instead.

She should have seen it coming.That's a crooked cunning old fox she's talking to and for that never expect straight answers. Since he digressed into aging population and declining fertility rate, hit him back for not having foresight when he introduced and implemented the population control program. A flawed policy that makes people stop at two, even to the extent of penalizing those that defies. This is a responsibility he has to take, not deny and blame.

 

[steffychun]

He's sulking due to the lose of his partner

 

[zeddy]

He's sulking due to the lose of his partner

If the urge is still there, then maybe he should get a new partner..

 

[steffychun]

http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2005/yax-407.htm

Jamie Han case. Same tatic used by LKY

 

[johnny333]

It is a fact that the TWO IS ENOUGH policy comes from LKY.
It is a fact that educate women do not make a lot of babies. It is the same in Singapore, Japan or even southern India.
It is also a fact that LKY want women in the workforce.
Who experiemented and failed social engineering? LKY again.

So, Singaporeans are suffering the consequences of LKY policies and LKY wants to divert the topic & push the blame back to the student?.

I remember watching Nightline where Ted Koppel was interviewing LKY. LKY was made to look like a crackpot defending his stop at two policy

 

[steffychun]

PhD holder should have shot back? Why didnt your daughter marry?

 

[sense]

Instead, the elder statesman spoke about the ageing population and the declining fertility rate here, before firing a string of rather personal questions to Miss Sim, who said she did not have a boyfriend, and would finish her PhD in two years.

 

[scroobal]

In his 50 years leading this country only 2 young adults gave him as good as they got. One was Han in NUS and the other was the Singapore Reuters Journalist who fucked him when he avoided her question and raised a personal question.

Really a rude prick.

 

[singveld]

yeah act like dictators.

 

[steffychun]

yeah act like dictators.

Catro and Kim would never ask such questions back

 

[Unrepented]

Any report or video on this?

........ the other was the Singapore Reuters Journalist who fucked him when he avoided her question and raised a personal question.

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[sense]

In his 50 years leading this country only 2 young adults gave him as good as they got. One was Han in NUS and the other was the Singapore Reuters Journalist who fucked him when he avoided her question and raised a personal question.

Really a rude prick.

Feb 1, 2005

THE KENT RIDGE MINISTERIAL FORUM

How to rein in a 'despot'? Form a party
If you have different views, go into politics and air your ideas, MM Lee tells young

By Lynn Lee

A STUDENT argued for less government control and remarked that even the 'most enlightened despot' could turn into a tyrant if his powers were left unchecked.

The comment led Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew to throw this gauntlet down to the young: If they believe they have a better point of view to 'stake' their lives, organise, form a political party and win people over.

'There is nothing to prevent you from pushing your propaganda, to push your programme out either to the students or with the public at large... and if you can carry the ground, if you are right, you win. That's democracy. We're not preventing anybody,' he said.

The exchange took place last night during a question-and-answer session he had with university students at the Kent Ridge Ministerial Forum held at the NUS University Cultural Centre.

NUS history student Jamie Han had asked for the Internal Security Act and newspaper laws to be reviewed. This was when he made his comment on despots.

Furthermore, he said, channels to offer different views 'were either directly or indirectly controlled by the Government'.

Mr Lee first asked him if he had written to the newspapers, such as The Straits Times Forum page.

Yes, he replied. But only one letter was published.

Why not start a publication then, asked MM Lee.

The laws made it 'very difficult', the student said.
No, he could register it, said Mr Lee.

Mr Han was not persuaded.

To laughter, Mr Lee replied: 'Well, you have the Internet - put up a website. You know how to put up a website? If you don't, I know a friend who can help you.'

He returned to the point about 'despots' only later, in reply to another question.

This time, another student asked about the coming General Election.

Mr Lee said the election did not have to be held until 2007 and between now and then, it was unlikely any group could form a team that can declare it will do better than the current Government. All it could offer was to be a 'different voice'.

He asked: 'Those of you who really feel strongly that you got a better point of view, I say organise yourself - as I did. I took my life in my hands and said I stand for this.'

He recalled how when he met the Plen, or Fang Chuan Pi, in Beijing in 1992, the communist leader had told him that he had saved his life when he could have ordered him killed for taking on the communists in the 1950s.

Said Mr Lee: 'I said 'Thank you'. He could have shot me. But I told him, 'You are not a fool and you knew that if you had assassinated me, your organisation would have been crushed because I was not unpopular.'

'Had I been unpopular, then you have got rid of despot... but I was no despot. That generation knew that I fought for them.'

At this point, Mr Lee asked the student who prompted the response: How old was his father?

'50-plus,' said the student.

MM Lee said: 'If he's 50 plus, then he will remember. You don't put your life at risk in calling me a despot. Well, in order to have your views heard, if you profoundly believe that you have that passion, I say stake your life, take on with your duties, come out, put your programme, sort it out.'

He said too that the current leadership had proven its mettle, having seen the country through the Asian financial crisis in 1997 and the Sars outbreak in 2003.

Its team of 'resourceful and quick-witted, well-organised' leaders had responded to these problems methodically and systematically.

'If you believe that a vociferous opposition with good ideas would have responded in that way, you are wrong,' he said.

He added that the People's Action Party had remained in power by delivering results and getting good people to be with the party.

'That's how we stay in office, not by monopolising... but by co-opting, incorporating and moving forward. So my message to you is a simple one. Remember how we got here. And before you make fundamental changes, make sure that your alternative is viable.

'This is not an ordinary country. You have two election terms of a dud, lousy, incompetent government and you will set Singapore back so badly, it may take you decades to recover, and maybe never. If you dismantle the organisation that brought us here, don't believe it will come back.'

 

[sense]

In his 50 years leading this country only 2 young adults gave him as good as they got. One was Han in NUS and the other was the Singapore Reuters Journalist who ****ed him when he avoided her question and raised a personal question.

SINGAPORE: Free press is not a national cure-all

Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew defends state of freedom of speech in Singapore, says it's not as repressed as "Western media says"

The Straits Times
Saturday, January 12, 2008

A free press is not the answer to all of a country's development problems, said Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, in response to a question on free speech from a Reuters reporter.

He said: 'You look at Taiwan, the Philippines, South Korea. They've got a free press which runs rampant.

'Corruption runs riot, the media itself is corrupted.

'But the theory is, you have a free press, corruption disappears. Now I'm telling you, that's not true.'

Ms Melanie Lee, 23, the reporter, had asked how Singapore could reach a level of cultural development comparable to Italy and Austria -- a 10 to 15 year target set by Mr Lee -- when she felt that, as a society, it had limited freedom of expression.

The query prompted Mr Lee to ask the reporter how exactly she felt her freedom of speech was being suppressed.

To this, she said that she faced no problems with freedom of expression personally as she worked for an international news outfit. But there were restrictions on society here, she argued, citing the Speakers' Corner in Hong Lim Park.

Said Mr Lee: 'Please do not assume that what the Western media says of us is necessarily true.

'If we are not able to think for ourselves and decide if what they tell us is either good or useful or not so good, we wouldn't be here.'

To her comment on how society here could become creative if there were restrictions, he told the reporter: 'I worry about being more creative much more than you do.

'You know, today's Singapore did not come about naturally, otherwise there would be hundreds of Singapores around the world.

'It came about because there was a group of people who were well educated, who were determined to do what they thought had to be done for their people, to create a better life and a better society in very adverse circumstances.

'And if we were not creative in our thinking, we wouldn't be here.

'If we had followed the conventional wisdom and we just played to the big corporations, the MNCs, we would still be making mosquito coils, garments, bedsheets, shoes, all the low-end products.'

Free press is not a national cure-all, The Straits Times, 12 January 2008, Page 55
http://newspapers.nl.sg

 

[sense]

In his 50 years leading this country only 2 young adults gave him as good as they got. One was Han in NUS and the other was the Singapore Reuters Journalist who ****ed him when he avoided her question and raised a personal question.

The bully
Gandhi Ambalam
17 Jan 08

The Minister Mentor has done it again. His victim this time? A cub reporter from Reuters by the name of Melanie Lee.

Ms Lee had asked the Minister how he expected the society to become cultivated given the restriction on civil liberties in Singapore.

Earlier at a conference at the Suntec Convention Centre, Mr Lee told the audience that Singapore could reach a level of cultural development comparable to Italy and Austria in 10 to 15 years. (An interesting choice of countries given that one was home to a fascist named Mussolini and the other the birthplace of Adolf Hitler).

Instead of getting a straightforward answer, however, the 23-year-old journalist was given an earful by the Mentor on how Singapore had made it without a free press.

This prompted Ms Lee to ask how it could be done when there is limited freedom of expression in Singapore, unlike the two European countries he had mentioned.

How dare she talk back to our Leader? According to one of the mentored ministers, Mr George Yeo, this was boh-tua-bo-suay which, according to my Chinese colleagues, was a reprimand that parents used on their children when they were disrespectful. Ms Lee didn't seem to know her place in society.

Appropriately goaded, the bull charged. "What school did you go to?"

"Why does that matter?" the Reuters reporter countered.

She did it again! The cheek! The audacity! The courage.

This was vintage Lee who, when faced with a gutsy youth refusing to just nod her head in cowardly agreement whenever the Leader launches into hyperbolic nonsense, gets personal and outright insulting.

This is not first time Mr Lee Kuan Yew has bullied local reporters who show some semblance of independent thinking. A few weeks before the general elections in 2006, another enthusiastic reporter, Mr Ken Kwek, was harangued by the Minister for saying that there is widespread fear among Singaporeans towards the authoritarian rule of the PAP.

Mr Kwek was one of a handful of carefully screened participants in a so-called televised discussion with Mr Lee as the guest on the forthcoming 2006 elections.

Refusing to answer the question, Mr Lee repeatedly asked the young Straits Times reporter to disclose the names of those in the newspaper survey who had said that "fear" was a major factor when it came to politics in Singapore.

Mr Kwek is, perhaps not surprisingly, no longer with the newspaper.

Mr Lee may revel in the fact that he has just beaten up another young reporter and put him in his place. Good for him.

But what may be a thrill for the MM, is a loss for Singapore. There are countless others who, like Mr Kwek, have found the local media culture so distasteful that they have decided its just not worth it and packed up.

I am certain that in the future there will be many more young Singaporeans who want to experience firsthand the excitement of journalism but only to realize the hard reality that there is no such thing in PAP land.

I have been told that "self-loathing" is not a scarce emotion running through the rooms and hallways of a spanking building in Toa Payoh they call the News Centre. Given the kind of stuff that goes on in there, I know because I was one of them once upon a time, one shouldn't be surprised.

How do you stand tall when the newspaper you write for is constantly questioned for its integrity? The ranking it gets from the World Press Freedom Index of 140-something must hang like a dead albatross around its neck.

Ironically, it is young people like Melanie Lee and Ken Kwek who understand why Singapore is stuck in such political and cultural backwardness. They may not say it, but the one thing that is holding back the country is the very octogenarian seated in front of them.

The truth of the matter is that a free media throws up ideas and brings into sharp focus contrary views needed to propel Singapore into a level of cultural development equal to that of Italy and Austria.

Does Mr Lee Kuan Yew know that what he's doing is hurting the country? Maybe, maybe not. Does he care? Not one iota.

Mr Ambalam is Chairman of the Singapore Democrats. He is a former journalist.

http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/Vantage_Gandhi Ambalam3.html

PS: Several unverified info above. Read with caution.

 

[sense]

SINGAPORE: Free press is not a national cure-all
Saturday, January 12, 2008
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Ms Melanie Lee, 23, the reporter, had asked how Singapore could reach a level of cultural development comparable to Italy and Austria -- a 10 to 15 year target set by Mr Lee -- when she felt that, as a society, it had limited freedom of expression.
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http://blogs.reuters.com/melanie-lee/