EV is like mRNA vaccines

[Ng Cheh Hwang]

The amount of resources and pollution it takes to make an EV is 3-5 times that of a conventional ICE(petrol) vehicle.

Then came the amount of inconvenience to own an EV, spending numerous hours charging and unable to cold start in winter. EV owners ended up spending more time thinking about their cars than their parents.

Of course, with government policies advocating EVs over petrol-vehicles, EVs were priced cheaper and given more tax concessions to encourage the adoption. More silly with Petrol + EV which complicate the vehicle and creates more flaws.

It kinda reminds me of the mRNA vaccine days. Logic and common sense told us that the efficacy benefits were over-rated and it was side-effects aplenty but government policies advocated it and pushed it down our throats.

 

[Truthspeak]

 

[k1976]

If u really buy EV, I think only Tesla is worth it
At least there is 10yrs of reliability record

 

[Ng Cheh Hwang]

If u really buy EV, I think only Tesla is worth it
At least there is 10yrs of reliability record

cheaper than Honda now hahaa

 

[hepburn21]

The amount of resources and pollution it takes to make an EV is 3-5 times that of a conventional ICE(petrol) vehicle.

Then came the amount of inconvenience to own an EV, spending numerous hours charging and unable to cold start in winter. EV owners ended up spending more time thinking about their cars than their parents.

Of course, with government policies advocating EVs over petrol-vehicles, EVs were priced cheaper and given more tax concessions to encourage the adoption. More silly with Petrol + EV which complicate the vehicle and creates more flaws.

It kinda reminds me of the mRNA vaccine days. Logic and common sense told us that the efficacy benefits were over-rated and it was side-effects aplenty but government policies advocated it and pushed it down our throats.

Lol your LLM stuck in 2015?

Now 2025 already. Wake up from your slumber.

 

[Boonsiong]

cheaper than Honda now hahaa

Pls explain

 

[Ng Cheh Hwang]

Pls explain

Cheapest Tesla Model 3 is about $190K now
Basic Honda civic costs even more.

Model Y is about $230K
2.5L Honda costs even more
Accord is $300K

 

[Vlad Tepes]

Upkeep for EV annually is how much?

 

[laksaboy]

It's all based on lies. The anti-carbon cult takes instructions from their Davos masters.

Follow the money and you will know the truth.

 

[Boonsiong]

Cheapest Tesla Model 3 is about $190K now
Basic Honda civic costs even more.

Model Y is about $230K
2.5L Honda costs even more
Accord is $300K

New car and inclusive of COE ? But Toyota rav4 is cheaper than model y ?

 

[Boonsiong]

Upkeep for EV annually is how much?

EV charge full tank is only sgd40.

 

[syed putra]

The amount of resources and pollution it takes to make an EV is 3-5 times that of a conventional ICE(petrol) vehicle.

Then came the amount of inconvenience to own an EV, spending numerous hours charging and unable to cold start in winter. EV owners ended up spending more time thinking about their cars than their parents.

Of course, with government policies advocating EVs over petrol-vehicles, EVs were priced cheaper and given more tax concessions to encourage the adoption. More silly with Petrol + EV which complicate the vehicle and creates more flaws.

It kinda reminds me of the mRNA vaccine days. Logic and common sense told us that the efficacy benefits were over-rated and it was side-effects aplenty but government policies advocated it and pushed it down our throats.

Wot idiocy.
EV's usage increases air quality in urban areas.
The chinese petrol + EV is remarkable.
The petrol engine used occasionally on long distance trips or when battery runs out sbd tuned to Operate at maximum efficiency at controlled rpm and only to charge the batteries achieving 47% efficiency at all times .
Its not like other petrol engine in ICE cars where its rpm may vary from 800 -5000rpm and efficiency range from 30-47%.
And if you have hone chargers, in town you font really need to use the petrol. Engine. Just charge every night or two nights.
Data centres and AI uses a lot of power. If you want to save the planet, dont use the web.

 

[tobelightlight]

Wot idiocy.
EV's usage increases air quality in urban areas.
The chinese petrol + EV is remarkable.
The petrol engine used occasionally on long distance trips or when battery runs out sbd tuned to Operate at maximum efficiency at controlled rpm and only to charge the batteries achieving 47% efficiency at all times .
Its not like other petrol engine in ICE cars where its rpm may vary from 800 -5000rpm and efficiency range from 30-47%.
And if you have hone chargers, in town you font really need to use the petrol. Engine. Just charge every night or two nights.
Data centres and AI uses a lot of power. If you want to save the planet, dont use the web.

And you can died suddenly,just like mRNA.

 

[Leongsam]

The amount of resources and pollution it takes to make an EV is 3-5 times that of a conventional ICE(petrol) vehicle.

Then came the amount of inconvenience to own an EV, spending numerous hours charging and unable to cold start in winter. EV owners ended up spending more time thinking about their cars than their parents.

Of course, with government policies advocating EVs over petrol-vehicles, EVs were priced cheaper and given more tax concessions to encourage the adoption. More silly with Petrol + EV which complicate the vehicle and creates more flaws.

It kinda reminds me of the mRNA vaccine days. Logic and common sense told us that the efficacy benefits were over-rated and it was side-effects aplenty but government policies advocated it and pushed it down our throats.

The claim that manufacturing an electric vehicle (EV) requires 3-5 times the resources and pollution of a conventional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle is overstated and not supported by most lifecycle assessments (LCAs). While EVs do have a higher upfront environmental impact—primarily due to battery production—the multiplier is typically 1.3-2 times higher for greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions during manufacturing, depending on the study and region. Broader "pollution" (e.g., including non-GHG pollutants) or resource extraction can push this slightly higher in some cases, but rarely reaches 3-5 times. Over a vehicle's full lifecycle (including use and disposal), EVs emit 50-78% fewer GHGs than ICE vehicles, especially as grids decarbonize.Key Factors in Manufacturing ImpactsEV production is more resource- and emissions-intensive upfront because:

• Battery materials: Mining and processing lithium, cobalt, nickel, and graphite require significant energy and water, often in fossil-fuel-dependent regions like China (where ~70% of batteries are made).
• Energy use: Battery assembly is energy-hungry, contributing ~30-50% of an EV's total manufacturing emissions.
• Vehicle assembly: EVs have fewer parts (no engine/transmission), but the battery adds weight and complexity.

In contrast, ICE vehicles have higher impacts from steel/aluminum for engines and exhaust systems, but these are offset by the lack of battery production.Data from Reliable LCAsHere's a comparison of manufacturing GHG emissions based on recent studies (focusing on mid-size sedans/SUVs; values in kg CO₂e per vehicle):


Lifecycle PerspectiveThe upfront hit is quickly offset:

• EVs break even on emissions after 13,000-30,000 miles (1-2 years average driving).
• Total lifecycle: EVs emit 20-40 tons CO₂e less over 150,000-200,000 miles.
• Future improvements: Cleaner battery production (e.g., via renewables) could cut EV manufacturing emissions 50% by 2030.

In short, while EVs aren't perfect, the 3-5x claim exaggerates the manufacturing gap to downplay their overall benefits. For context-specific advice (e.g., your local grid), tools like the EPA's emissions calculator can help.

 

[Vlad Tepes]

EV charge full tank is only sgd40.

I'm doing besides refuel, change tires, batt change, balancing, gear change, etc. (excluding insurance)

 

[laksaboy]

Don't forget the PAP regime loves to spend a lot of taxpayer money for various 'campaigns' to sell a particular product or idea. See also: Covid vaccines, anti-vaping, BTOgether etc.

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Jul 24, 2024

or even park near one.....

Fall in love with EVs!

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