Erdogan: ‘Jerusalem Has Been Our City For Thousands of Years’

[duluxe]

U also another retard. I posted tat video. Fm the horses mouth. Yet u still dont understand?

LOL, like that consider universally accepted historical fact? You standard with historical accuracy is as low as your moral with underage sex.

I also posted these 2 videos, from the arabia camel mouths---The perfect koran says Earth Is Stationary and Doesn't Move, the Sun Rotates Around the Earth.


Saudi Cleric Says Earth Is Stationary and Doesn't Move:

Saudi Cleric Says the Sun Rotates Around the Earth:

The earth is stationary because Allah told us '- Kids TV Show Scholar:

 

[syed putra]

Clerics are the worse bullshitters and thats why i avoid them.

 

[syed putra]

WORLD
Jerusalem has history of many conquests, surrenders

Jerusalem has been captured and recaptured at least 20 times. It's been claimed by about as many countries and empires, and by three of the world's major religions.
Here’s a brief history of how a humble village on a scrubby hilltop became the Holy City that provoked centuries of dispute:
3,000 to 2,500 B.C. — The city on the hills separating the fertile Mediterranean coastline of present-day Israel from the arid deserts of Arabia was first settled by pagan tribes in what was later known as the land of Canaan. The Bible says the last Canaanites to rule the city were the Jebusites.
1,000 B.C. — According to archaeological evidence, King David conquered the city. He was warned that "even the blind and the lame can ward you off," the Bible says. He named his conquest The City of David and made it the capital of his new realm.

960 B.C. — David's son Solomon built the first Jewish temple. The Bible says the Israelites also fought many wars against another Canaanite tribe called the Philistines who lived along the southern coastline.
721 B.C. — Assyrians conquered part of the land of Israel called Samaria, and Jewish refugees fled to Jerusalem, causing the city to expand.
701 B.C. — Assyrian ruler Sennacherib laid siege to Jerusalem.
586 B.C. — Babylonian troops occupied the city, destroying the temple and exiling many Jews.

539 B.C. — Persian King Cyrus the Great conquered the Babylonian empire, including Jerusalem.
516 B.C. — King Cyrus allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem to rebuild. The Jews built the Second Temple.
445-425 B.C. — Nehemiah the Prophet rebuilt the walls of the city.
332 B.C. — Alexander the Great of Macedonia took control. After his death, his empire was divided into four, including the Seleucid Empire that contained the land of Israel and their ancient enemies the Philistines (Palestine).
160-167 B.C. — The Jews' Maccabean revolt, launched against the Seleucid Empire and Greek influence, eventually returned the city to Jewish control. The Jewish holiday of Hanukkah celebrates the purification of the Second Temple after the Maccabees reconquered the city.

141 B.C. — The Hasmonean dynasty of Jewish rulers began, and the city grew.
63 B.C. — Roman General Pompey captured Jerusalem.
37 B.C. — Roman client King Herod renovated the Second Temple and added retaining walls, one of which remains today and is called the Western Wall, or the Wailing Wall by Jews.
30 A.D. — Jesus was crucified by the Roman soldiers.
70 — During another Jewish revolt, the Romans destroy their Temple and exile many Jews.
135 — The Romans rebuild Jerusalem as a city of their own.
335 — Roman Emperor Constantine built the Church of the Holy Sepulcher over the spot where Jesus was said to have been buried and to have risen from the dead.

614 — The Persians capture Jerusalem.
629 — Byzantine Christians recapture Jerusalem.
632 — Muhammed, the prophet of Islam, died and was said to ascend to heaven from a rock in the center of where the Jewish Temple used to be.
637 — Caliph Omar entered the city to accept the surrender of its Byzantine ruler, the Patriarch Sophronius.
691 — The Muslim shrine known as Haram al Sharif, or the Dome of the Rock, was built around that spot where Mohamed was said to have risen to heaven, remains there today.

1099-1187 — Christian Crusaders occupied Jerusalem, claiming it as a major religious site.

1187 — Salladin captures Jerusalem from the Crusaders.

1229-1244 — Crusaders recapture Jerusalem twice.

1250 — Muslim rulers dismantle the walls of the city.

1517 — The Ottoman Empire captures Jerusalem and Suleiman the Magnificent rebuilds the walls from 1538 to 1541.

1917 — The British capture Jerusalem in World War I.

1948 — The state of Israel is established, dividing the city between Israel and Jordan.

1967 — Israel captures East Jerusalem and immediately annexed it, granting Arab (Palestinian) residents permanent resident status, but not citizenship.

Sources: History.com, Jewish Virtual Library, Lost Islamic History, B’Tselem

 

[duluxe]

Clerics are the worse bullshitters and thats why i avoid them.

Imams studied the koran in great depth, they can't be wrong with the verses. The scriptures in arabic depicts a flat earth. The koran by belief is very scientific but very little modern inventions are by koran reading muslims.

Maybe Steve Job secretly read the koran for scientific rules and invented IPhone. Lot of muslims would believe me!

 

[duluxe]

WORLD
Jerusalem has history of many conquests, surrenders

Jerusalem has been captured and recaptured at least 20 times. It's been claimed by about as many countries and empires, and by three of the world's major religions.
Here’s a brief history of how a humble village on a scrubby hilltop became the Holy City that provoked centuries of dispute:
3,000 to 2,500 B.C. — The city on the hills separating the fertile Mediterranean coastline of present-day Israel from the arid deserts of Arabia was first settled by pagan tribes in what was later known as the land of Canaan. The Bible says the last Canaanites to rule the city were the Jebusites.
1,000 B.C. — According to archaeological evidence, King David conquered the city. He was warned that "even the blind and the lame can ward you off," the Bible says. He named his conquest The City of David and made it the capital of his new realm.

960 B.C. — David's son Solomon built the first Jewish temple. The Bible says the Israelites also fought many wars against another Canaanite tribe called the Philistines who lived along the southern coastline.
721 B.C. — Assyrians conquered part of the land of Israel called Samaria, and Jewish refugees fled to Jerusalem, causing the city to expand.
701 B.C. — Assyrian ruler Sennacherib laid siege to Jerusalem.
586 B.C. — Babylonian troops occupied the city, destroying the temple and exiling many Jews.

539 B.C. — Persian King Cyrus the Great conquered the Babylonian empire, including Jerusalem.
516 B.C. — King Cyrus allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem to rebuild. The Jews built the Second Temple.
445-425 B.C. — Nehemiah the Prophet rebuilt the walls of the city.
332 B.C. — Alexander the Great of Macedonia took control. After his death, his empire was divided into four, including the Seleucid Empire that contained the land of Israel and their ancient enemies the Philistines (Palestine).
160-167 B.C. — The Jews' Maccabean revolt, launched against the Seleucid Empire and Greek influence, eventually returned the city to Jewish control. The Jewish holiday of Hanukkah celebrates the purification of the Second Temple after the Maccabees reconquered the city.

141 B.C. — The Hasmonean dynasty of Jewish rulers began, and the city grew.
63 B.C. — Roman General Pompey captured Jerusalem.
37 B.C. — Roman client King Herod renovated the Second Temple and added retaining walls, one of which remains today and is called the Western Wall, or the Wailing Wall by Jews.
30 A.D. — Jesus was crucified by the Roman soldiers.
70 — During another Jewish revolt, the Romans destroy their Temple and exile many Jews.
135 — The Romans rebuild Jerusalem as a city of their own.
335 — Roman Emperor Constantine built the Church of the Holy Sepulcher over the spot where Jesus was said to have been buried and to have risen from the dead.

614 — The Persians capture Jerusalem.
629 — Byzantine Christians recapture Jerusalem.
632 — Muhammed, the prophet of Islam, died and was said to ascend to heaven from a rock in the center of where the Jewish Temple used to be.
637 — Caliph Omar entered the city to accept the surrender of its Byzantine ruler, the Patriarch Sophronius.
691 — The Muslim shrine known as Haram al Sharif, or the Dome of the Rock, was built around that spot where Mohamed was said to have risen to heaven, remains there today.

1099-1187 — Christian Crusaders occupied Jerusalem, claiming it as a major religious site.

1187 — Salladin captures Jerusalem from the Crusaders.

1229-1244 — Crusaders recapture Jerusalem twice.

1250 — Muslim rulers dismantle the walls of the city.

1517 — The Ottoman Empire captures Jerusalem and Suleiman the Magnificent rebuilds the walls from 1538 to 1541.

1917 — The British capture Jerusalem in World War I.

1948 — The state of Israel is established, dividing the city between Israel and Jordan.

1967 — Israel captures East Jerusalem and immediately annexed it, granting Arab (Palestinian) residents permanent resident status, but not citizenship.

Sources: History.com, Jewish Virtual Library, Lost Islamic History, B’Tselem

The original people are not Arabs! Evidences are different from islam beliefs, one verse promote rape, another verse forbid!

 

[rushifa666]

jews have been losers for thousands of years. Like china they seem to lose ever war

 

[zeebjii]

The original people are not Arabs! Evidences are different from islam beliefs, one verse promote rape, another verse forbid!

The jews occupying the land today are not the original inhabitants either. Most look european!

 

[A Singaporean]

LOL, like that consider universally accepted historical fact? You standard with historical accuracy is as low as your moral with underage sex.

I also posted these 2 videos, from the arabia camel mouths---The perfect koran says Earth Is Stationary and Doesn't Move, the Sun Rotates Around the Earth.


Saudi Cleric Says Earth Is Stationary and Doesn't Move:

Saudi Cleric Says the Sun Rotates Around the Earth:

The earth is stationary because Allah told us '- Kids TV Show Scholar:

Wow. What great talent. High IQ.

 

[A Singaporean]

Imams studied the koran in great depth, they can't be wrong with the verses. The scriptures in arabic depicts a flat earth. The koran by belief is very scientific but very little modern inventions are by koran reading muslims.

Maybe Steve Job secretly read the koran for scientific rules and invented IPhone. Lot of muslims would believe me!

We having been learning the wrong thing all these times. Give this cleric the Nobel prize for physics.

 

[duluxe]

We having been learning the wrong thing all these times. Give this cleric the Nobel prize for physics.

Given them the Nobel prize for being truthful with the correct reading and intepretation of Quran. They are being honest!

 

[frenchbriefs]

Jerusalem is a Jewish land, the european jews have the ancestry right to return and kick the arab occupants out. The problem with arabs and non related muslims in other parts of the world viewing Israel as land robbed from them.

Sure maybe Jerusalem is a Jewish city, technically that means Israel should not exist,since there never has been an Israel in the history of man.

Also population of Jews in the city/area was small maybe a few hundred thousands at most.

Funny how Jews escaped the desert from the Arabs,and spread across Europe only to be ostracized and hated by amdk themselves and massacred and holocausted until they ran back to the desert.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Black america slaves originated from Africa, where the jews originated from? Just state factually the piece of land on a map.

Yeah where Jews originate from?
Maybe they were black except they had vitiligo like mj.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Given them the Nobel prize for being truthful with the correct reading and intepretation of Quran. They are being honest!

Imagine devoting ur life to interpreting a poorly wrriten piece of fiction.

 

[duluxe]

Sure maybe Jerusalem is a Jewish city, technically that means Israel should not exist,since there never has been an Israel in the history of man.

Also population of Jews in the city/area was small maybe a few hundred thousands at most.

Funny how Jews escaped the desert from the Arabs,and spread across Europe only to be ostracized and hated by amdk themselves and massacred and holocausted until they ran back to the desert.

jews were dispersed all over europe and russian by roman ruler. The jews you see in israel some are ang mohs converted to judaism. Jew can mean race, religion or both.

 

[duluxe]

The jews occupying the land today are not the original inhabitants either. Most look european!

The jews you see in israel some are eastern europe ang mohs converted to judaism. Jew can mean race, religion or both.

 

[syed putra]

Imams studied the koran in great depth, they can't be wrong with the verses. The scriptures in arabic depicts a flat earth. The koran by belief is very scientific but very little modern inventions are by koran reading muslims.

Maybe Steve Job secretly read the koran for scientific rules and invented IPhone. Lot of muslims would believe me!

The quran itself probably written by clerics. You ask any imam if the quran was written by mohamad and they will say nope. It was written by scribes who remenbered or recorded his sayings. We can say its the same with the bible.and yet a huge portion of humanity put their faith in these books, instead of their God given common sense.

 

[syed putra]

The original people are not Arabs! Evidences are different from islam beliefs, one verse promote rape, another verse forbid!

There are no verses in quran that promotes rape nor killing as far as I can tell.

 

[whoami]

Muslims (Ottomans) were always at the forefront to protect the Jews when they were expelled by the christians. Now the Jews turned their backs and backstabbed the Palestinian Muslims. Wat an irony!


The history of the Jews in Anatolia started many centuries before the migration of Sephardic Jews. Remnants of Jewish settlement from the 4th century B.C. have been uncovered in the Aegean region. The historian Josephus Flavius relates that Aristotle "met Jewish people with whom he had an exchange of views during his trip across Asia Minor."

Ancient synagogue ruins have been found in Sardis, near Izmir, dating from 220 B.C. and traces of other Jewish settlements have been discovered near Bursa, in the southeast and along the Aegean, Mediterranean and Black Sea coasts. A bronze column found in Ankara confirms the rights the Emperor Augustus accorded the Jews of Asia Minor.

Jewish communities in Anatolia flourished and continued to prosper through the Turkish conquest. When the Ottomans captured Bursa in 1324 and made it their capital, they found a Jewish community oppressed under Byzantine rule. The Jews welcomed the Ottomans as saviours. Sultan Orhan gave them permission to build the Etz ha-Hayyim (Tree of Life) synagogue which remained in service until 50 years ago.

Early in the 14th century, when the Ottomans had established their capital at Edirne, Jews from Europe, including Karaites, migrated there. Similarly, Jews expelled from Hungary in 1376, from France by Charles VI in September 1394, and from Sicily early in the 15th century found refuge in the Ottoman Empire. In the 1420s, Jews from Salonika then under Venetian control fled to Edirne.

Ottoman rule was much more tolerant than Byzantine rule had been. In fact, from the early 15th century on, the Ottomans actively encouraged Jewish immigration. A letter sent by Rabbi Yitzhak Sarfati (from Edirne) to Jewish communities in Europe in the first part of the century "invited his coreligionists to lease the torments they were enduring in Christendom and to seek safety and prosperity in Turkey".

When Mehmet II "the Conqueror" took Constantinople in 1453, he encountered an oppressed Romaniot (Byzantine) Jewish community which welcomed him with enthusiasm. Sultan Mehmet II issued a proclamation to all Jews "... to ascend the site of the Imperial Throne, to dwell in the best of the land, each beneath his Dine and his fig tree, with silver and with gold, with weath and with cattle...".

In 1470, Jews expelled from Bavaria by Ludwig X found refuge in the Ottoman Empire.

In 1492, the Spanish royal couple Isabelle I and Ferdinand II ordered the expulsion of the Jews from the country - a measure that brought immediate affliction to hundreds of thousands of people rooted there for generations and whose ancestors were buried in the Spanish soil.
Faced with the expulsion of Jews from Spain, Sultan Bayazid II ordered the governors of the provinces of the Ottoman Empire "not to refuse the Jews entry or cause them difficulties, but to receive them cordially". According to Bernard Lewis, "the Jews were not just permitted to settle in the Ottoman lands, but were encouraged, assisted and sometimes even compelled".


Immanual Aboab attributes to Bayazid II the famous remark that "the Catholic monarch Ferdinand was wrongly considered as wise, since he impoverished Spain by the expulsion of the Jews, and enriched Turkey".

The arrival of the Sephardis altered the structure of the community and the original group of Romaniote Jews was totally absorbed.

Over the centuries an increasing number of European Jews, escaping persecution in their native countries, settled in the Ottoman Empire. In 1537 the Jews expelled from Apulia (Italy) after the city fell under Papal control, and in 1542 those expelled from Bohemia by King Ferdinand found a safe haven in the Ottoman Empire. In March of 1556, Sultan Suleyman "the Magnificent" wrote a letter to Pope Paul IV asking for the immediate release of the Ancona Marranos (Jews forcibly baptized), whom he declared to be Ottoman citizens. The Pope had no other alternative than to release them, the Ottoman Empire being the "superpower" of those days.

By 1477, Jewish households in Istanbul numbered 1647 or 11% of the total. Half a century later, 8070 Jewish houses were listed in the city.

For 300 years following the expulsion, the prosperity and creativity of the Ottoman Jews rivalled that of the Golden Age of Spain. Four Turkish cities: Istanbul, Izmir, Safed and Salonika became the centres of Sephardic Jewry.


Most of the court physicians were Jews: Hakim Yakoub, Joseph and Moshe Hamon, Daniel Fonseca, Gabriel Buenaventura to name only very few ones.


One of the most significant innovations that Jews brought to the Ottoman Empire was the printing press. In 1493, only one year after their expulsion from Spain, David & Samuel ibn Nahmias established the first Hebrew printing press in Istanbul.


Ottoman diplomacy was often carried out by Jews. Joseph Nasi, appointed the Duke of Naxos, was the former Portuguese Marrano Joao Miques. Another Portuguese Marrano, Aluaro Mandes, was named Duke of Mytylene in return for his diplomatic services to the Sultan. Salamon ben Nathan Eskenazi arranged the first diplomatic ties with the British Empire. Jewish women such as Dona Gracia Mendes Nasi "La Seniora" and Esther Kyra exercised considerable influence in the Court.

In the free air of the Ottoman Empire, Jewish literature flourished. Joseph Caro compiled the Shulhan Arouh. Shlomo haLevi Alkabes composed the Lekhah Dodi, a hymn which welcomes the Sabbath according to both Sephardic and Ashkenazi ritual. Jacob Culi began to write the famous MeAm Loez. Rabbi Abraham ben Isaac Assa became known as the father of Judeo-Spanish literature.


On October 27,1840, Sultan Abdulmecid issued his famous ferman concerning the "Blood Libel Accusation" saying: "... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth...".


Under Ottoman tradition, each non-Moslem religious community was responsible for its own institutions, including schools. In the early 19th century, Abraham de Camondo established a modern school, "La Escola", causing a serious conflict between conservative and secular rabbis which was only settled by the intervention of Sultan Abdulaziz in 1864. The same year the Takkanot haKehilla (By-laws of the Jewish Community) was published, defining the structure of the Jewish community.


An important event in the life of Ottoman Jews in the 17th century was the schism led by Sabetay Sevi, the pseudo Messiah who lived in Izmir and later adopted Islam with his followers.


Efforts at reform of the Ottoman Empire led to the proclamation of the Hatti Humayun in 1856, which made all Ottoman citizens, Moslem and non-Moslem alike, equal under the law. As a result, leadership of the community began to shift away from the religious establishment to secular forces.

 

[syed putra]

So why whoami hate jews so much?

 

[whoami]

So why whoami hate jews so much?

How come u guys all have short memory/dementia? If u care to refer to my past post i did mention several time i dont hate the good practising orthodox Jews. But i deplore the barbaric actions by the present zionist jews in israel