DTE Killing - Where Are We Now?

[GoldenDragon]

After the killing, the arrests, court appearances etcetc, what is the status of this case today?

All accused persons arrested? Or, some still on-the-run? No report or update of this case for a long time.

Any action to be taken against those who harboured the criminals? There were several who were only arrested much, much later. Have to be consistent here. If MSK's relatives had to go to jail, anyone who harboured criminals on-the-run must also be punished.

Somehow, I sense that the authorities will come down hard on you if you embarrass them sufficiently. This includes lapses on their part too - you pay a higher price.

Agree?

 

[johnny333]

Talking about cover ups. Anyone heard any updates on the investigation of the YOG food poisoning? Who was held responsible? Did any heads roll?

 

[Ramseth]

DTE: I think there're four still remanded. Going for death penalty isn't so quick and easy.

YOG: NOD. Not even police case.

 

[GoldenDragon]

DTE: I think there're four still remanded. Going for death penalty isn't so quick and easy.

YOG: NOD. Not even police case.

You mean they have yet to conclude their investigation? The accused chaps should be charged asap not kept in remand for so long. If they have not completed their investigations, I wonder why? It was a straight-forward case.

Even if some others have yet to be apprehended, surely they can proceed with trial. No need to wait for all to be arrested before going to High Court.
This is a case of public interest and there should not be any unnecessary delay.

 

[Ramseth]

You mean they have yet to conclude their investigation? The accused chaps should be charged asap not kept in remand for so long. If they have not completed their investigations, I wonder why? It was a straight-forward case.

They have been charged in court, for murder. Charged in court and trial are two things; think you appreciate that. They have to prepare their defence too as they're not going to plead guilty to murder and hang just like that.

 

[GoldenDragon]

They have been charged in court, for murder. Charged in court and trial are two things; think you appreciate that. They have to prepare their defence too as they're not going to plead guilty to murder and hang.

After being charged, any idea how long before it goes for trial? During Wee Chong Jin's time, it took years. YPH cut the waiting time admirably. CSK? Let's see.

This is a clear cut case. What happens for other cases whereby the accused is in remand for a long time and gets an acquittal later? Months behind bars for nothing?

Our bet is still on. It won't be murder.

 

[Ramseth]

After being charged, any idea how long before it goes for trial? During Wee Chong Jin's time, it took years. YPH cut the waiting time admirably. CSK? Let's see.

This is a clear cut case. What happens for other cases whereby the accused is in remand for a long time and gets an acquittal later? Months behind bars for nothing?

Our bet is still on. It won't be murder.

There's no such thing as clear cut is such a case. The defence needs to go through all the minute details of the events leading up to the death caused and every one involved. The dead body was there and the act was well witnessed and undisputed. The only way to get out of murder and death penalty is to puncture a hole in intention in the chain of causation.

The charge is already murder. Guilty or not guilty, reduced to manslaughter or even rioting later, we don't know yet. Provocation is also a good defence to reduce murder to manslaughter, but I think the defence should be going for rioting. Yes, it can take months, even years. And yes, if eventually found not guilty, the suspect would be behind bars for nothing.

 

[Forvendet]

There's no such thing as clear cut is such a case. The defence needs to go through all the minute details of the events leading up to the death caused and every one involved. The dead body was there and the act was well witnessed and undisputed. The only way to get out of murder and death penalty is to puncture a hole in intention in the chain of causation.

These are craps invented by lawyers to drag cases and earn more fees. Also craps invented by police to drag cases to make it look complicated worth promotion points. Also craps invented by judges to make themselves look important. All craps. Somebody killed somebody. Hang him! Otherwise abolish the death penalty and don't talk craps wasting everybody's time and money.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Yes, it can take months, even years. And yes, if eventually found not guilty, the suspect would be behind bars for nothing.

Months is palatable. Years isn't. Why the need to wait years to hear a case in High Court? We don't have that many cases going to the HC - High Ct, not health centre. YPH already cleared the backlog. No reason for further delays.

 

[Ramseth]

Months is palatable. Years isn't. Why the need to wait years to hear a case in High Court? We don't have that many cases going to the HC - High Ct, not health centre. YPH already cleared the backlog. No reason for further delays.

Uncle, a drunk driving case claiming trial can take up to two years. YPH was "notorious" for summary judgment to clear HC cases. However, was that in the best interest in the due process of law and upholding of justice? Debatable. A killed B. Hang A. That's it? That's not due process of law.

 

[jw5]

Who are the parents of the accused?

 

[kukubird58]

kukubird says....lock them up..throw away the keys....let them rot.
in this type of cases before...has anyone been convicted of murder?
Bro Zombie....pse help if you dig up something.

 

[annexa]

Everyone is forgetting the City Harvest case already.

 

[middaydog]

The accused chaps should be charged asap not kept in remand for so long. If they have not completed their investigations, I wonder why?

don't know about Singapore le, but some other cuntries for sensational cases they will drag it keep under wrap a little until people forget about it,

you see, they don't want public opinion swaying the judgment of the courts

 

[middaydog]

Everyone is forgetting the City Harvest case already.

week ago saw him at Peninsula hotel, laughing away happy like fux

 

[GoldenDragon]

Uncle, a drunk driving case claiming trial can take up to two years. YPH was "notorious" for summary judgment to clear HC cases. However, was that in the best interest in the due process of law and upholding of justice? Debatable. A killed B. Hang A. That's it? That's not due process of law.

Uncle Ram, drink driving can take years but the accused is not in remand. I understand no bail offered for capital cases that's why they should expedite the process without compromising interests of all parties involved.

 

[Ramseth]

Uncle Ram, drink driving can take years but the accused is not in remand. I understand no bail offered for capital cases that's why they should expedite the process without compromising interests of all parties involved.

How fast is fast? They'd say it's as fast as possible, through the due process of law. It's not only in Singapore. Capital cases in US take years too. You neither acquit nor hang an accused for the sake for expediency without allowing both sides to go through everything to reach conclusivity beyond reasonable doubt. PRC and NK shoot accused pretty fast.