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Dr Tan Khee Giap replied me... pls help!

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<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=cbln>Hi Dr Tan,

You were quote on the Straits Times saying, “WDA should work actively to help citizens get jobs. When these people turn down jobs once, twice, three times, the Government then doesn’t have to make apologies about bringing in foreign workers.”

Rather than just blaming Singaporeans for rejecting the jobs found by WDA, perhaps WDA should do more analysis for the reasons of objections by these Singaporeans? I suspect that salary is the main issue here. How do you expect an over 40 years old retrenched Singaporean with 2 schooling kids and a HDB loan to pay off to survive on $1K+ salary? $1K+ may be alright for foreigners but certainly it's not going to be enough for Singaporeans with families. The main problem is really, we are over importing foreigners which in turn depresses our salaries in Singapore.

Many netizens are throwing brickbats at you. You might want to read all about it here: [URL="http://www.temasekreview.com/"]http://www.temasekreview.com/<!--<WBR />-->2010/03/23/lky-school-prof-<!--<WBR />-->singaporeans-are-protesting-<!--<WBR />-->too-much-that-foreigners-are-<!--<WBR />-->taking-away-their-jobs/[/URL]

Sometimes, it's good for the elites to come down from their ivory towers to mix more with the ground before saying anything.


Yours sincerely,

Kojakbt


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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"></TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>2:28 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right>(2 of 8) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"></TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>30542.2 in reply to 30542.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt><TABLE id=mm class="mhc h" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=fhr><TD class=au>Tan Khee Giap <TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 0px" width="100%"><TABLE class=rc cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=_mr_1278e8367fcceb15>to me

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=cbln>Dear Kojak,
You suspect that salary is the main issue here, but I do not suspect because I am actually based on facts, the salary level is certainly bot as you suspect because if you take income supplement in and others it is closer to 2k per month and there are many job types too.
Very often it is easier to be popular rather than telling the truth, because the truth hurts. Some Singaporeans must rethink and readjust
I am not staying at Ivory tower, I have been staying in Jurong west HDB for more than ten years since 1994.

Best regards, khee Giap





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<TABLE class=msgtablealt cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"></TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>holeinmany <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>2:38 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR>unread</TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right>(7 of 9) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"></TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>30542.7 in reply to 30542.2 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>He is just fucking with your mind.
1) You state that you suspect salary is the issue
2) He replies that with his data, he can prove that salary is not the issue
3) In other words, it is not a salary issue and Singaporeans are being choosy
Point of debate lost already cos as he stated, salary is not the issue.
You must ask him if salary is not the issue - what are the contributing factors. His "data" must and should show the co-relationship between the other factors and not wanting a certain job




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He has been fishing for a tea invite for years.

Last time, he thought that under Lim Chong Yah, he "made it". Unfortunately his mentor got him to write a paper criticising the FT policy.He was whacked by Minister Ng while his mentor disappeared.

Must be that by now, still no tead invite.

So desperately sprouting pro-FT comments in hope that someone will notice and invite him for tea.

The things people will do to try and become a PAP MP ...:mad:
 
He has been fishing for a tea invite for years.

Last time, he thought that under Lim Chong Yah, he "made it". Unfortunately his mentor got him to write a paper criticising the FT policy.He was whacked by Minister Ng while his mentor disappeared.

Must be that by now, still no tead invite.

So desperately sprouting pro-FT comments in hope that someone will notice and invite him for tea.

The things people will do to try and become a PAP MP ...:mad:

He has been invited for tea and even cupcakes already. Soon after his attack against MOM, he was whacked by NG ENG HEN IN THE 154th. Soon< he was pictured in the 154th, at a gathering involving GCTs wife and GIAP was pictured in the front row clapping his hands. The article and the accompanying picure was in the 154th.

Just ask GIAP why can"t the PAP garment do what other first world countries do in terms of stopping FTs from coming in to the domestic market? UK, USA etc all have stringent programmes to protect their indigenuous labour force.

For low to mid_level positions, FTs actually pay an employment agency to get hired here. The money trickles down to HR managers and bosses. everybody seems to benefit, inlcuding property developers.

But the SG worker is screwed and worse if the SG worker has NS liabilities.

Ask GIAP whether his data includes such real-world, rampant practices in a growingly SME economic climiate in SG which will only exacerbate the issue with time.

Ask GIAP,

Tell GIAP that where he lives and how much savings he has and where his savings are is irrelevant. He is supposed to be use data to state the facts, not to influence issues. If so, then why did he have to tell us where he stays and for how long! Is GIAP trying to use his personal data to influence his other data???

Tell GIAP that Singapore needs people like him BUT we need him to help Singaporeans and the best way he can help is to be a part of the Alternative Parties.

MERDEKA from the PAP!!!!!!!!!
MERDEKA for Singapore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MERDEKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I honestly don't think so. Most people who are invited are asked to keep a low profile.

If you see people making strange statements like "I am ready to join" or blatantly pro-FT statements, then there is a high chance they were not sucessful and trying desperately to get selected.
 
AFter deducting CPF,what is left is less than 2K. Can Singaporeans survived this amount? Did the professor factored in meals, transport and other rental cost paid to HDB. Who will benefit more for the less than $2K salary - foreigners or Singaporeans? Are there statistics to prove that WDA has many $2k job in their database for BLUE COLLAR workers? Does the professor believe that diploma/degree white collar Singaporeans should accept SGD2K job? Can he answer all these questions.
 
He is lucky that he didn't engage me in verbal battle. My 'courtesy' will blind him.
 
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He was subsequently co-opted, I recall someone mention in the old forums that he was sent to actively rebut critics of PAP using his disingeneous pseudo-intellectual arguments.
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Hi all,

Just in case you don't know. Tan Khee Giap is a FT from Malaysia. So, which side do you expect him to take on FT issue?
 
all these por lumpar mother fuckers!

Hi all,

Just in case you don't know. Tan Khee Giap is a FT from Malaysia. So, which side do you expect him to take on FT issue?
 
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