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Dr Tan Cheng Bock fixed Chee Soon Juan

zeroo

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‪#‎NotISayOne‬. Dr Tan Cheng Bock continued: "Sir, in passing judgment on the four SDP representors, we face a section of Singaporeans who think that we are trying to do the Opposition in. It is not a question of whether these four people are Opposition members or not. It is clearly a question of what must be done to a group of people who swear to tell the truth in Parliament but clearly did not. We in Parliament must do what is right and correct, or this House would be taken too lightly by those who wish to present their case before Select Committees. In other words, we are dealing with the conduct of the representors, not their political affiliations. "

11-12-1996 COMMITTEE OF PRIVILEGES REPORT. Dr Tan Cheng Bock rises to support the motion: (1) that Parliament impose on Dr Chee Soon Juan a fine of $25,000;
(2) that Parliament impose on Mr Wong Hong Toy a fine of $13,000;
(3) that Parliament impose on Mr S. Kunalen a fine of $8,000; and
(4) that Parliament impose on Mr Kwan Yue Keng a fine of
$5,000
for their contempt of Parliament.
Hansard: http://bit.ly/1Fr5Tba
Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) Chee Soon Juan
 

zeroo

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What did Dr Tan Cheng Bock say about SDP's Dr Chee Soon Juan?
1996 Dr Tan Cheng Bock quoted a Berita Harian's article by Noraini Hamzah to support the motion to fine Dr Chee Soon Juan $25,000 for Contempt of Parliament:
[On 20th July 1996, I read in the Berita Harian an article which clearly tells you the character of Dr Chee. It was headlined Kecewa dengan sikap dan cara Dr Chee semasa perbahasan. Translated it means, "Disappointed with Dr Chee's attitude and manner during the debate." I will quote the translated version. It is very short:
`Disappointed with Dr Chee's attitude and manner during the debate - by Noraini Hamzah. I recorded Monday, July 15, as an important date in my diary because representatives of the Singapore Democratic Party were scheduled to speak in front of the Select Committee to study Government subsidies for hospitals and polyclinics. It gives the SDP's General Secretary, Dr Chee Soon Juan, and his colleagues the opportunity to explain their stand. I imagine the meeting to be serious as the SDP's allegations were grave. Were the allegations founded? The day I had been waiting for came, but I was disappointed. In following the 8-hour discussion on television in the reporters' room at Parliament House, I observed that Members of the Select Committee panel were obviously very serious in presenting their questions, views and statements. Nonetheless, I cannot say the same for Dr Chee who became the lone voice of the 4 SDP representatives there. My observation of Dr Chee was that he twisted his answers. He often deviated from the matters discussed, blamed others. He was dishonest in his answers and he did not observe the Select Committee proceedings. He often condemned the panel members. In short, he appeared to be playing politics through his answers. His conduct made it necessary for the Chairman of the Select Committee, Mr Tan Soo Khoon, to warn him on several occasions.'
She went on to discuss about the proceedings and she concluded, and I quote:
`The hearing went beyond 11 pm. Some people might consider Dr Chee a hero for being firm in his position, but I was quite fed up with Dr Chee's arrogance and his stubbornness in not admitting the mistakes in his figures. I was not the only one. My colleague who had all along respected Dr Chee stated, "I lost my respect for Dr Chee from today onwards." Was the SDP sincere in bringing up the issue of health care subsidies? I doubt it. As a former university lecturer, Dr Chee must have realised that an undergraduate would fail in his examinations if he distorted his answers or deviated from the questions asked.'
This is how she concluded:
`As a mother, can I tell my children that it is not wrong to be disrespectful and to distort answers? Certainly not.'
Mr Speaker, Sir, this was the observation of a newspaper reporter, not by the PAP. The comment reflected the feelings of someone who was present at the hearing. Yet, the latest paper of the SDP, The New Democrat, sees a repetition of all the points brought up by the SDP representors. They obviously do not care and do not intend to hear the truth. This is not the correct way to change things. Change will come not with making political statements, but with sound alternatives that will win the hearts and minds of all educated Singaporeans.]
source - Hansard: http://bit.ly/1Fr5Tba
 

winnipegjets

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‪#‎NotISayOne‬. Dr Tan Cheng Bock continued: "Sir, in passing judgment on the four SDP representors, we face a section of Singaporeans who think that we are trying to do the Opposition in. It is not a question of whether these four people are Opposition members or not. It is clearly a question of what must be done to a group of people who swear to tell the truth in Parliament but clearly did not. We in Parliament must do what is right and correct, or this House would be taken too lightly by those who wish to present their case before Select Committees. In other words, we are dealing with the conduct of the representors, not their political affiliations. "

11-12-1996 COMMITTEE OF PRIVILEGES REPORT. Dr Tan Cheng Bock rises to support the motion: (1) that Parliament impose on Dr Chee Soon Juan a fine of $25,000;
(2) that Parliament impose on Mr Wong Hong Toy a fine of $13,000;
(3) that Parliament impose on Mr S. Kunalen a fine of $8,000; and
(4) that Parliament impose on Mr Kwan Yue Keng a fine of
$5,000
for their contempt of Parliament.
Hansard: http://bit.ly/1Fr5Tba
Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) Chee Soon Juan
Ministars have been lying in Parliament all the time ...just that they can get away with it because of the majority the PAP has in Parliament.
 

winnipegjets

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#5
What did Dr Tan Cheng Bock say about SDP's Dr Chee Soon Juan?
1996 Dr Tan Cheng Bock quoted a Berita Harian's article by Noraini Hamzah to support the motion to fine Dr Chee Soon Juan $25,000 for Contempt of Parliament:
[On 20th July 1996, I read in the Berita Harian an article which clearly tells you the character of Dr Chee. It was headlined Kecewa dengan sikap dan cara Dr Chee semasa perbahasan. Translated it means, "Disappointed with Dr Chee's attitude and manner during the debate." I will quote the translated version. It is very short:
`Disappointed with Dr Chee's attitude and manner during the debate - by Noraini Hamzah. I recorded Monday, July 15, as an important date in my diary because representatives of the Singapore Democratic Party were scheduled to speak in front of the Select Committee to study Government subsidies for hospitals and polyclinics. It gives the SDP's General Secretary, Dr Chee Soon Juan, and his colleagues the opportunity to explain their stand. I imagine the meeting to be serious as the SDP's allegations were grave. Were the allegations founded? The day I had been waiting for came, but I was disappointed. In following the 8-hour discussion on television in the reporters' room at Parliament House, I observed that Members of the Select Committee panel were obviously very serious in presenting their questions, views and statements. Nonetheless, I cannot say the same for Dr Chee who became the lone voice of the 4 SDP representatives there. My observation of Dr Chee was that he twisted his answers. He often deviated from the matters discussed, blamed others. He was dishonest in his answers and he did not observe the Select Committee proceedings. He often condemned the panel members. In short, he appeared to be playing politics through his answers. His conduct made it necessary for the Chairman of the Select Committee, Mr Tan Soo Khoon, to warn him on several occasions.'
She went on to discuss about the proceedings and she concluded, and I quote:
`The hearing went beyond 11 pm. Some people might consider Dr Chee a hero for being firm in his position, but I was quite fed up with Dr Chee's arrogance and his stubbornness in not admitting the mistakes in his figures. I was not the only one. My colleague who had all along respected Dr Chee stated, "I lost my respect for Dr Chee from today onwards." Was the SDP sincere in bringing up the issue of health care subsidies? I doubt it. As a former university lecturer, Dr Chee must have realised that an undergraduate would fail in his examinations if he distorted his answers or deviated from the questions asked.'
This is how she concluded:
`As a mother, can I tell my children that it is not wrong to be disrespectful and to distort answers? Certainly not.'
Mr Speaker, Sir, this was the observation of a newspaper reporter, not by the PAP. The comment reflected the feelings of someone who was present at the hearing. Yet, the latest paper of the SDP, The New Democrat, sees a repetition of all the points brought up by the SDP representors. They obviously do not care and do not intend to hear the truth. This is not the correct way to change things. Change will come not with making political statements, but with sound alternatives that will win the hearts and minds of all educated Singaporeans.]
source - Hansard: http://bit.ly/1Fr5Tba
Why the sudden interests in CSJ? Digging out history to tarnish a reputable opposition politician. Feeling some heat, is it?
 

JohnTan

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#7
Chee fixed himself by presenting inaccurate data in order to score political points. He ended up shooting himself in the foot. It's quite obvious that the SDP is a one-man party too, not much better than the SPP.
 

Cosmos10

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Countering the PAP's smear tactics at the next GE


http://yoursdp.org/news/extracts_from_the_book/2015-04-10-5985


Added on: Friday, 10 April 2015

by the Singapore Democrats




Through the decades, the PAP has run a vicious and relentless attack campaign against Dr Chee Soon Juan. With the GE around the corner, it is expected that the PAP will resort to this dirty tactic again.

To counter the propaganda, the SDP has published a new book Teacher Thinker Rebel Why? Portraits of Chee Soon Juan written by people who know or have worked with the SDP secretary-general. Here are some of the things they said:




Dr Chee was not just content to speak up for the people. He was the guy who constantly and deliberately ran into the electric fence to remind us we were prisoners.

I resented him for it because I would rather pretend the fence was there to keep us safe.

- Joshua Chiang, former editor of TOC





Chee’s mode of political action, situated in the liberal democratic value system, like Gandhi’s, is to challenge laws which are unjust and unfair in a way that seemed totally out of sync with Singapore’s political and social culture.

- Constance Singam, former president of AWARE





His prose is precise, his tone inspiring, and his idealism infectious. I have come to identify with his compassion and empathy for the lot of the poor, socially disadvantaged and politically disenfranchised, and to appreciate his perseverance in fighting for a fairer and better Singapore.

He opened my eyes to the tyranny of unjust laws imposed by authoritarian regimes and taught me that there can never be justice without freedom, and vice versa.

- Dr Tan Lip Hong & Dr Leong Yan Hoi, SDP healthcare advisors





Soon Juan’s years as a lone wolf nibbling at unjust laws, policies and government, at huge personal costs to himself, restores my faith in politicians. For all that he has done, he deserves much more than just quiet support from us.

If Singaporeans continue to stay on the sidelines and watch others fight on their behalf, the comet would burn itself out and we would be thrown back into darkness.

- Dr Wong Souk Yee, NUS Lecturer





But all those who have come in contact with him personally felt that the characterization of Dr Chee as a “near psychopath” was totally unfair.

He chose the path of civil disobedience when it was not popular and paid the price for his actions with many spells in jail. While these actions may have turned off many Singaporeans who are by nature risk-averse, I think that they showed a rare personal commitment to the cause of democracy.

- Prof Paul Tambyah, SDP healthcare advisor





CSJ never failed to listen to my arguments and very often saw my point of view. A real leader is one who listens as much as he speaks. And I know CSJ takes the time to listen and consider differing views.

- Jaslyn Go, SDP Asst Treasurer






Dr Chee has led a struggle for true democracy in the country he loves for over 20 years through the leading roles he has held in the Party. He has been a leading light too in the creation of the Council of Asian Liberals and Democrats.

- Sir Graham Watson, former MEP






Like many Asian democrats, Dr Chee and I have often asked these questions: Why must it be a choice between development and democracy when in fact the two are not mutually exclusive?

Dr Chee is a democrat; Dr Chee is a patriot. He is not against the economic gains of Singapore. He is not against the free market. He is merely asking valid questions like how much of this wealth trickles down to the majority of the people.

- Sam Rainsy MP and Leader of the Opposition, Cambodia







The fact that he was willing to let Chiam See Tong come back as a leader to a party that Soon Juan had invested all his youth and kept afloat with all his sacrifices says a lot to me about his dedication.

- Dr Wong Wee Nam. SDP healthcare advisor


Come to the launch on 11 April 2015, Saturday and get the book for $20.

Or order a copy online here or email us at [email protected]

Proceeds from the sales will go to the SDP's GE campaign.

So get your copy and let's get Dr Chee and the SDP into Parliament!



 
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Cosmos10

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..... It's quite obvious that the SDP is a one-man party too, not much better than the SPP.
One-man party huh?

It is ok, we will just let the PAP continues to underestimate the SDP!

The more the PAP has a false sense of security, the better it will be for the opposition parties in Singapore! Cheers!:smile:








 
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3_M

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The fine was imposed despite the fact that CSJ and his party colleagues were given full parliamentary immunity during the hearing. This serve as a good reality check to those SDP and JBJ diehards who all along accuse WP of going soft and not making full use of their parliamentary immunity to whack the govt.

Parliamentary immunity is just an illusion.
 
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Satyr

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Chee fixed himself by presenting inaccurate data in order to score political points. He ended up shooting himself in the foot. It's quite obvious that the SDP is a one-man party too, not much better than the SPP.
The PAP has not succeeded in getting beyond a one man party themselves. That man is now gone.
 
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Stir stir stir ah stir only.

If TCB really hated the opposition and was super-white, why the hell would he speak up for the opposition in the same Parliament then?

"Dr Tan Cheng Bock asked the First Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence whether the Government recognises the desire of Singaporeans to have an opposition in Parliament even though they want the People's Action Party in charge of the Government, and whether Town Councils will frustrate this desire as voters may be reluctant to vote in opposition Members of Parliament whose administrative skills may still be untested."

He even went against his long time buddy Goh Chok Tong and argued with him over that.

It's clear Chee in this case did wrong.

"... I came out feeling sad and disappointed that a person like Chee, with a doctorate, could act and behave in such a manner, unbecoming of a man of his standing as a lecturer and researcher.

Sir, from the very start, if you will remember, without seeking your permission, he took it upon himself the task of rearranging the seating arrangement laid out by Parliament. And this prompted you, Mr Speaker, to reprimand him and ordered him to refrain from such actions unless the Chair's permission is sought. But this behaviour reflected the arrogant attitude of the representor. Throughout the many sessions, there were attempts after attempts to show data, figures and charts that were obviously incorrect or not substantiated."


Chee is a nice guy, but in this case, he was wrong. TCB only presented his own observations. Did he take action or sue Chee, like GCT or LKY did? No what.
 
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