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Does WP award their cadreship based on the colour of the skin?

skponggol

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http://theonlinecitizen.com/2012/05/sajeev-kamalasanan-resigns-from-the-workers-party/

According to the TOC editors, out WP's 23 candidates contested in GE2011, only 5 were not made cadre. Three of them are minority candidates. The 2 Chinese candidates being Angela Oon (for reason widely known), and Watson Chong.

Hard Truths: Why is it so easy for the 15 Chinese candidates, out 17 of them in GE2011 (ie 88%), to obtain their cadreship? Why is it so damn bloody difficult for the 3 minority candidates, out of 6 of them in GE2011 (50%) , to be rewarded their cadreship?

Does WP has different set of criterias for awarding cadreship based on the colour of the skin? Is WP still practising Apartheid?

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zeddy

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The stats are clear. WP is racist.
So what is Pritam still doing there?

Ho..Ho..Ho.. Will Tharman gets the top job when the PM retires in the future?

Your beloved LKY already said that Singapore is not yet ready for an Indian prime minister.. So why is Tharman and Shanmugam still doin there?
 

myfoot123

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http://theonlinecitizen.com/2012/05/sajeev-kamalasanan-resigns-from-the-workers-party/

Hard Truths: Why is it so easy for the 15 Chinese candidates, out 17 of them in GE2011 (ie 88%), to obtain their cadreship? Why is it so damn bloody difficult for the 3 minority candidates, out of 6 of them in GE2011 (50%) , to be rewarded their cadreship?

Does WP has different set of criterias for awarding cadreship based on the colour of the skin? Is WP still practising Apartheid?

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No, not truth. They based on human factors like emotional maturity, calibre and passion. Those who left WP lack these very 3 important elements LTK was looking for. Based on past history, we also see couple of chinese left the party when they felt it challenging to serve the opposition. These people wanted to make a quick mark for themselves and wanted a fast win. LTK ever warned people who joined opposition that if they only wanted to win, than oppositon is not the place for them to seek victory, so they better join PAP. That sums up why people leave because they are people who illusionalise too much.
 

Kinana

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Ho..Ho..Ho.. Will Tharman gets the top job when the PM retires in the future?

Your beloved LKY already said that Singapore is not yet ready for an Indian prime minister.. So why is Tharman and Shanmugam still doin there?

He has a very good chance. Already deputy PM, minister finance, manpower, education, even chairman of IMF steering committee.
Why WP sill so old fashion look down on Indians?
 
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the evidence is not conclusive that WP is a racist party.

please furnish with more conclusive evidence.

thank you!
 

skponggol

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Based on past history, we also see couple of chinese left the party when they felt it challenging to serve the opposition. These people wanted to make a quick mark for themselves and wanted a fast win.

Then why did Sylvia Lim single out the Indian community with such venomous racist remark:

"That it has been the party’s experience that Indians tend to leave after getting party cadreship".
 

deepblue0911

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He has a very good chance. Already deputy PM, minister finance, manpower, education, even chairman of IMF steering committee. Why WP sill so old fashion look down on Indians?

I think you should respond to zeddy directly. How do you compare LKY's remark about Singapore being not ready for an Indian PM, to Mr. Sajeev's allegations against SL?

This racism line is bad for politics in Singapore. We should stop this as the racial card will divide Singapore, regardless of whether the charges of racism is hurled against WP or PAP. As a small multi-racial society. We can't afford to become fragmented on the subject of race.
 
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skponggol

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the evidence is not conclusive that WP is a racist party.

please furnish with more conclusive evidence.

thank you!

WP, who are seeking mandate from electorates, should furnish the public with conclusive evidence that they are not a racist party.

Sylvia Lim, for a start, should admit or deny categorically whether she ever made that racist remark to Sadeep , ie Indians are more prone to leave the party after obtaining cadreship.

WP should also release info on their cadreship, ie what is the proportion of minority among their cadres.

If WP is not a racist party and claim to be a 'First World Party', as well a sbeing 'Transparent' and 'Accountable', surely they would be able to fulfill such simple task.

So, what's there for them to hide?

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zeddy

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He has a very good chance. Already deputy PM, minister finance, manpower, education, even chairman of IMF steering committee.
Why WP sill so old fashion look down on Indians?

Have you made an appointment with Professor Zeng yet? Your memory is failing you once again.

What about Mr Pritam Singh.. Is he not an Indian? I'm not goin to enter a silly race debate with you.. Mr Pritam Singh is a good young capable leader.. He'll be one of the future leaders of the Workers Party..
 

skponggol

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I think this racism line is bad for politics in Singapore. We should stop this as the racial card will divide Singapore, regardless of whether the charges of racism is hurled against WP or PAP. As a small multi-racial society. We can't afford to become fragmented on the subject of race.

Nobody stopped and exposed Hitler when he played the race card against the Jewish minority because it's bad for politics in Germany.

If somebody dares to play the race card to solicit votes, like WP is doing, it is the responsibility of every conscientious human being to stop and expose them before it's too late.

There should be ZERO tolerance for racism in politics ! Period !

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deepblue0911

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Nobody stopped and exposed Hitler when he played the race card against the Jewish minority because it's bad for politics in Germany.

If somebody dares to play the race card to solicit votes, like WP is doing, it is the responsibility of every conscientious human being to stop and expose them before it's too late.

There should be ZERO tolerance for racism in politics ! Period !

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Are you against racism per se? Or are you against WP, using racism as the tool?
 

bullfrog

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Sorry, hor..no special rights for Indians..only Malays.

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http://theonlinecitizen.com/2012/05/sajeev-kamalasanan-resigns-from-the-workers-party/

According to the TOC editors, out WP's 23 candidates contested in GE2011, only 5 were not made cadre. Three of them are minority candidates. The 2 Chinese candidates being Angela Oon (for reason widely known), and Watson Chong.

Hard Truths: Why is it so easy for the 15 Chinese candidates, out 17 of them in GE2011 (ie 88%), to obtain their cadreship? Why is it so damn bloody difficult for the 3 minority candidates, out of 6 of them in GE2011 (50%) , to be rewarded their cadreship?

Does WP has different set of criterias for awarding cadreship based on the colour of the skin? Is WP still practising Apartheid?

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myfoot123

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Then why did Sylvia Lim single out the Indian community with such venomous racist remark:

"That it has been the party’s experience that Indians tend to leave after getting party cadreship".

Oh really? that is a mild opinion from SL. I would have used a more harsh and comprehensive tone such as:

"We have tried to groom and give the indian opportunity to prove their loyalty but they wanted more for themselves than we could possibly provide and thus they leave prematurely. Will you be the same? Please prove to us another term since you weren't active in the last term, so that we have better understanding of where you came from and you will be rewarded accordingly. At least, you must prove yourselves to the constituents you served, and not nagging us for rewards. Community comes before self. "

Instead Sajeev did not want to prove himself, as what SL has foreseen, he went around throwing bad vibes about SL and the party. End of the day, his own racism drag down the whole of Indian community within Singapore. The damage came from him and no one else.:oIo:
 

skponggol

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Are you against racism per se? Or are you against WP, using racism as the tool?

Although I am 100% anti-WP, I'm also 100% anti-racism. If other parties were to play the race card, I would also stand against them.

The question is: do you still continue to support and defend WP despite their unwillingness and inability to clarify charges of racism, despite their reluctance to speak up for the minority community?

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