Dalai Lama receives US award

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Dalai Lama receives US award
Last Updated : 21 Feb 2010 02:38:13 AM


WASHINGTON: Having irked China with his meeting with US President Barack Obama at the White House, the Dalai Lama continues to add to Beijing’s annoyance by holding forth on its totalitarian rule in contrast to flourishing democracies like the one in India.

Accepting an award from the National Endowment for Democracy at the Library of Congress, he said the time has come for China’s Communist Party leadership to “retire with grace”.

Asserting that the Communist dispensation lacked popular support, he asked China’s rulers to make way for democracy.

“Change must come through people. Protection of individual human rights is very vital for the development of the society,” he said.

During his remarks, he sought to compare and contrast the political milieu in India and China. At one point, he quipped: “I found a big difference between Indian and Chinese Parliaments. In Chinese Parliament there is too much silence and in the Indian one there is too much noise.”

The award ceremony came a day after President Obama received the Dalai Lama at White House, sparking an outburst from Beijing by summoning the US envoy.

Funded by the US Congress, the Endowment hailed the Dalai Lama for supporting a democratic government in exile.
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Poll: Most Americans say Tibet should be independent
February 18, 2010 6:39 a.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- Nearly three-quarters of all Americans think Tibet should be an independent country, according to a new national poll.

The poll's release came as President Obama was to meet with the Dalai Lama, Tibet's spiritual leader in exile, at the White House.

The Dalai Lama is popular with Americans, according to the survey, with 56 percent holding a favorable view of him and only 18 percent having an unfavorable impression.

"That puts him in the same neighborhood as other major religious figures," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Favorable ratings for the pope, at 59 percent, and Billy Graham, at 57 percent, are virtually identical to the numbers for the Dalai Lama."

The poll also indicates that 53 percent say it's more important for the United States to take a strong stand on human rights in China than to maintain good relations with Beijing, with 44 percent saying good relations are more important.

By a 6-point margin, the survey also shows that more Americans say taking a strong stand on Taiwan by force is more important than maintaining good relations with Beijing.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted February 12-15, with 1,023 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the overall survey.
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[longbow]

75% also thought that Obama was doing a good job. I think it is now at 45% and falling.

I believe that 90% of Pakistanis believe that Kashmir should belong to them 90% of Kashmiris want independence and India thinks it belongs to them.

If you ask Tamils to vote in a referendum for independent Tamil Nadu, chances are that they will go for it.

Fact is that Tamil Nadu is part of India, Tibet is part of China as per international auspices so that is that. It is irrelevant as to what people from another country think.

Poll: Most Americans say Tibet should be independent
February 18, 2010 6:39 a.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- Nearly three-quarters of all Americans think Tibet should be an independent country, according to a new national poll.

The poll's release came as President Obama was to meet with the Dalai Lama, Tibet's spiritual leader in exile, at the White House.

The Dalai Lama is popular with Americans, according to the survey, with 56 percent holding a favorable view of him and only 18 percent having an unfavorable impression.

"That puts him in the same neighborhood as other major religious figures," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Favorable ratings for the pope, at 59 percent, and Billy Graham, at 57 percent, are virtually identical to the numbers for the Dalai Lama."

The poll also indicates that 53 percent say it's more important for the United States to take a strong stand on human rights in China than to maintain good relations with Beijing, with 44 percent saying good relations are more important.

By a 6-point margin, the survey also shows that more Americans say taking a strong stand on Taiwan by force is more important than maintaining good relations with Beijing.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted February 12-15, with 1,023 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the overall survey.
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[longbow]

Here is interesting pov.

http://transitionalstates.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2009/12/15/indias-separatist-problem/


By andrewswift Tuesday, December 15 7:07 pm EST

I’ve wanted to touch on a major development in Indian politics: the partition of the state of Andhra Pradesh. Residents of Hyderabad and its surrounding environs claimed, in the most basic sense, that the surrounding rural areas were depriving them of its proper share of economic growth/wealth. After a dramatic hunger strike, by K. Chandrasekhar Rao, which gripped the nation, the government agreed to carve out the new state of Telangana from AP.

As touched on this blog a few times before, the state of India is not a nation-state—it is indeed a multi-ethnic empire, binding together many territories that have shared no common historical narrative. The idea of India is an imagined comunity, and not a particularly strong one at that. Citizens identify closer with their regional state and area than with India as a whole.

Thus, it would not be difficult to see a future where the Telangana row because increasingly common. India’s economic inequality is horrific—and if wealthier citizens and states start believing the poor are holding them back, the entire social fabric of the Indian ‘nation’ could collapse.

Furthermore, the state already faces a Maoist separatist movement/rebellion in its east/northeast (primarily in the northeast), and the issue of Kashmir in the north/northwest is ever looming over stability and peace in South Asia. These internal fractures make it much more likely that the future of India’s political system will have a weak central government that is even less powerful vis-a-vis the states than it is today. Power projection further afield (read: Pakistan) could be used as a way to bind the nation together—it could just as easily tear it apart, as regional areas not affected by any crisis may question why they’re fighting a war for a state (say, Gujarat or Punjab) that they’ve never been to, don’t ever plan on going to, and don’t know anyone else who has gone to.

 

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Reads like a powder keg to me.

Here is another:

BANGALORE, India — In recent months Hyderabad, a booming technology center in southeastern India, has turned into a violent battle zone and the chief bone of dispute over the creation of a separate Indian state called Telangana.

Those fighting for Telangana have proposed a boundary that includes Hyderabad, a modern, thriving Indian city. The city is home to large facilities of multinationals such as Google, Oracle, Dell and Microsoft.

Hyderabad, an example of the country’s recent economic success, is currently the capital of the existing Andhra Pradesh state. Some 6 million of its residents are now caught in the crossfire, as mobs have burned buses, and attacked offices and malls in the city.

Regionalism has long been the bane of a vast and populous India where development has been in spells and bursts and progress, therefore, largely uneven. “Economic reasons dominate in the demand for creating new states,” says Supriya Roy Chowdhury, a professor at Bangalore’s Institute for Social and Economic Change.

The Manmohan Singh government in New Delhi is facing deep censure for its sudden decision to cave in to pressure tactics by giving in to demands for the creation of a new state. The leader of the separatist Telangana movement had gone on a Mahatma Gandhi-like fast-unto-death. After 11 days the New Delhi government feared for his life.

But the government’s appeasement tactic may backfire and open the proverbial Pandora’s Box. At least six separatist groups across India are now demanding the creation of new states.
In the last few years, Hyderabad has been trying hard to play catch-up with its neighbor Bangalore, India’s technology hub. Hyderabad’s gleaming modern airport and new flyovers and expressways have changed the face of the city.

But the city has faced a series of setbacks recently. The chief minister of Andhra Pradesh Chandrababu Naidu, in whose time the city was christened “Cyberabad” because of its hi-tech progress and aggressive investment-seeking tactics abroad, was defeated soundly in an election.

 

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75% also thought that Obama was doing a good job. I think it is now at 45% and falling.

I believe that 90% of Pakistanis believe that Kashmir should belong to them 90% of Kashmiris want independence and India thinks it belongs to them.

If you ask Tamils to vote in a referendum for independent Tamil Nadu, chances are that they will go for it.

Fact is that Tamil Nadu is part of India, Tibet is part of China as per international auspices so that is that. It is irrelevant as to what people from another country think.

Just a few months ago elections was held in Kashmir by India and they elected their own leaders to rule the state. Voter participation was above 60%. That is the present situation now.

Tamil Nadu state has never shown any separatist inclinations at any time.
So many of the federal ministers in Delhi are from Tamil Nadu.

What gives next ?

 

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'India would have more influence than China in years to come'
Washington, Feb 20 (PTI)

Rebuking the Chinese leadership for losing touch with real socialism, the 74-year old Nobel peace Prize winner Dalai Lama said it is India which will have greater influence in the world than China.

India has "democracy, (is) transparent and has free information, open society and independent judiciary," which was not the case with China, he said, describing Manmohan Singh as a "saintly Prime Minister".

"So these are very much lacking in People's Republic of China, unfortunately. So the hardliner Communist leadership, they do not see the holistic picture in order to bring genuine, happy society," he noted.

The 74-year old Nobel peace Prize winner said in countries like the US and India, even Prime Ministers and Presidents were accountable to the judiciary.

In China, however, "you can't imagine... the leader should go to court. Court is Party's court. Army also Party's army. But name very beautiful: People's Army. People's government. People's Republic. But actually, no people, no public. Only officials. Only party member," he said.

Highly appreciative of Manmohan Singh, the Dalai Lama described him as a saintly prime minister.

"Sometimes I describe him as a saintly prime minister. (He is) very nice. His record (is) very clean. His face also looks like saint," the Dalai Lama said.

Criticising the Chinese leadership, he said the leaders do not care about Marxist socialism, but only capitalism, and think nothing but making money.

"Actually, today China's Communist Party is a Communist Party without a Communist ideology," he said.

 

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75% also thought that Obama was doing a good job. I think it is now at 45% and falling.

I believe that 90% of Pakistanis believe that Kashmir should belong to them 90% of Kashmiris want independence and India thinks it belongs to them.

If you ask Tamils to vote in a referendum for independent Tamil Nadu, chances are that they will go for it.

Fact is that Tamil Nadu is part of India, Tibet is part of China as per international auspices so that is that. It is irrelevant as to what people from another country think.

Actually what u say is correct yet for some f8cking unknown reason only certain countries have that right.

Let's say mexico wants to claim and mind you texas was seccedded to USA after the war with mexico and this time round texans want to go back to mexico. Do you think the americans will say yes to that? Obviously not. This is the fact with any country in the world.

Russia won't give up chechnia for eg, india won't give up any state even those states like the north eastern states it discriminates against.

Yet of course only countries like china are seen as bullies when pratically any other world power has been doing it. How did USA get so rich and powerful and large?

Obviously by going to war with the many surrounding countries, european countries etc etc and even sabotaging many south american countries via CIA yet nope never held accountable always have the moral high ground. India is even worse. Caste system, all forms of corruption, Then they say we have largest democracy in the world cos their population is so large. OK all their fuck ups are swept under the carpet.

China has improved the lives of many tibetians, nope totally ignored. Dalai lama used to rule as a god king and treat 95% of tibetians as slaves nope totally ignored. Tibetians have more rights compared to Han chinese and in fact use that to bully han chinese even in the capital of beijing. That's also ignored.

In fact it's china = communist = bad ok we have the moral high ground to tell off china.

 

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'India would have more influence than China in years to come'
Washington, Feb 20 (PTI)

Rebuking the Chinese leadership for losing touch with real socialism, the 74-year old Nobel peace Prize winner Dalai Lama said it is India which will have greater influence in the world than China.

India has "democracy, (is) transparent and has free information, open society and independent judiciary," which was not the case with China, he said, describing Manmohan Singh as a "saintly Prime Minister".

"So these are very much lacking in People's Republic of China, unfortunately. So the hardliner Communist leadership, they do not see the holistic picture in order to bring genuine, happy society," he noted.

The 74-year old Nobel peace Prize winner said in countries like the US and India, even Prime Ministers and Presidents were accountable to the judiciary.

In China, however, "you can't imagine... the leader should go to court. Court is Party's court. Army also Party's army. But name very beautiful: People's Army. People's government. People's Republic. But actually, no people, no public. Only officials. Only party member," he said.

Highly appreciative of Manmohan Singh, the Dalai Lama described him as a saintly prime minister.

"Sometimes I describe him as a saintly prime minister. (He is) very nice. His record (is) very clean. His face also looks like saint," the Dalai Lama said.

Criticising the Chinese leadership, he said the leaders do not care about Marxist socialism, but only capitalism, and think nothing but making money.

"Actually, today China's Communist Party is a Communist Party without a Communist ideology," he said.

wow the resident racist masquerading as a news reporter.

The dalai lama's words and opinions don't mean much especially since he is unable to rule over his own land.

How about interviewing the leaders of north eastern states in india where their land is controlled by indian govt?

How about interviewing the leader of the palestinans about israel? It's plain obvious by interviewing such people they definitely won't give an accurate account of the country's leadership.

Wow and such a glowing account of the indian PM's face "looking like a saint". Yes cos you know the more you look like a saint the more you actually become a saint.

 

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The way I look at it is politics. At the moment China is on the rise and it holds many many cards in its hands.

Many of the flash points in the world requires Chinese help - North Korea, Iran - to big big issues on White house agenda cannot move without Chinese nod. Afghanistan, Pakistan basically pulls the strings and as we know Pakistan is run by army and China backs their army to the hilt (joint armaments/fighter jets programs). Even in the global economy, if it werent for the Chinese stimulus and funding of US borrowings the world could have dipped into a depression. This is the new world order.

So how to find something to leverage on the Chinese something to poke them in the eye? The 2 T - Tibet and Taiwan. All countries recog Tibet as part of China and most do ot recog Taiwan as China.

 

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Good to know that the commies in China are protectors of human rights