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Crown Prince Li Hongyi criticizes PAP Govt, says he wants to make Sg much better, preparing to win himself votes?
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msg again? make sg great again?
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Hongyi Li
Director at Open Government Products,
GovTech Singapore
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A question I often get when I tell people what I do is “I thought Singapore already has great government. Isn’t it good enough?”.
MSF just released their review panel’s findings for the government’s handling of Megan Khung’s case. I would encourage everyone to read through the full report.
The thing that strikes me is how absolutely mundane the failures are. Handoff not done properly, no data sharing between agencies, just clunky processes that lead to us doing just a bit too little a bit too late.
As OGP officers I bet as you read through you can find at least half a dozen ways we could have done better with tools we already have.That is why I do this. I think it is unconscionable that your Grab orders are tracked down to the minute while a child abuse case gets dropped because someone got reassigned. I think it is insane that TikTok has a detailed profile of your every interest, but we didn’t share information of whole body bruising and caretakers being drug addicts.I know that Singapore has a lot of success, but that just makes these failures all the more unacceptable.
A place which spends billions on IT consultants every year should not have social workers underpaid and overworked to the point of failure.
We have the resources and ability now to solve problems we previously thought unsolvable and help people whose pain seemed inevitable.
Our prosperity is not a permission to rest, it is a responsibility to act.I know this is hard. You will make more money selling crypto systems.
You will have less stress settling into the bureaucracy. If you choose those paths no one will blame you. But if you ever wonder why the work we do is worth doing, read through the report and ask yourself: Does this sound like a government that is good enough?
https://lnkd.in/gdhWjQ_G
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I wrote this note to the team to remind us of our mission.
As government officers it’s very tempting to fall to prideful complacency or cynical apathy, but we have to keep trying to do better.
Because there are very real problems to solve and very real people depending on us to solve them.
I’m glad MSF followed through with investigating and releasing the report. It’s the first step to us doing better.
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Lets start with making MSF great again
https://www.msf.gov.sg/docs/default...strengthen-the-child-protection-ecosystem.pdf
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doubt it even after 6.9 years. msf will languish in obscurity and least priority in the sinkie agenda. after 6.9 months this sorry episode will be forgotten, and msf will be back to its incompetence and irrelevance yet again… due to it being an unwanted orphan (no pun intended) with no ministar wanting to touch it for fear of being a promotionless role, and if anybody is thrown this trash it will land on a forgotten gov scholar with sextremely low cfp and no hope of getting any real funding.Lets start with making MSF great again
https://www.msf.gov.sg/docs/default...strengthen-the-child-protection-ecosystem.pdf
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Fully Agree , they tried to give it a big shake up in the past by putting KC and then TCJ there but gave up eventually ,
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Here’s a complete timeline of the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) in Singapore — tracing its evolution since independence, including its predecessor names and key ministers who helmed the ministry through the decades.
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1. Department of Social Welfare (1946 – 1963)
Status: Government department (not a full ministry yet)
Origin: Formed in June 1946 under the colonial government after WWII.
Main functions: Relief, welfare homes, child protection, community centres, aid to the poor.
Notable heads: Directors rather than ministers (e.g. Mr. F. A. C. Oehlers in early years).
Transition: Became part of the new Ministry of Social Affairs in 1963 when Singapore achieved self-government and later independence.
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2. Ministry of Social Affairs (1963 – 1985)
Formed: 1963, as Singapore moved toward full internal self-government.
Focus: Social welfare, cooperatives, community centres, rehabilitation, family services.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
1963 – 1977 Othman Wok One of Singapore’s pioneer Malay ministers; focused on racial harmony, welfare services, and community centres.
1977 – 1981 E. W. Barker Concurrently held other portfolios; transitional period of restructuring.
1981 – 1985 Ahmad Mattar Strengthened family development and community-building programmes.
Transition: In 1985, the ministry was renamed to reflect a broader community role.
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3. Ministry of Community Development (MCD) (1985 – 2004)
Formed: 2 January 1985
Purpose: Promote community bonding, volunteerism, family and social services, youth work.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
1985 – 1991 Ahmad Mattar Continued from previous ministry; emphasised “shared values” and family cohesion.
1991 – 1997 Abdullah Tarmugi Introduced family policy frameworks and enhanced social services.
1997 – 2004 Abdullah Tarmugi (continued) oversaw transition toward youth and sports inclusion.
Transition: Youth and sports portfolios were merged in 2004 to create MCYS.
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4. Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS) (2004 – 2012)
Formed: 1 September 2004
Focus: Community bonding, family development, youth programmes, sports promotion.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
2004 – 2008 Dr Vivian Balakrishnan Strengthened family policy, introduced ComCare, enhanced sports and youth engagement.
2008 – 2011 Dr Vivian Balakrishnan Continued leadership; introduced early childhood development policies.
2011 – 2012 Chan Chun Sing Oversaw restructuring that led to the formation of MSF and MCCY.
Transition: In November 2012, MCYS was reorganised — youth and sports went to MCCY, family and social services went to the new MSF.
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5. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) (2012 – Present)
Formed: 1 November 2012
Mandate: Family policy, social safety nets (ComCare, SSAs), early childhood, disability, eldercare, protection of the vulnerable.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
2012 – 2015 Chan Chun Sing Founding minister of MSF; established the Social Service Office (SSO) network.
2015 – 2020 Tan Chuan-Jin Focused on inclusive policies, foster care, and support for low-income families.
2020 – 2022 Desmond Lee Expanded early childhood and social service capacity during COVID-19.
2022 – Present Masagos Zulkifli Current minister; emphasises family resilience, child protection, and social mobility.
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Summary Table of Ministry Evolution
Period Ministry Name Key Ministers
1946 – 1963 Dept. of Social Welfare (Directors, no minister)
1963 – 1985 Ministry of Social Affairs Othman Wok, E. W. Barker, Ahmad Mattar
1985 – 2004 Ministry of Community Development Ahmad Mattar, Abdullah Tarmugi
2004 – 2012 Ministry of Community Development, Youth & Sports Vivian Balakrishnan, Chan Chun Sing
2012 – Present Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) Chan Chun Sing, Tan Chuan-Jin, Desmond Lee, Masagos Zulkifli
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Here’s a complete timeline of the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) in Singapore — tracing its evolution since independence, including its predecessor names and key ministers who helmed the ministry through the decades.
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1. Department of Social Welfare (1946 – 1963)
Status: Government department (not a full ministry yet)
Origin: Formed in June 1946 under the colonial government after WWII.
Main functions: Relief, welfare homes, child protection, community centres, aid to the poor.
Notable heads: Directors rather than ministers (e.g. Mr. F. A. C. Oehlers in early years).
Transition: Became part of the new Ministry of Social Affairs in 1963 when Singapore achieved self-government and later independence.
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2. Ministry of Social Affairs (1963 – 1985)
Formed: 1963, as Singapore moved toward full internal self-government.
Focus: Social welfare, cooperatives, community centres, rehabilitation, family services.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
1963 – 1977 Othman Wok One of Singapore’s pioneer Malay ministers; focused on racial harmony, welfare services, and community centres.
1977 – 1981 E. W. Barker Concurrently held other portfolios; transitional period of restructuring.
1981 – 1985 Ahmad Mattar Strengthened family development and community-building programmes.
Transition: In 1985, the ministry was renamed to reflect a broader community role.
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3. Ministry of Community Development (MCD) (1985 – 2004)
Formed: 2 January 1985
Purpose: Promote community bonding, volunteerism, family and social services, youth work.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
1985 – 1991 Ahmad Mattar Continued from previous ministry; emphasised “shared values” and family cohesion.
1991 – 1997 Abdullah Tarmugi Introduced family policy frameworks and enhanced social services.
1997 – 2004 Abdullah Tarmugi (continued) oversaw transition toward youth and sports inclusion.
Transition: Youth and sports portfolios were merged in 2004 to create MCYS.
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4. Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS) (2004 – 2012)Formed: 1 September 2004
Focus: Community bonding, family development, youth programmes, sports promotion.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
2004 – 2008 Dr Vivian Balakrishnan Strengthened family policy, introduced ComCare, enhanced sports and youth engagement.
2008 – 2011 Dr Vivian Balakrishnan Continued leadership; introduced early childhood development policies.
2011 – 2012 Chan Chun Sing Oversaw restructuring that led to the formation of MSF and MCCY.
Transition: In November 2012, MCYS was reorganised — youth and sports went to MCCY, family and social services went to the new MSF.
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5. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) (2012 – Present)
Formed: 1 November 2012
Mandate: Family policy, social safety nets (ComCare, SSAs), early childhood, disability, eldercare, protection of the vulnerable.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
2012 – 2015 Chan Chun Sing Founding minister of MSF; established the Social Service Office (SSO) network.
2015 – 2020 Tan Chuan-Jin Focused on inclusive policies, foster care, and support for low-income families.
2020 – 2022 Desmond Lee Expanded early childhood and social service capacity during COVID-19.
2022 – Present Masagos Zulkifli Current minister; emphasises family resilience, child protection, and social mobility.
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Summary Table of Ministry Evolution
Period Ministry Name Key Ministers
1946 – 1963 Dept. of Social Welfare (Directors, no minister)
1963 – 1985 Ministry of Social Affairs Othman Wok, E. W. Barker, Ahmad Mattar
1985 – 2004 Ministry of Community Development Ahmad Mattar, Abdullah Tarmugi
2004 – 2012 Ministry of Community Development, Youth & Sports Vivian Balakrishnan, Chan Chun Sing
2012 – Present Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) Chan Chun Sing, Tan Chuan-Jin, Desmond Lee, Masagos Zulkifli
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Looks like a Final year project outlineLets start with making MSF great again
https://www.msf.gov.sg/docs/default...strengthen-the-child-protection-ecosystem.pdf
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notice all the token “ministars” that helmed it. they keep changing names and orgs hoping superficial changes will bring about results but we all know it’s not a result nor kpi-oriented ministry. it’s a black hole that mops up all the gutter oil that no fine diner wants to see in a posh restaurant, much like the maids’ shared shithole (a.k.a. toilet in utility room) in a $69m gcb - a minor necessity in a household in order for maids not to soil the bedroom and guest toilets.Fully agreed , they tried to give it a shake
in the past by putting KC there but
gave up eventually ,
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Here’s a complete timeline of the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) in Singapore — tracing its evolution since independence, including its predecessor names and key ministers who helmed the ministry through the decades.
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1. Department of Social Welfare (1946 – 1963)
Status: Government department (not a full ministry yet)
Origin: Formed in June 1946 under the colonial government after WWII.
Main functions: Relief, welfare homes, child protection, community centres, aid to the poor.
Notable heads: Directors rather than ministers (e.g. Mr. F. A. C. Oehlers in early years).
Transition: Became part of the new Ministry of Social Affairs in 1963 when Singapore achieved self-government and later independence.
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2. Ministry of Social Affairs (1963 – 1985)
Formed: 1963, as Singapore moved toward full internal self-government.
Focus: Social welfare, cooperatives, community centres, rehabilitation, family services.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
1963 – 1977 Othman Wok One of Singapore’s pioneer Malay ministers; focused on racial harmony, welfare services, and community centres.
1977 – 1981 E. W. Barker Concurrently held other portfolios; transitional period of restructuring.
1981 – 1985 Ahmad Mattar Strengthened family development and community-building programmes.
Transition: In 1985, the ministry was renamed to reflect a broader community role.
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3. Ministry of Community Development (MCD) (1985 – 2004)
Formed: 2 January 1985
Purpose: Promote community bonding, volunteerism, family and social services, youth work.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
1985 – 1991 Ahmad Mattar Continued from previous ministry; emphasised “shared values” and family cohesion.
1991 – 1997 Abdullah Tarmugi Introduced family policy frameworks and enhanced social services.
1997 – 2004 Abdullah Tarmugi (continued) oversaw transition toward youth and sports inclusion.
Transition: Youth and sports portfolios were merged in 2004 to create MCYS.
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Formed: 1 September 2004
Focus: Community bonding, family development, youth programmes, sports promotion.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
2004 – 2008 Dr Vivian Balakrishnan Strengthened family policy, introduced ComCare, enhanced sports and youth engagement.
2008 – 2011 Dr Vivian Balakrishnan Continued leadership; introduced early childhood development policies.
2011 – 2012 Chan Chun Sing Oversaw restructuring that led to the formation of MSF and MCCY.
Transition: In November 2012, MCYS was reorganised — youth and sports went to MCCY, family and social services went to the new MSF.
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5. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) (2012 – Present)
Formed: 1 November 2012
Mandate: Family policy, social safety nets (ComCare, SSAs), early childhood, disability, eldercare, protection of the vulnerable.
Key Ministers:
Period Minister Notes
2012 – 2015 Chan Chun Sing Founding minister of MSF; established the Social Service Office (SSO) network.
2015 – 2020 Tan Chuan-Jin Focused on inclusive policies, foster care, and support for low-income families.
2020 – 2022 Desmond Lee Expanded early childhood and social service capacity during COVID-19.
2022 – Present Masagos Zulkifli Current minister; emphasises family resilience, child protection, and social mobility.
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Summary Table of Ministry Evolution
Period Ministry Name Key Ministers
1946 – 1963 Dept. of Social Welfare (Directors, no minister)
1963 – 1985 Ministry of Social Affairs Othman Wok, E. W. Barker, Ahmad Mattar
1985 – 2004 Ministry of Community Development Ahmad Mattar, Abdullah Tarmugi
2004 – 2012 Ministry of Community Development, Youth & Sports Vivian Balakrishnan, Chan Chun Sing
2012 – Present Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) Chan Chun Sing, Tan Chuan-Jin, Desmond Lee, Masagos Zulkifli
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Singapore belongs to the Lee family. No surprise if he continues the legacy
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MSF works closely with FSCs which are another messy battle field of their own
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it’s like pigs in a sty fighting over swill.
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MSF is a "spending " ministry ...
Below is a reasoned ranking of Singapore’s ministries by the scale of monies they collect or manage, based on their statutory boards, duties, and financial flows — from highest to lowest (descending order):
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Ranking of Singapore Ministries by Revenue Collections
Rank Ministry Main Sources of Collection / Revenue Remarks
Ministry of Finance (MOF) All tax revenues via IRAS — income tax, GST, corporate tax, property tax, stamp duties, customs & excise (via Singapore Customs). The central revenue ministry; IRAS alone collects >S$80–100 billion annually.
Ministry of Transport (MOT) Land Transport Authority (LTA) collects COE premiums, road tax, ERP tolls, vehicle registration fees, parking charges (via HDB/URA linkages). COE and ERP generate billions yearly; one of Singapore’s largest non-tax revenue sources.
Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) Via Energy Market Authority (EMA), Enterprise Singapore, and licensing/levies on utilities, energy, manufacturing, and tourism-related duties. Includes statutory board revenues from economic regulation, licensing, and industrial development.
Ministry of National Development (MND) Through HDB (public housing sales, land leases), URA (development charges, land sales), and NParks fees. HDB/URA handle multi-billion land and housing receipts; large but mostly non-recurrent.
Ministry of Manpower (MOM) Foreign worker levies, work permit fees, skills development levy, and CPF regulatory inflows (though CPF Board funds aren’t state revenue). Regular inflow of levies and fees tied to manpower policies.
Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) Nominal collections (camp canteen leases, minor administrative fees); but largest spender, not collector. Included for context; large budget but minimal revenue collection.
Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) ICA and Police licensing fees, passport/ID renewals, fines, levies, auxiliary police licensing, gambling duties (Casino Regulatory Authority). Considerable non-tax revenue from fines and licences, but smaller than MOT/MOM.
Ministry of Health (MOH) Hospital and polyclinic fees (through clusters), licensing of medical services, levies (e.g. tobacco control). Collections mostly channelled back to healthcare operators.
Ministry of Education (MOE) School fees (international students), institute fees, licensing of private schools (Committee for Private Education). Generally low relative to tax revenues; most funding comes from government, not collections.
10. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) Minimal revenue — licence fees for childcare operators, adoption, social service agency registration. Primarily a spending ministry.
1 Ministry of Sustainability and the Environment (MSE) NEA and PUB collect fees (water tariffs, waste disposal fees, hawker stall licences). PUB’s water tariff and NEA’s waste management fees are significant but not as large as tax or COE revenue.
1 Ministry of Law (MinLaw) IPOS, Registry of Moneylenders, Public Trustee Office, and Legal Aid Bureau fees. Mostly regulatory and administrative collections.
1 Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI) IMDA licensing fees, broadcasting & telecom spectrum auctions. Revenue peaks occur during spectrum sales.
1 Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY) Licences (sports, charities, gaming), National Arts Council event revenues. Minimal, mostly cultural or charity-related.
1 Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) Passport, authentication, and visa fees (small). Low and irregular revenue flow.
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Summary:
> Top Revenue Collectors:
Ministry of Finance (MOF – IRAS, Customs)
Ministry of Transport (MOT – LTA/COE/ERP)
Ministry of Trade & Industry (MTI – licensing, regulation)
Ministry of National Development (MND – land sales/HDB)
Ministry of Manpower (MOM – foreign worker levies)
After those five, all others collect comparatively small administrative or regulatory fees rather than core state revenue.
Below is a reasoned ranking of Singapore’s ministries by the scale of monies they collect or manage, based on their statutory boards, duties, and financial flows — from highest to lowest (descending order):
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Ranking of Singapore Ministries by Revenue Collections
Rank Ministry Main Sources of Collection / Revenue Remarks
Ministry of Finance (MOF) All tax revenues via IRAS — income tax, GST, corporate tax, property tax, stamp duties, customs & excise (via Singapore Customs). The central revenue ministry; IRAS alone collects >S$80–100 billion annually. Ministry of Transport (MOT) Land Transport Authority (LTA) collects COE premiums, road tax, ERP tolls, vehicle registration fees, parking charges (via HDB/URA linkages). COE and ERP generate billions yearly; one of Singapore’s largest non-tax revenue sources. Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) Via Energy Market Authority (EMA), Enterprise Singapore, and licensing/levies on utilities, energy, manufacturing, and tourism-related duties. Includes statutory board revenues from economic regulation, licensing, and industrial development. Ministry of National Development (MND) Through HDB (public housing sales, land leases), URA (development charges, land sales), and NParks fees. HDB/URA handle multi-billion land and housing receipts; large but mostly non-recurrent. Ministry of Manpower (MOM) Foreign worker levies, work permit fees, skills development levy, and CPF regulatory inflows (though CPF Board funds aren’t state revenue). Regular inflow of levies and fees tied to manpower policies. Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) Nominal collections (camp canteen leases, minor administrative fees); but largest spender, not collector. Included for context; large budget but minimal revenue collection. Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) ICA and Police licensing fees, passport/ID renewals, fines, levies, auxiliary police licensing, gambling duties (Casino Regulatory Authority). Considerable non-tax revenue from fines and licences, but smaller than MOT/MOM. Ministry of Health (MOH) Hospital and polyclinic fees (through clusters), licensing of medical services, levies (e.g. tobacco control). Collections mostly channelled back to healthcare operators. Ministry of Education (MOE) School fees (international students), institute fees, licensing of private schools (Committee for Private Education). Generally low relative to tax revenues; most funding comes from government, not collections. 10. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) Minimal revenue — licence fees for childcare operators, adoption, social service agency registration. Primarily a spending ministry.
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Ministry of Sustainability and the Environment (MSE) NEA and PUB collect fees (water tariffs, waste disposal fees, hawker stall licences). PUB’s water tariff and NEA’s waste management fees are significant but not as large as tax or COE revenue. 1
Ministry of Law (MinLaw) IPOS, Registry of Moneylenders, Public Trustee Office, and Legal Aid Bureau fees. Mostly regulatory and administrative collections. 1
Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI) IMDA licensing fees, broadcasting & telecom spectrum auctions. Revenue peaks occur during spectrum sales. 1
Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY) Licences (sports, charities, gaming), National Arts Council event revenues. Minimal, mostly cultural or charity-related. 1
Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) Passport, authentication, and visa fees (small). Low and irregular revenue flow. ---
Summary:
> Top Revenue Collectors:
Ministry of Finance (MOF – IRAS, Customs) Ministry of Transport (MOT – LTA/COE/ERP) Ministry of Trade & Industry (MTI – licensing, regulation) Ministry of National Development (MND – land sales/HDB) Ministry of Manpower (MOM – foreign worker levies)After those five, all others collect comparatively small administrative or regulatory fees rather than core state revenue.
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Salute Minister Masagos for ordering the Report .
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