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Covid-19 : This is why Taiwan is THE Gold Standard

glockman

Old Fart
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They produce their own masks, each citizen is given three masks a week. And if you need to buy more, just place an order online with app that shows availability of masks in the many stores in your city. Three masks costs only about S$1.50. Taiwan population 23.8 mil.

No wonder pap wants to be able to manufacture masks locally from here on. Instead of bull-shitting sinkies about wearing masks only when you're sick, echoing the bs perpetuated by WHO and US CDC. This bs has really hurt the world. Taiwan is The Gold Standard!

As at 7 April 2020
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Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
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Are you serious??? You guys obviously either have blinkers on or are being selectively blind.

You want Singapore to implement this sort of gold standard???

Coronavirus: Under surveillance and confined at home in Taiwan


24 March 2020


Milo Hsieh is an American University student living in Taiwan under quarantine. The BBC asked him to write this article after one of his tweets about having his movements tracked by a satellite-based system was widely shared.

I did not expect two police officers to come knocking at my door at 08:15 when I was still asleep in my bed on Sunday morning.

My phone briefly ran out of battery at 07:30, and in less than an hour, four different local administrative units had called. A patrol was dispatched to check my whereabouts. A text was sent notifying that the government had lost track of me, and warned me of potential arrest if I had broken quarantine.

I returned to Taiwan last Thursday to experience the island's zero-risk take on coronavirus.

Since I was coming back from Europe, I am subjected to a mandatory 14 days home quarantine. Before I had my passport checked, I had to pass through a booth set up by the Ministry of Health and Welfare. I filled out a document detailing places I had visited in the last fortnight, my phone number, landline and address. They notified me that my phone would be "satellite-tracked" for enforcement.

The level of precaution taken in Taiwan is nothing like what I saw in Europe.


During the initial phase of lockdown in Belgium, which I had to leave after my study programme was cancelled, people still went out and lined up at fast food kiosks. Even as an outbreak was happening in northern Italy, I saw during my visit to London in the first weekend of March, that people were still going to pubs.

Here, I am not allowed to step outside the apartment. I was not allowed to take public transport on my way back, and had to take special "quarantine taxis." My entire family has to quarantine with me for two weeks. This includes Biscuit, our dog.

How does Taiwan's system work?

The island refers to its phone-tracking system as being an "electronic fence".

Rather than ask users to download a special app or wear a location-transmitting wristband - as has been the case in some East Asian countries - it uses existing phone signals to triangulate the owner's locations.

To ensure users comply, an alert is sent to the authorities if the handset is turned off for more than 15 minutes. More than 6,000 people subjected to home quarantine are simultaneously tracked this way.

And to check that the phone has not simply been left behind, officials phone users up to twice a day to check they have their mobile to hand, and to ask about their health.


Recently, many Taiwanese, especially students, have returned to the island, as their schools overseas have closed and life around the world has ground to a halt. Some see the mandatory quarantine they have to go through as a necessary measure.

Frank Tseng is among them. He is one of my friends at American University, and he recently returned from Washington DC.

Arrivals to Taiwan have to sign a pledge saying they will stay behind closed doors for a fortnight and keep a record of their temperature
"I feel like even though it's a pain for the citizens who are coming back, I understand that it's a necessary process many of us have to take to go home," he told me.

But some see the enforcement mechanism as problematic.

Paul Huang, a local freelance journalist who was working abroad, decided to not go back to Taiwan because of surveillance fears.

"The government openly stated your phone will be digitally tracked to enforce quarantine - in the same way the authority usually tracks suspected criminals," he explained.

"Except this time they don't have or need a court-issued warrant to spy on your phone.

"You are being suspected of a crime by virtue of having travelled overseas."
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
Sinkies complain that the government is a dictatorship but the current measures show anything but. In Singapore an app to track you is not mandatory. It is optional.

Sinkies can still go out for fresh air and take their dog for a walk. In Taiwan you're stuck in pigeon hole. You think that is easy? Try not leaving your room more than 3 days and then tell me what it feels like.

If there is any place I'd rather be now it would be countries like Sweden and Singapore that have adopted a common sense approach to what is a relatively mild disease.

This is not the black plague, ebola, smallpox of polio where catching it could be death sentence. It's a cold virus that is no worse than seasonal flu and you want to surrender ALL your rights in one fell swoop on the infinitesimal chance that you might die if the Mars, Venus and Jupiter happen to be in alignment???/
 

glockman

Old Fart
Asset
Are you serious??? You guys obviously either have blinkers on or are being selectively blind.

You want Singapore to implement this sort of gold standard???

Coronavirus: Under surveillance and confined at home in Taiwan


24 March 2020


Milo Hsieh is an American University student living in Taiwan under quarantine. The BBC asked him to write this article after one of his tweets about having his movements tracked by a satellite-based system was widely shared.

I did not expect two police officers to come knocking at my door at 08:15 when I was still asleep in my bed on Sunday morning.

My phone briefly ran out of battery at 07:30, and in less than an hour, four different local administrative units had called. A patrol was dispatched to check my whereabouts. A text was sent notifying that the government had lost track of me, and warned me of potential arrest if I had broken quarantine.

I returned to Taiwan last Thursday to experience the island's zero-risk take on coronavirus.

Since I was coming back from Europe, I am subjected to a mandatory 14 days home quarantine. Before I had my passport checked, I had to pass through a booth set up by the Ministry of Health and Welfare. I filled out a document detailing places I had visited in the last fortnight, my phone number, landline and address. They notified me that my phone would be "satellite-tracked" for enforcement.

The level of precaution taken in Taiwan is nothing like what I saw in Europe.


During the initial phase of lockdown in Belgium, which I had to leave after my study programme was cancelled, people still went out and lined up at fast food kiosks. Even as an outbreak was happening in northern Italy, I saw during my visit to London in the first weekend of March, that people were still going to pubs.

Here, I am not allowed to step outside the apartment. I was not allowed to take public transport on my way back, and had to take special "quarantine taxis." My entire family has to quarantine with me for two weeks. This includes Biscuit, our dog.

How does Taiwan's system work?

The island refers to its phone-tracking system as being an "electronic fence".

Rather than ask users to download a special app or wear a location-transmitting wristband - as has been the case in some East Asian countries - it uses existing phone signals to triangulate the owner's locations.

To ensure users comply, an alert is sent to the authorities if the handset is turned off for more than 15 minutes. More than 6,000 people subjected to home quarantine are simultaneously tracked this way.

And to check that the phone has not simply been left behind, officials phone users up to twice a day to check they have their mobile to hand, and to ask about their health.


Recently, many Taiwanese, especially students, have returned to the island, as their schools overseas have closed and life around the world has ground to a halt. Some see the mandatory quarantine they have to go through as a necessary measure.

Frank Tseng is among them. He is one of my friends at American University, and he recently returned from Washington DC.

Arrivals to Taiwan have to sign a pledge saying they will stay behind closed doors for a fortnight and keep a record of their temperature
"I feel like even though it's a pain for the citizens who are coming back, I understand that it's a necessary process many of us have to take to go home," he told me.

But some see the enforcement mechanism as problematic.

Paul Huang, a local freelance journalist who was working abroad, decided to not go back to Taiwan because of surveillance fears.

"The government openly stated your phone will be digitally tracked to enforce quarantine - in the same way the authority usually tracks suspected criminals," he explained.

"Except this time they don't have or need a court-issued warrant to spy on your phone.

"You are being suspected of a crime by virtue of having travelled overseas."
Sinkieland is only slowly starting to get serious with management/containment of this virus. They are learning from Taiwan. We should not allow those useless fucks to pay themselves such indecent salaries when they merely emulate successful foreign governments' policies. Taiwan is THE gold standard. No question about it!
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
Sinkieland is only slowly starting to get serious with management/containment of this virus. They are learning from Taiwan. We should not allow those useless fucks to pay themselves such indecent salaries when they merely emulate successful foreign governments' policies. Taiwan is THE gold standard. No question about it!


But my point is more fundamental. Why get so serious with a virus that is not serious? We don't implement all this social distancing rubbish with influenza which can be just as deadly.

H1N1 killed 26 Singaporeans in 2009. Covid-19 has only killed six and most were half dead to begin with.
 

glockman

Old Fart
Asset
But my point is more fundamental. Why get so serious with a virus that is not serious? We don't implement all this social distancing rubbish with influenza which can be just as deadly.

H1N1 killed 26 Singaporeans in 2009. Covid-19 has only killed six and most were half dead to begin with.
Glass is half full, half empty...... it's all a matter of perspective. Right? Your view was shared by some, until the death toll started rising and made them converts to my view. Don't underestimate covid-19, especially in the absence of natural immunity or a vaccine. This shit storm is not over yet, so six deaths is not the final tally.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
Glass is half full, half empty...... it's all a matter of perspective. Right? Your view was shared by some, until the death toll started rising and made them converts to my view. Don't underestimate covid-19, especially in the absence of natural immunity or a vaccine. This shit storm is not over yet, so six deaths is not the final tally.

Half full vs half empty is how you view a figure of 50% not 0.1%.
 

batman1

Alfrescian
Loyal
Not even consolation. Like what @eatshitndie mentioned, sinkieland is lead standard!

Yes,not even lead standard but actually bumbling standard. But just to give some face to the highest paid leaders in the World.IF NOT,How to justify their highest paid salaries in the World ? The Coronavirus exposed their weaknesses and incompetencies.We thought they are supermen but actually they are only normal human beings
like u and me.So don't bullshit to us about your extra-ordinary talents over-exaggerated by the MSM.
 
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