communist is making china strong???

[cheowyonglee]

if you think communist china is good becos of what you see china now prosperous? think hard....

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[Char_Azn]

This joker obviously never use the democratic case study call India. India is the biggest and probably the most democratic country in the world. If democracy can prevent corruption they would be the least corrupt country in the world

 

[Dreamer1]

This joker obviously never use the democratic case study call India. India is the biggest and probably the most democratic country in the world. If democracy can prevent corruption they would be the least corrupt country in the world

Again the usUal bullshit fr yr hero.

How about Philippines?Uganda?Ghana?

they are so many more.

DEMOCRACY IS THE WORST SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT BUT IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WORKS.

 

[Char_Azn]

I'm not debating on whether democracy. I'm saying Democracy and Corruption have little to do with each other.

 

[Dreamer1]

I'm not debating on whether democracy. I'm saying Democracy and Corruption have little to do with each other.

Sorry
there are corruption,there are corruption

There are just two types of corruption

Illegal corruption(U go prison) and LEEgalised corruption(no prison)

 

[Char_Azn]

Let me repeat myself since U don't seem to get it. I am not debating on either one of the topic, Democracy nor Corruption. All I am doing is pointing out the fact that Corruption have little to do with the lack of democracy

 

[longbow]

Democracy only works when you have a strong middle class. Pretty much all 3rd world democracies are a farce. The poor are illiterate and they are too poor to dare to use their vote. The farmer in India, working on his landlord's farm will vote whatever his landlord tells him. Or he will vote whatever he is told for a bag of rice. That is why in India, Philippines, Thailand the poor remain just as poor and the people in power remain the same.

Case in point, in India, if there were real democracy, the 60% living on less than $2 a day would have voted out the politicians if their lives did not improve. But year after year the same politicians remain in power and their lot remained the same. In India we see the Nehru/Gandhi family controlling power. Phillipines you have same old Marcos, Aquino family pulling the political strings.

In a true democracy like the US, 2 years of bad results and you are out. Even in the US where there is a strong educated middle class the rich can sway Gov. In India what chance does the 70% poor have against the Tata family?

In a true democracy, every man is equal. yet in India you have the caste system which is against the whole concept of democracy.

I think India would have benefited from 30 years of communism. That would have erased the caste system and knocked the royal ruling class that the Gandhi and Tatas off their pedestals. Country has great potential but money is being syphoned off by the rich and the poor are still crapping on the street corners like animals. Why even keep a government when you need someone like Bill Gates to come in and help you eradicate polio. Damn malu - come on, if you can spend billions on Commonwealth at the very least put aside a billion or two to eradicate all these primitive diseases.

 

[Dreamer1]

Democracy only works when you have a strong middle class. Pretty much all 3rd world democracies are a farce. The poor are illiterate and they are too poor to dare to use their vote. The farmer in India, working on his landlord's farm will vote whatever his landlord tells him. Or he will vote whatever he is told for a bag of rice. That is why in India, Philippines, Thailand the poor remain just as poor and the people in power remain the same.

Case in point, in India, if there were real democracy, the 60% living on less than $2 a day would have voted out the politicians if their lives did not improve. But year after year the same politicians remain in power and their lot remained the same. In India we see the Nehru/Gandhi family controlling power. Phillipines you have same old Marcos, Aquino family pulling the political strings.

In a true democracy like the US, 2 years of bad results and you are out. Even in the US where there is a strong educated middle class the rich can sway Gov. In India what chance does the 70% poor have against the Tata family?

In a true democracy, every man is equal. yet in India you have the caste system which is against the whole concept of democracy.

I think India would have benefited from 30 years of communism. That would have erased the caste system and knocked the royal ruling class that the Gandhi and Tatas off their pedestals. Country has great potential but money is being syphoned off by the rich and the poor are still crapping on the street corners like animals. Why even keep a government when you need someone like Bill Gates to come in and help you eradicate polio. Damn malu - come on, if you can spend billions on Commonwealth at the very least put aside a billion or two to eradicate all these primitive diseases.

India could have benefited fr communism?or dictatorship if we use PAP aka LKY 's self serve theory.

I do not think so,actually I agree with LKY that that Chairman Deng did take a lesson from him,and that would be impossible before the collapse of USSR.

 

[Char_Azn]

Democracy only works when you have a strong middle class. Pretty much all 3rd world democracies are a farce. The poor are illiterate and they are too poor to dare to use their vote. The farmer in India, working on his landlord's farm will vote whatever his landlord tells him. Or he will vote whatever he is told for a bag of rice. That is why in India, Philippines, Thailand the poor remain just as poor and the people in power remain the same.

Case in point, in India, if there were real democracy, the 60% living on less than $2 a day would have voted out the politicians if their lives did not improve. But year after year the same politicians remain in power and their lot remained the same. In India we see the Nehru/Gandhi family controlling power. Phillipines you have same old Marcos, Aquino family pulling the political strings.

In a true democracy like the US, 2 years of bad results and you are out. Even in the US where there is a strong educated middle class the rich can sway Gov. In India what chance does the 70% poor have against the Tata family?

In a true democracy, every man is equal. yet in India you have the caste system which is against the whole concept of democracy.

I think India would have benefited from 30 years of communism. That would have erased the caste system and knocked the royal ruling class that the Gandhi and Tatas off their pedestals. Country has great potential but money is being syphoned off by the rich and the poor are still crapping on the street corners like animals. Why even keep a government when you need someone like Bill Gates to come in and help you eradicate polio. Damn malu - come on, if you can spend billions on Commonwealth at the very least put aside a billion or two to eradicate all these primitive diseases.

You don't seem to understand Indian mentality and how India works. Unlike the rest of the world where most pple would choose a better item, Indians prefer to choose a more trusted item. For example, if you are planning to purchase a laptop, most of us will go around choosing the best for the cheapest price. However the Indians will almost always go for the brand that they trust the most. It is also the reason why the rich in India are far wealthier then the pple in China. The number of wealthy pple in China is a lot more then India but the wealthy in India is generally better off then their Chinese counterpart. The same is true for Indian politicians. If you manage to gain their trust, it is more then likely that you will get re-elected which is why the Gandhi family have been in power for so long. It helps that they seldom if ever get involve in major corruption scandal. However this is limited to just one or 2 powerful families, the local MPs change constantly with each election. Also the corruption scandal of local politicians gets exposed every single day. It's amazing how they still have any MPs left in parliament at the end of the term

You do not seem to understand the caste system in India. Frankly speaking I am still trying to understand it myself however the reason why the caste system has not been abolished is for a more practical reason. The caste system is not about the higher caste in the north and the poorer caste in the south like what most pple think. India was never a truly unified country before the British took over hence having a caste system between North and South is not possible. The Caste system is very much restricted between the local communities and a particular caste are more or less unique to the region. Men and women of different caste are not allowed to married one another similarly becoz the caste is unique to that region, they are usually not allowed to marry others from outside the region. The reason why the caste system is still in place is actually to help the lower caste. The schools and government sector have a number of slots allocated to each caste. The lower caste are usually given more slots in their attempt to help elevate the social and economical status of the lower caste which according to the Indian government anyway, is working. BTW the caste system is very complex, I have no idea how to tell one caste from another but apparently the Indians can identify your caste by simply finding out your name or where you are from.

The Tata company have a big reputation in India(they own the telco, have the most popular cars and even sell mineral water there) and btw just not so long ago, they had to cut their plans to build a factory because of protest from the local residents. And unlike what you think, the poor person in India can cause major problems for the rich. For example, the Indian government/major cooperation wants to build a highway and some joker living on that stretch of road refuse to move, they can simply sue the government/major cooperation and drag the thing out for years. Cost is not a problem. The poor can usually easily find someone to fight the case for you for free. This is also the reason why nothing seems to get done in India

And don't even get me started on their opposition party members. If you think the ones in the US and Taiwan are bad, wait till you see those from India. They will oppose for the sake of it to make sure the government is not able to do anything and then accuse them of incompetence. Also why they do not get anything done, if 1 joker comes up to oppose something, which always happens they will debate the issue forever

 

[Dreamer1]

"For example, if you are planning to purchase a laptop, most of us will go around choosing the best for the cheapest price. However the Indians will almost always go for the brand that they trust the most. "

Excellent point for marketing people.

 

[Dreamer1]

http://www.cringely.com/tag/india/

<India has only those two things:
India has only those two things:
1) a real Baby Boomer class, and;
2) a functional diaspora

Nothing else about India works at all — nothing. India is corrupt and divided. While India has a commercial tradition it isn’t an especially functional one. Fractionalism and factionalism, whether economic, social, or religious, will keep India from ever truly pulling together. But that doesn’t matter because my two original points are enough.>

 

[limpeh2]

if you think communist china is good becos of what you see china now prosperous? think hard....

Oh give it up already lah you fucking diewanese shitbag. Even if the prc is a democracy, you'll still find fault with it becoz diewan will be returned to prc and nobody gives a fuck about a land full of ugly conniving, violent cunts of both sexes. :oIo:

 

[Zombie]

All I am doing is pointing out the fact that Corruption have little to do with the lack of democracy

democracy in some asian places is to pay $$$ to the village head, and he brings you lorries full of voters to vote for you... free to trade, free to vote... so democratic

 

[Zombie]

I think India would have benefited from 30 years of communism......

very interesting.. it does make sense..

 

[Cruxx]

if you think communist china is good becos of what you see china now prosperous? think hard....

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Care to explain what communism is?

 

[Cruxx]

Why Sinkie sheep think democracy is the opposite of communism? Why are Sinkie sheep so ignorant? :(

 

[cheowyonglee]

the real china is ROC in Taiwan!!! Communist China is fake China!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

 

[limpeh2]

I think India would have benefited from 30 years of communism.

I think kelingland would've benefited from a plague that wipes out 90% of its population.

C'mon, it's fucking filthy shithole of suffering that deserves to be eradicated.

the real china is ROC in Taiwan!!! Communist China is fake China!!!

Not according to the world.
So please fuck back off to some diewanese forum, you dumbfuck. Nobody here wants to see or hear about your fucking japenis-loving cuntry or cuntrymen savages. Get it? :oIo: :oIo:

PS: diewanese dramas're still melodramatic, stinking horseshit productions. Not helped by their still-ugly-as-toads-despite-much-plastic-surgery actors & actresses. :oIo:

 

[Spock]

Democracy is white man's system. Non-whites do not know how to use the system properly or will end up distorting it into a form familiar to themselves.

Other than Japan, most of the people in Asian countries are not exposed to the system enough to even understand what democracy really means. Once in power, they will simply twist it to their benefit and the rest of the poor suckers remain clueless.

 

[limpeh2]

Democracy is white man's system. Non-whites do not know how to use the system properly or will end up distorting it into a form familiar to themselves.

Other than Japan, most of the people in Asian countries are not exposed to the system enough to even understand what democracy really means. Once in power, they will simply twist it to their benefit and the rest of the poor suckers remain clueless.

japan is not a democracy - it's every bit as corrupt & oppressive as those failed "democratic" asian countries. The power of the nihon chrysanthemum throne in japenis politics is always understated.

The fact is, running japan is easy - it comes down to the most nationalistic politician with the loudest voice declaring "nippon number 1", whilst remaining the most antagonistic & patronising towards her neighbours.